Citrus1973
01-15-2011, 12:06 PM
I was searching through Summit web sits and the headers they say fit the Doba Chassis are like $500. What fits?
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What Headers?Citrus1973 01-15-2011, 12:06 PM I was searching through Summit web sits and the headers they say fit the Doba Chassis are like $500. What fits? 1badgtx 01-15-2011, 12:46 PM You are better off calling a rep and talking to them personally...That way if a screw up happens it,s on them...I bought a set of hooker ceramics from them...The instructions did not say if you use edelbrock heads the #2 spark plug would be a bitch to put in...After I modified the header they said why didnt you go for the two inch so you would not have that problem...DUHH>>>> Petty Blue 67 GTX rumblefish360 01-15-2011, 02:03 PM What size engine? Small blocks can use tti's or Hooker SUPER comp. headers for best fit period! Regular one size fits all standard type of header you nornmally see still suck and fit ill, unless your lucky. Installation of the 1 size fits all is very hard. The tti's and Hooker SUPER comp headers are easy , very easy by compare. Been there, done that refuse to go back to cheap/inexpensive 1 size fits all headers. Citrus1973 01-15-2011, 02:44 PM 1badgtx, 2 inch primaries ?!? Wow! What kind of HP and RPM do you run? rumblefish360, It's a 318 2 barrel. eventually will be replaced with a slightly warmed up 360. 1badgtx 01-15-2011, 03:16 PM Not much,450 hp...6500 rpm redline...I figured one day to build a low deck 400 stroker so all the new parts I bought for the 440 will also go on my stroker motor...Heads ,exhaust the works except for the intake and carb...The low deck fits under the hood better than the rb engine.....I,m always fighting clearence problems... Petty Blue 67 gtx rumblefish360 01-15-2011, 06:16 PM Do 1 of the 2 headers I suggested to use. For starters, they do not require any tubes to under the front end linkage and because of that, you will not scrape them, dent them, faltten out the tubes. Installation is alot easier. ALOT! These will work really nice with a 360 with power of note. MAGNUM GT XS22L9R 01-15-2011, 06:30 PM Where did you get yours? Citrus1973 01-15-2011, 08:41 PM I've been reading about tti headers for years. Expensive. Haven't looked up the Hookers yet. Do you have a part#? rumblefish360 01-16-2011, 07:27 AM Where did you get yours? I've been reading about tti headers for years. Expensive. Haven't looked up the Hookers yet. Do you have a part#? Regular black painted @ $450; Ceramic coated version @ $696; http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/Hooker-Headers/Product-Line/Hooker-Super-Competition-Headers/Header-Style/Full-length/Make/PLYMOUTH/Model/BARRACUDA/Year/1973/Engine-Size/5-6L-340/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc&autoview=SKU I had these on a small block in my Magnum. 68383GTS 01-16-2011, 09:37 AM 66-70 B body headers fit perfect rumblefish360 01-16-2011, 01:39 PM 66-70 B body headers fit perfect Of what sytle and brand. The 1 size fits all laffable joke of a header? The ones that get scraped and dented and flattened out at the first speed bump or pot hole or heavy bounce the car takes? Please! 1969Coronet440 01-16-2011, 01:44 PM I have TTI headers on my Demon 340 with a 3" x-pipe and they are a work of art. I am planning on buying a set for my Coronet. They fit perfectly without ant problems with the installation. MAGNUM GT XS22L9R 01-16-2011, 05:50 PM Of what sytle and brand. The 1 size fits all laffable joke of a header? The ones that get scraped and dented and flattened out at the first speed bump or pot hole or heavy bounce the car takes? Please! I agree, put some of those on my Duster 340. Had to flatten out to get it to fit around the steering and hit a speed bump. Removed them and got better. Citrus1973 01-16-2011, 05:57 PM I guess the headers will be in the future then. Probably cut the cat out and put a dynaflow muffler on it for now. MAGNUM GT XS22L9R 01-16-2011, 08:38 PM Don't forget the extras. :D http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!CBm3oD!EGk~$(KGrHqN,!hcEzd86rgwrBNIZKP4izw~~0_12. JPG Jonnyuma 01-16-2011, 09:19 PM This is a good thread, I wish more people would weigh in on it. I'm using stock manifolds with a custom 2 into 1, 3" exhaust right now. My exhaust guy told me to stay away from headers because my ride height is so low and they would most assuredly scrape. I've considered shorty or tight tuck headers, but with power steering theres no guarantee of fit. Hooker Super Comps and TTis are all but guaranteed to fit, but also quite spendy. Some also specify that the are for vehicles without power steering. Who has ever seen a late 70s ANYTHING that doesn't have power steering? Converting to manual steering is a huge, expensive (although not unappealing) proposition. You guys that have done this please give up the dope. Citrus1973 01-17-2011, 08:38 AM I have day dreamed about dumps Magnum. Would love to pull into work with them wide open every