Attention ALL 1966-67 B-Body owners!

As some of you know, I have been searching for a set of undamaged / unbroken defroster duct nozzles for my 1966 Coronet 500 and it's upcoming interior restoration. I have been looking for these nozzles since 1989 when I bought my car and so far, I have only been able to fing one NOS passenger side nozzle and NO drivers side nozzles! :(

As luck would have it, I was also looking for one of the reproduction 1967-69 A & B-Body black plastic 3 spoke steering wheels and one of our members here on FBBO (plumbeeper) referred me to Mike Ross who is the owner of B/E&A Restoration Parts Inc in Medina, OH. After talking at length to Mike about his reproduction steering wheels and buying one, I ask him if he, or anybody else that he knew in the reproduction parts business was considering reproducing the 1966 and 67 B-Body defroster duct nozzles.

Mike said that he wasn't sure that there was enough folks out there that would be interested in buying thses defroster nozzles, but that if I could get at least 100 owners to contact him with a SERIOUS interest in buying these parts, he COULD and WOULD reproduce them!

He said that they would be made out of a HIGH QUALITY injected molded plastic that would be MUCH nicer than the original OEM parts and that they would look and fit just like the originals did when they were new! He said that he could most likely sell them for something in the neighborhood of $150.00 to $195.00 for the set and that he could have them ready to sell in 2 to 3 months once he had enough firm orders from folks.

These defroster duct nozzles will fit all 1966 Coronet's and Charger's, all 1966 Belvedere's and Satellite's and all 1967 Coronet's, Charger's, Belvedere's, satellite's and GTX's. These will fit cars with, or without factory air conditioning. You can verify this in your 1966 and 1967 factory parts books under section #1-48-144, part number 2607398 for the passenger side nozzle and part number 2607399 for the driver side nozzle.

Here is the contact information to let Mike know of your SERIOUS interest to purchase these parts and please let him know that Richard Kane refered you to him. :yes:

B/E&A
Mike Ross owner
699 W. Liberty Street
Medina OH 44256

Phone: 330-725-3990
Fax: 330-241-4922

E-mail: michael@BEAparts.com
Web site: www.beaparts.com


So come on folks, if you want these parts and you KNOW that you do, NOWS THE TIME TO ACT!!! We need 100 people to make a FIRM comitment to buy these parts to make it happen! :sSig_thanks::HappyNewYear:

Richard
thebankerstoy@cox.net

A little pricey...if price was lower, he would get more orders & business.

im not doing a resto sorry. i,ll be hitting mine with the old hot glue gun.but thanks for asking

that is a little steep for a lot of people, including myself. as far as the price, it's probably pretty close considering r&d, tooling and manufacturing of the item. but i can guarantee, there's WAY more than a hundred guys that need these things. a hundered bucks a pair, and he'd cover his ass in no time.
until i get a numbers matching car, i'll stick to jb weld and fender washers.

Yea..I was thinking around $100 for the pair would be about right....

Well guy's, you KNOW how hard it is to find these defroster nozzles ANYWHERE and even the broken / repaired ones go for good money on ebay on the few occations that you see them, so when you have a chance to buy a BRAND NEW, BETTER THAN ORIGINAL part for a VERY reasonable price, I don't understand your thought process. :confused:

You have to realize that it DOES cost the folks who reproduce these parts REAL MONEY to do the research and development on each and every part that they make and that they are in business to make a profit right? :yes: It is REALLY frustrating to hear 66-67 B-Body owners BITCH about how nobody reproduces parts for their cars and then when they have a chance to make it happen, they pass on the opportunity . :(

Come on guy's, aren't you SICK of seeing HUNDRES of E-Body reproduction parts being made and LOTS of parts being made for the 68-70 B-Body cars and then realize that VERY LITTLE is being made for our 66-67 B-Body cars? :( PLEASE pick up your phone, or send an e-mail and let it be known that we love our 66-67 B-Body cars just as much as the E-Body and later model B-Body owners do!!!:yes:

Rant over and out....... :soapbox:

Richard

sorry never knew they where a popular item. I took the ones out of my car when I deleted my defroster. I will look for them and if I still have them and they are any good you can have them.:santa:

To the person who thinks the reproduction price is to high? How much do you think the tooling etc would cost just to set up to make them. I wouldn't be surprised with time and material you would have to sell a 100 sets at that price just to break even.:confused:

i agree. read my post again. 200 bucks is too much for ME for two pieces of thin plastic.

i agree. read my post again. 200 bucks is too much for ME for two pieces of thin plastic.


BTW it wasn't your post I was refering to..I agree the price is high for what it is, but isn't almost everything that way?:grin:


orginal poster...I'm getting a 66 Net Saturday I will check them to see if they are any good and let you know.

i agree. read my post again. 200 bucks is too much for ME for two pieces of thin plastic.

The price range that I posted above was between $150.00 and $195.00 and MAYBE less after Mike figures out what it will take to make them.

