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Rosette Rivet Rip-off Rant

moparman73
01-08-2011, 07:33 AM
Why do all the parts vendors seem to want to sell the rosette rivets ( the little flower-shaped rivets that hold the vin tag on) for such ridiculous prices?

Do us car guys have "rip me off" stamped on our foreheads?

First, before someone brings it up, no I don't want vin rivets for illegal purposes. Sometimes they are necessary, like when i had to change the plastic dash pad in my 1994 Ram truck. The vin tag is riveted to the plastic dash and had to be transferred. I ended up finding a way to reuse the original rivets after just about fainting about the prices vendors are offering these rivets for!

And before someone else posts the myth, no they are not a "controlled item" or illegal to possess.

So, I have been racking my brain to figure out why everyone wants $25-$45 a pair for these rivets.

They are not a low production item and thus expensive because of low sales volume--there are about 7 million new cars sold in the US every year and every car has two--thats 14 million rivets, not counting the ones used for restoration and repair!

The only conclusion I can come to is---they just want to rip us off!!

If any one knows of a reasonably priced source, please let me know, I would like to have some on hand for the next time.

Well, I feel slightly better now, even if the rip-offs continue.

1badgtx
01-08-2011, 10:01 AM
You have to remember that most people think if you own a MoPar you gota have money...They watch way too much t.v.Auctions like barrett jackson really does not help our cause either...Me i,m just a poor state worker that doesn,t want to drive a chevy or a model A..I wanted a Mopar for 30 years...Finally got it and it,s still a work in progress...
Petty Blue 67 GTX

5wndwcpe
01-08-2011, 02:19 PM
Supply and demand my friend. The Marcus Hook refinery (Sunoco) is right next to Philadelphia, yet gas in the city costs more than it does 100 miles away. Why ? Because people will pay it, that's why. It's the same with the rivits. If people weren't willing to shell out the $25 to $45 a pair for them, as they do now, the sellers would be forced to lower their prices. Of course, there's nothing stopping you, or me, or anyone else for that matter, from sourcing these things somewhere and selling them for $5.00 a pop. Wonder what the other guys would do. :bootyshake:

RGAZ
01-08-2011, 06:56 PM
Dang, I can get these rivits pretty easily though my work connections, maybe I should start selling them...for $10 each!

Just kidding.

I'll look into it and maybe I can get a big batch for cheap and sell them at a discount for FBBIO/FABO owners.

Stay tuned. No need to PM me.

Randy

moparman73
01-08-2011, 08:35 PM
RGAZ, if you can buy some reasonably, I'll buy some from you to keep in stock

detmatt1
01-09-2011, 05:15 AM
Thanks Randy, I'll be needing a couple of pairs of these soon.

moparman73
02-15-2011, 03:11 AM
Dang, I can get these rivits pretty easily though my work connections, maybe I should start selling them...for $10 each!

Just kidding.

I'll look into it and maybe I can get a big batch for cheap and sell them at a discount for FBBIO/FABO owners.

Stay tuned. No need to PM me.

Randy

Any success in finding some rivets at a reasonable price yet?

Joe Mopar
02-15-2011, 01:14 PM
Well here's a (stupid) question. Since the body shop drilled the rivets on my vin tag to remove it for body work I will be facing this shortly.

What are the ramifications if any to just using alum. pop rivets?

moparstuart
02-15-2011, 01:46 PM
Well here's a (stupid) question. Since the body shop drilled the rivets on my vin tag to remove it for body work I will be facing this shortly.

What are the ramifications if any to just using alum. pop rivets?

Not a good choice to use any ole rivet , vin tampering can taint and put a stigma on the car that will follow it everywhere it goes . Put it back correctly .

Propwash
02-15-2011, 02:29 PM
Not a good choice to use any ole rivet , vin tampering can taint and put a stigma on the car that will follow it everywhere it goes . Put it back correctly .

Yuppers........Seen that senario play out in motion before..

Wow Stu..............Staff member. They issue you a firearm yet..

Joe Mopar
02-15-2011, 03:23 PM
Not a good choice to use any ole rivet , vin tampering can taint and put a stigma on the car that will follow it everywhere it goes . Put it back correctly .

Well thanks for the heads up. Does anyone have a pic of what they look like, or a link?

thanks

moparstuart
02-15-2011, 03:58 PM
well thanks for the heads up. Does anyone have a pic of what they look like, or a link?

Thanks lol

moparstuart
02-15-2011, 03:59 PM
Yuppers........Seen that senario play out in motion before..