day. LOL! Citrus1973 01-17-2011, 08:38 AM Can you post some pics of this system Jonnyuma? Sounds like an option for me. 68383GTS 01-17-2011, 10:37 AM I used Headman 1 5/8 tube. Jonnyuma 01-17-2011, 11:43 AM I'll try to take some pics, Citrus. The car just happens to be up on stands right now for some winter servicing so maybe they'll even turn out. I've recently been trying to gather-up information about running dual exhaust, which is what I really wanted in the first place. But, with the offset gas tank and low ride height, the whole thing seemed to be way too much hassle. My compromise was the fore-mentioned 3" single with a hi-flow Magnaflow cat and a Magnaflow muffler. In this pic you can see why I was worried about scraping. I've torn collectors off more than one set of headers in the past and drove around with it like that for awhile. I'm trying to be a grown-up now. Not sure yet how thats gonna work-out.http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz238/chrybb/S5300005a.jpg[ rumblefish360 01-17-2011, 06:24 PM Please take the time to resize pictures Jonnyuma 01-18-2011, 08:58 AM Please enlighten me. Citrus1973 01-18-2011, 02:45 PM www.tinypic.com poor white boy 01-18-2011, 05:11 PM i got cheap set of summit header that say it fits they late b-bodys Citrus1973 01-18-2011, 06:34 PM Do they? rumblefish360 01-18-2011, 07:12 PM Please enlighten me. I myself use microsofts picture manager which is on my hard drive. i got cheap set of summit header that say it fits they late b-bodys Those are the 1 size fits all style right? I bet they are. racerspen 01-27-2012, 09:38 PM Can anyone tell me what headers to use on a 400 77 dodge charger, that is stock. I am freshening up a 50k original daytona and want add headers before I put the k-frame and motor back in. I have tried to search this forum for bb header info and have only come up with the headman elite on a few threads and then some threads talk about using any bb header. I think I have looked on every header website and have not found one that I can assure will fit this car. Any suggestions would be helpful. I dont mind paying top dollar if they will fit the first time and last so I dont have to replace them anytime soon. Thanks Spencer 1969Coronet440 01-29-2012, 11:08 AM I have TTI headers on my Coronet R/T and Demon 340 and they sell headers for 400 cid engines: http://www.ttiexhaust.com/HEADERS.htm#B Jonnyuma 01-29-2012, 12:16 PM I've recently been informed that Hedman (Summit's) part # HED78050 fit later model B body small blocks without drama. They also list part # HED78030 for big blocks. The guy that told me this has used em several times on different cars (78-79 Magnums) without any steering or starter clearance issues. Good price at under 200 bux, they're worth a shot. Hooker's Competition headers go for the same money, but I've never heard or read what kind of resuts people get with em. I have no idea why it costs 2-3 times more to make a header that fits vs one that "almost" fits, quality of materials notwithstanding. Tubing is bent, then welded together....the end. Thicker tubing, flanges, better welds and finishes add up to more $$ for sure, but you'd think something as elemental as "fit" wouldn't cost THAT much extra.... I'd love like hell to have a top-quality set of ceramic-coated headers on my car, but at $500-$700 its just not very likely. That's in the ballpark of what I paid for the car initially. Fighting with cheap , ill-fitting headers isn't really worth the trouble either for what basically amounts to a beater/driver. I guess you get what you pay for...sometimes less. racerspen 02-08-2012, 01:30 PM Thanks Jonnyuma and 1969coronet440, I have a set of hedman 78030's already or atleast what appears to be the exact same pipe configuration and they hit the power steering. I found a set from schumacher creative services ( www.engine-swaps.com (http://www.engine-swaps.com )that) ) and are of a tri y configuration and they say they fit great(ofcourse, right!). Has anyone had any experience with these? Or does anyone have a set of headers on there 400ci 1975-1977 charger or cordoba and didnt need to beat them or they dont rub, if so let me know? Would be greatly appreciated. I may just get these schumachers just to try them out and let the rest of ya know how they fit. TTI says they have never had a set on those years of b-bodys and dont know if they would fit. Is anyone running the TTI's on there 400? racerspen 02-09-2012, 10:32 AM I have decided to buy the headers from schumacher and try them out. I will let you all know how it goes. :nike: Jonnyuma 02-09-2012, 01:11 PM I've heard (read) that the Schumacher and TTIs both fit late B bodies well. I think the only thing that keeps em from ending this discussion permanently is the price tag. If they weren't so expensive, guys wouldn't be constantly searching for a lower priced alternative. I just looked at the Schumachers online and you're looking at over a G, delivered. No doubt they're of the highest quality, but thats a pretty penny to drop on a discretionary item. If you're going racing and need every last bit of power out of your engine, they'd be mandatory....and worth it. But for a street going cruiser/hot rod...? Man, that's a lotta dough for most of us. A set of heads, wheels and tires, upholstery, lots of stuff could be done with a thousand bux. At least thats how I see it. Whichever ones you decide to go with, come back and let us know how it goes. This seems to be a murky area and every bit of first-hand information is helpful to others wrestling with the same decisions. 