As far as being "two pieces of thin plastic" goes, the new reproduction parts will be made out of a MUCH better plastic than than the originals were and since they are a pain in the ass to reach, I don't know about most of you folks, but I'd LOVE to only have to replace these parts ONCE and forget about them because they will be a superior part that will live a long and happy life tucked up under the dash for MANY years to come! :yes:r

The reason that I'm spear heading this project with Mike, is because of the MANY 66-67 B-Body owners that I've talked to over the years about these parts and how much they would LOVE to see them reproduced because it's a royal pain in the ass when you NEED your defroster to work and your damn defroster nozzles are all busted up and your heaters warm air blows out underneath your dash instead of up on your windshield! :(

We now have the attention of an owner of a very well known Mopar Restoration parts company, who has agreed to make the parts we need, IF we can show him that if he spends the time and money to make them, we will buy them. What more can we ask for?

Richard

Thanks VERY much to you folks who have extras of these parts, because if this deal with B/E&A doesn't work out due to a lack of interested buyers, I will need them, especially the drivers side, as I only have one broken one with one of the mounting tabs missing and one that has a poorly repaired mounting tab from a previous owner. :(

Richard
thebankerstoy@cox.net

I would think that these would be plentyfull. So many parts cars out there. Especially since 89. Is there a particular reason they are not? Do they break easy or something? Are they different for a big block car and a small block?
KID

Richard
I forgot to mention that I had a really nice 66 Coronet 440 from California a few years ago. It was teal blue with blue int. factory 318 poly car with a 440 transplant and 3.91 sure grip. 14" road wheels with red lines. One of, if not the most rust free car I've ever had. Still had the Hollywood CA Certicard too! I can't seem to find any pics. of it though?:mad:
KID

Not wanting to start a mess here..But if you want to talk reproduction parts

I think you could sell more of these.

off course specific to 66 nets how about park light lens?

or park light lens sockets?

or front bumpers work on charger too.

66-7 window cranks ?

or what everone wants vent window frames with nice chrome??

I would think that these would be plentyfull. So many parts cars out there. Especially since 89. Is there a particular reason they are not? Do they break easy or something? Are they different for a big block car and a small block?
KID

The originals are made out of a VERY cheap 1960's plastic and if they aren't broken IN the car already like most of them are, they WILL break 9 out of 10 times when you try to remove them from the car. :( If you look at the pictures that I posted above, you will see that the two "mounting tabs" are VERY thin and this is why you can't find nice used ones from 40 plus year old parts cars in the junkyards that are exposed to either extreme heat like we have here in AZ, or the extreme cold like they have back east and other locations.

These defroster duct nozzles are identical in ALL 1966 and 1967 Dodge and Plymouth B-Body cars and use the same part numbers listed above, regardless of the body style, (hardtop, Sedan, Convertible, 2 door, 4 door ect) engine size, with or without factory air conditioning, or any other options. About the ONLY 66-67 B-Body car that would NOT have these nozzles, are the cars with the factory heater delete option, which of course means that the car would also have no defroster equipment.

Richard

Not wanting to start a mess here..But if you want to talk reproduction parts

I think you could sell more of these.

off course specific to 66 nets how about park light lens?

or park light lens sockets?

or front bumpers work on charger too.

66-7 window cranks ?

or what everone wants vent window frames with nice chrome??

An EXCELLENT question and the very question that I asked Mike Ross about, even though I already knew what his answer would be and sure enough he confirmed it. He say's that the two biggest reasons are that just about NOBODY in the aftermarket world wants to take a chance on reproducing parts that are of the "one year only" variety for a vehicle who's owners have historically not bought the parts when they were reproduced. That's why you will most likely NOT ever see the 1966 only two piece floor console body parts made, or parking light lenses, tail lamp lenses, or any other parts that fits ONLY one vehicle with one production year run. There are some exceptions out there, but if you REALLY study the reproduction parts that are currently being offered, MOST of them fit more than one model year and more than one model car. The ONLY reason that we have a chance of getting these defroster duct nozzles made, is because they fit ALL of the 1966 and 1967 B-Body cars, regardless of the body style or brand.

Richard

i,ve rat holed almost a whole car worth of parts,the best of 4 cars in case im ever in an accident. i understand completely about 1 year cars

I read your posting Richard and thought YIPPEE!! I'm gonna have some ducts that don't break whenever I need to stick my hand under the dash.

Then I saw the price... Yeow.. Next time mine breaks, it's glue and tape again..

I read your posting Richard and thought YIPPEE!! I'm gonna have some ducts that don't break whenever I need to stick my hand under the dash.

Then I saw the price... Yeow.. Next time mine breaks, it's glue and tape again..

Ok Mike, if, and I'm only saying IF I can talk Mike Ross into making this PAIR (1 of each side) of nozzles for somewhere between $125.00 and $150.00, would you folks be interested in making a FIRM commitment to buy them so we can get started on them once we get a 100 sets spoken for?

Richard

Reminds me of a story not too long ago...a certain company was going to make tail light lenses for a certain year Charger....company asked out here "How many would be interested in buying reproduction lenses from me if I make them? Everyone said..."I will, I will!"