Wow Stu..............Staff member. They issue you a firearm yet..

thanks buddy , but no they dont trust barney fife with a gun LOL

Joe Mopar
02-15-2011, 04:35 PM
One more..................... These same rivets were also used on the early b-bodies? As in 64?

Thanks

Propwash
02-15-2011, 10:16 PM
thanks buddy , but no they dont trust barney fife with a gun LOL

Bwaa..ha..ha..ha..ha :rofl:

ACME A12
02-16-2011, 02:11 PM
thanks buddy , but no they dont trust barney fife with a gun LOL

I like it! When did this happen? And everyone at F.U.C.K. (Friends University of Central Kansas) said you would never amount to anything...:grin:

MarPar
02-16-2011, 02:19 PM
i like it! When did this happen? And everyone at f.u.c.k. (friends university of central kansas) said you would never amount to anything...:grin:

lmao

moparstuart
02-17-2011, 08:47 AM
I like it! When did this happen? And everyone at F.U.C.K. (Friends University of Central Kansas) said you would never amount to anything...:grin:

thank you my friend

Cranky
02-17-2011, 09:08 AM
I don't think that's the 'official' name of that university lol

ACME A12
02-17-2011, 11:10 AM
I don't think that's the 'official' name of that university lol

It was at one time...:occasion14:

MarPar
02-17-2011, 11:18 AM
How about the South Harmon Institute of Technology???

Propwash
02-17-2011, 09:37 PM
How about the South Harmon Institute of Technology???

LOL


Hey, as long as you didn't go to school at this place Stu, you're probably alright

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/11482.jpg

MarPar
02-17-2011, 09:40 PM
LOL


Hey, as long as you didn't go to school at this place Stu, you're probably alright

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/11482.jpg


LMFAO!!!

where...no, nevermind i don't want to know!! :icon_hang:

Propwash
02-17-2011, 09:51 PM
LMFAO!!!

where...no, nevermind i don't want to know!! :icon_hang:

The article said the school was adjacent to Golden Gate Bridge Elementary

Awwww...boy, probably gonna catch some flak for that one :icon_axe:

moparstuart
02-17-2011, 09:57 PM
I think Ray has stocked my face book page way to many time to know that I really did get my degree from friends university .

moparstuart
02-17-2011, 10:30 PM
lets get back on topic

MarPar
02-17-2011, 11:10 PM
Awwww...boy, probably gonna catch some flak for that one :icon_axe:

LOL i'll leave that one alone! :icon_axe: hahaha

back on topic...:tongue8: my '68 GTX...

moparman73
02-21-2011, 03:06 AM
Not a good choice to use any ole rivet , vin tampering can taint and put a stigma on the car that will follow it everywhere it goes . Put it back correctly .

X2

Now, back to the original problem--where can we get these rivets for a reasonable price???????

Any FBBO members work at dealers, body shops, distributors, somewhere these rivets are readily available--those trying to sell them for $45 a pair are not having any trouble getting them!

Lets find the source, maybe do a group buy and end the rip-off once and for all !

RRunner70
10-05-2011, 07:13 AM
Bump
:pottytrain3:X2

Now, back to the original problem--where can we get these rivets for a reasonable price???????

Any FBBO members work at dealers, body shops, distributors, somewhere these rivets are readily available--those trying to sell them for $45 a pair are not having any trouble getting them!

Lets find the source, maybe do a group buy and end the rip-off once and for all !

62MAX
10-05-2011, 07:28 AM
X2

Now, back to the original problem--where can we get these rivets for a reasonable price???????

Any FBBO members work at dealers, body shops, distributors, somewhere these rivets are readily available--those trying to sell them for $45 a pair are not having any trouble getting them!

Lets find the source, maybe do a group buy and end the rip-off once and for all !

Ain't that big of a deal,if someone (as in original poster) "really" needs them, I'll give you a pair!!

moparman73
10-10-2011, 04:30 AM
62 Max,
Thanks for the generous offer. This whole "rant" got started because I was planning ahead, trying to source things I would need later on in the process for my car. I don't desparately need them right now, but I will need some later when the dash come out (right now the engine compartment and front suspension is being done) Just looking to buy them for a reasonable price, and $45 /pair does not seem even close to reasonable to me.

oxytousc
10-17-2011, 03:14 PM
I am with Moparman73...I am going to need a set of these in the hopefully not too distant future when I swap in the new dash. $45 a pair is ABSURD.

moparman73
10-17-2011, 08:08 PM
Yes, all we have to do is find out where the ripoff artists are getting them from and cut out the middleman. They can't be very hard to get if you know the manufacturer. Anyone have any info??? Brand, Part #, anything???