77chargerdaytona 02-23-2012, 07:16 PM It's been so long I don't remember who built the headers but I believe they are "BlackJack" and they are not expensive. I had them alumacoated at a machine shop for $50 and they still work fine after twenty years. The alumacoat is why they are still in good shape. They are on a 440 in a '77 Charger. Go to any autoparts store and order headers for a 1968 to 1974 B body, Charger, Road Runner etc. They all fit. Just because the Chrysler service manual calls it an X body doesn't mean that it isn't actually a B body. It is a B body and everything is the same except perhaps the iso suspension nonsense. CordobaDart 02-23-2012, 10:21 PM I got a good used set of hooker super comp ceramic coated headers for cheap at work. They were on an A12 Runner that we are restoring to original. I am swapping from 318 to 440 in my 76 doba this summer if all works out. Just in time for $5+ gas... still want to do the swap anyhow.. Hopefully these headers work out good for me, if not, I can probably get my money back through Craigslist. I will have to post results. racerspen 02-28-2012, 05:06 PM Got the schumacher headers. Seem to fit great, not done with the exhaust yet, but the headers fit great. Ill try to add some pics when I figure out how! Citrus1973 02-28-2012, 10:02 PM I've decided to forego headers alltogether. I am going to get some stock manifolds from a '92 truck or van with a magnum motor in it including the front pipe. Cut front pipe and build a dual system. These magnum manifolds have a 2 1/8 i.d. Part #53006617 driver and 53006618 pass. super77se 02-29-2012, 10:15 AM for all concerned, these fit all 75-79 small block B bodies AND A bodies Hooker Headers 5901HKR - Hooker Competition Headers (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-5901HKR/) trust me i know from experience. these fit all 75-79 B Body 400 Hooker Headers 5903HKR - Hooker Competition Headers (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-5903HKR/) demonram 03-04-2012, 06:47 AM I just wrote about this yesterday on another post. Stay away from Hookers!! They fit like crap on my 72 satty with factory 400/727. Steering clearance, hit the tranny on the bump out. When I finally got ahold of the customer service( dont try calling they never even answered the phone) thru email, what a joke. I had purchased them in November and didn't install them until May. He told me the warranty was already up(90 days). I told him I had just installed them and I had sandblasted them and coated them with POR30. That voided the warranty and I must have modified them. He asked what mounts I had (stock) every question was to shift the blame on me. The only modifications were to the clearance problem areas after I had to use them. I will never buy SCHNOOKERED HEADERS again. It amazes me a company that has been around for decades cant get the fit right on a car thats 40 years old and then wont warranty them if there is a problem. super77se 03-04-2012, 12:12 PM FWIW- the small block headers on my charger and my duster are both the same exact header. they are the cheap ass long tube hooker headers and they fit perfect. they dont leak, they dont scrape, they dont burn wires, they dont hit any thing, and the paint looks as good as the day i bought them, and they have been ran every day for the last year and a half. it took me all of 3 hours to take my complete exhaust system of my duster and bolt these on and running. now, the BB headers from everyone i know has not had a problem, although i have read both sides of the story good and bad. maybe there was an issue with them i am not aware of. WileERobby 03-16-2012, 04:58 PM I put my first set of headers in 1973... in all the years since, I've installed quite a few Hookers on my, and customers, cars. Only once did I have a minor clearance issue with the right torsion bar on a Mopar. And I never had a quality/waranty issue with any Hooker header, either. Citrus1973 04-09-2012, 09:33 AM I found these on ebay. I wonder if they'd work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/130605988237?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 1toolguy 04-09-2012, 01:38 PM I can't say for sure but it looks like the drivers side tubes will be trying to occupy the same space as the steering box. Phil Anderson 04-23-2012, 03:59 PM Schumacher claims to have headers that will fit for 73 and up B Bodies. I have bought a lot of items from thm and everthing has worked as promised. | |||