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Oliver's 66 belvedere II partial resto

oliver
01-04-2011, 09:54 PM
Hey guys, started to tear into my 66 belvy for some 'freshening'. Bought it off the original owner out of his barn, its a black plate california car.

Here are some exterior pics i just took today. A little rough around the edges, but im leaving the paint the way it is, chips, dings, and all. Its going to be a driver.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6067.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6065.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6066.jpg

After i left it out in the rain for a month :eusa_naughty: i found the carpeting SOAKING with water, grass and mold was growing out of the carpet! I tore into the interior fearing the worse, but found 100% solid floor boards with only minor surface rust, there are no holes or thin spots at all.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6061.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6063.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6064.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6062.jpg

oliver
01-04-2011, 09:57 PM
Heres the trunk:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6060.jpg

Heres how the interior was before

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/PIC_0131.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/PIC_0135.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/PIC_0132.jpg

Little bit of rust in the rear right 1/4, only thru rust on the car.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/DSCF6068.jpg

I'll keep this thread updated, any questions or suggestions?

Meep-Meep
01-04-2011, 11:03 PM
Dude, that thing is cherry! Does it have the leaning tower of power? I see 3 on the tree. Here's what I would do if it were mine assuming the direction is to make a nice driver out of it with minimal $$

Check and clean all wiring connections, especially the bulkhead. All grounds, etc..

Reseal the front and rear glass and other known leak points.

Check/replace brakes and running gear. 11" drums and a dual MC conversion are an easy swap or you can go with late model discs. BJ's compatible with 11" drums will be required for the drum swap. My 66 Bel has 11" drums that I put on.

Probably needs lower BJ's or maybe a front end rebuild anyway.

Window regulators may need attention.

Cooling system.

For the rust spots you can just treat the area with rust converter and use an epoxy based filler or even glass reinforced bondo. It's not like you have major Swiss cheese going on. After the repair you MUST seal the other side with something or it will rust through again. I suggest the oily waxy goo from Eastwood. If you can see the back side of the repair then you can cover with undercoating but chances are you can't so you will have to blast the goo into the crevices. Throw some white paint over the repair to keep it protected or just paint the car. It looks straight enough.

So are we neighbors? I'm in the SF Bay area too. What city are you in?

Meep-Meep
01-04-2011, 11:04 PM
Oh yeah, do not loose that gas cap!!!!! Or if you are going to loose it you can loose it on my car!

oliver
01-04-2011, 11:43 PM
Dude, that thing is cherry! Does it have the leaning tower of power? I see 3 on the tree. Here's what I would do if it were mine assuming the direction is to make a nice driver out of it with minimal $$

Check and clean all wiring connections, especially the bulkhead. All grounds, etc..

Reseal the front and rear glass and other known leak points.

Check/replace brakes and running gear. 11" drums and a dual MC conversion are an easy swap or you can go with late model discs. BJ's compatible with 11" drums will be required for the drum swap. My 66 Bel has 11" drums that I put on.

Probably needs lower BJ's or maybe a front end rebuild anyway.

Window regulators may need attention.

Cooling system.

For the rust spots you can just treat the area with rust converter and use an epoxy based filler or even glass reinforced bondo. It's not like you have major Swiss cheese going on. After the repair you MUST seal the other side with something or it will rust through again. I suggest the oily waxy goo from Eastwood. If you can see the back side of the repair then you can cover with undercoating but chances are you can't so you will have to blast the goo into the crevices. Throw some white paint over the repair to keep it protected or just paint the car. It looks straight enough.

So are we neighbors? I'm in the SF Bay area too. What city are you in?

Thanks so much, yes it is the slant 6 with a 3 on the tree.... i am going to be cutting the floor up for a 4 speed. heh, im getting a drivetrain out of a 70 challenger with the 340 in exchange for building a 512 ci big block stroker.

Front end is really tight, and i am going to dual circuit brakes. How tough is it to reseal the front and rear glass? The front window regulators are good, but the rear regulators are very stiff. I live in Orinda and my shop is in Vallejo.

Propwash
01-05-2011, 09:03 AM
Real nice car Oliver.....real nice.

joemac1j
01-05-2011, 11:57 AM
WOW!!!! It reminds me of my 66 HEMI Satellite Silver Buff. You are one lucky person. I used to live in the Bay Area, Fremont, San Rafael. See all my cars on HUB GARAGE under JOEMAC.
I am 71 and living in Alaska now.
LOL on the 66, you sound like a knowledgeable guy. I to have built my, and others, engines and transmissions for racing. Terry Eslinger and I used to own the A/SA record with a 64 Plym 426 Max Wedge. I see it is now for sale by a guy in Ill. $82,000. Out of my league. Have a good time.
JoeMac

moparstuart
01-05-2011, 12:37 PM
very clean NICE FIND

oliver
01-05-2011, 01:21 PM
Thanks alot guys, its my first older mopar and i think i got a real good deal on it. If i remember right i paid either 3200 or 3400 for it, not bad for being able to drive it at 65mph and not worry about it breaking down. Its a kind of rare car, but not desireable, so i don't mind cutting up the floor for the hump and putting a 340 into it. its going to be a real nice cruiser.

Meep-Meep
01-05-2011, 06:38 PM
Thanks so much, yes it is the slant 6 with a 3 on the tree.... i am going to be cutting the floor up for a 4 speed. heh, im getting a drivetrain out of a 70 challenger with the 340 in exchange for building a 512 ci big block stroker.

Front end is really tight, and i am going to dual circuit brakes. How tough is it to reseal the front and rear glass? The front window regulators are good, but the rear regulators are very stiff. I live in Orinda and my shop is in Vallejo.


We're not far apart. I'm in San Ramon. We might need to have a Belvedere convention!

The windshield has a rubber gasket but I'm not sure about the back. I know the 68-69 cars are glue in but the earlier ones might have a seal. Either way make sure you have a way to reseal the glass (as in gaskets in hand) then just cut them out with a razor knife. Also, I wouldn't even mess with reinstalling the old windshield unless it's perfect (rarely the case). Over time they get sand blasted from road debris and who wants to look through that? I will be doing the exact same thing to both my 66 Bels at some point.

Yeah, I'd say a 4 spd conversion is a no brainer decision! The 340 should be an improvement too.

JKLNHYDE
01-05-2011, 10:21 PM
Oh yeah, do not loose that gas cap!!!!! Or if you are going to loose it you can loose it on my car!
If you need a gas cap LMK, I have quite a few laying around.
Great car, looks to be very solid.

roadrunnerman
01-07-2011, 08:30 PM
that is a nice clean car

1badgtx
01-07-2011, 09:07 PM
Hey thats a clean one for sure!!!!
Petty Blue 67 GTX

68sportsatelliteragtop
01-09-2011, 07:09 AM
Don't forget to seal the windshield wiper pivots. The rubber umberella seals really work well. It is surprising how much water makes its way in through that area.

oliver
07-10-2011, 12:21 PM
Well well well... looks like i have my engine.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/PIC_0319.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/PIC_0315.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/PIC_0318.jpg

Here's what i tore it out of

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/belvedere/PIC_0313.jpg

This is gonna be a fun engine in the belvy.