So certain company reproduced the lenses and when they were done, company said, "Lenses are finished, here is the product, here is the price"

Most all who said they would buy the lenses did not purchase them because price was too high, so certain company went out of business, never to make lenses again

My point here is this....and you guys can disagree with me if ya want, I don't care.....If these plastic dash defroster outlets are $200 per pair.....I bet maybe 2 out of 100 people may buy them. Now, if these little outlets were priced at $100 for the pair....I bet the other 98% would step up and buy them at that price. He would make a lot better profit from his product if it were priced so the average person could afford it, not the guys with unlimited funds in the bank.

I am Administrator on a Charger forum....I'm gonna put this up to our group and see what everyone says.....bet it's about the same as what I posted here...$200 is overpriced....

Off my soapbox now, thanks for listening

Bryan

Having investigated having parts repopped I can tell you that the R&D and mold costs don't come cheap. That fact is proven by the fact that not every part for every car is available. If were CHEAP then everyone would be doing it.

But it isn't cheap, and not everyone is doing it.

There is a whole lot more I'd like to say, but I think I'll stop here. Just remember not to bitch the next time you have to try to tape and glue your busted part back together again. You had your chance.

Reminds me of a story not too long ago...a certain company was going to make tail light lenses for a certain year Charger....company asked out here "How many would be interested in buying reproduction lenses from me if I make them? Everyone said..."I will, I will!"

So certain company reproduced the lenses and when they were done, company said, "Lenses are finished, here is the product, here is the price"

Most all who said they would buy the lenses did not purchase them because price was too high, so certain company went out of business, never to make lenses again

My point here is this....and you guys can disagree with me if ya want, I don't care.....If these plastic dash defroster outlets are $200 per pair.....I bet maybe 2 out of 100 people may buy them. Now, if these little outlets were priced at $100 for the pair....I bet the other 98% would step up and buy them at that price. He would make a lot better profit from his product if it were priced so the average person could afford it, not the guys with unlimited funds in the bank.

I am Administrator on a Charger forum....I'm gonna out this up to our group and see what everyone says.....bet it's about the same as what I posted here...$200 is overpriced....

Off my soapbox now, thanks for listening

Bryan

Thank you very much Bryan, for your help in spreading the word on this project. I would like to add that just because my screen name is thebankerstoy, I am NOT one of those folks that you mention who has "unlimited funds in the bank" by any means! I'm just as concerned about what the reproduction parts that we need for our cars are costing these days as ANY member here, but I also know from being in the banking business for MANY years, that a SMART businessman, especially in a business where they are making a product that is WANT based, such as reproduction car parts, rather than NEED based items, such as food, clothing, housing ect, that you had better do your homework BEFORE you commit your business and it's asset's to ventures that you are unsure that you WILL make a profit from. The folks that are making these reproduction parts are NOT a non-profit charity, everything they do is profit driven, as it should be, it's as simple as that.

Have you guy's been paying attention to what less than driver quality parts are going for on ebay and even worse, what really nice parts are going for? Have you also been looking at places like Year One, Paddock and other large Mopar retailers are charging for their parts that they aren't even making like Mike Ross is at B/E&A?

Is the reason that there are so many E-Body reproduction parts being made these days, because ALL of the E-Body owners are loaded with LOTS of spare spending money? I know SEVERAL folks here in Phoenix who own E-Body cars, including my brother-in-law and me who don't and I can PROMISE you that we don't have a bank vault full of cash just sitting around waiting to be spent on the E-Body car projects! I will tell you though, that folks who own E-Body cars DO support the Mopar vendors who are making the parts, or the parts wouldn't be made. If you guy's want parts reproduced for our 66-67 B-Body cars, you will HAVE to support the companies who make them, or you might as well park your car in the garage and use it for storage, because new parts won't be made for them!

Just food for thought from a guy who understands BOTH sides of the argument! :yes:

Richard

Ok Mike, if, and I'm only saying IF I can talk Mike Ross into making this PAIR (1 of each side) of nozzles for somewhere between $125.00 and $150.00, would you folks be interested in making a FIRM commitment to buy them so we can get started on them once we get a 100 sets spoken for?

Richard

Even $100 for the set is high for what the part is. $100 for a mint 67 440 taillight with all the chrome pieces yes. $100 for couple pieces of plastic that no one sees? Nope..

Over at the Coronet Registry I've posted a poll to try and gauge interest in the ducts. I'll let you know how it pans out.

I've done the same on my forum....everybody is out getting blitzed...might get more responses this weekend.

im off to get blitzed with them. see ya next year

Thanks to both of you for your help in finding out if these parts have enough interest from folks who actually own and drive these cars.

Mike, I agree that you can't SEE these two defroster nozzles, but you sure will be glad you have them up and running when you have that VERY cool 67 Coronet of yours out on a cruise night pissing off all of those Ford and Chevy guy's in your area and you NEED your defroster to actually work!

I mean GEEZ Mike, I live in fricken Phoenix AZ where we need defrosters MAYBE a couple of nights a YEAR and I"M trying to sell these impossible to find parts to you guy's who will use them MANY times a year? That just seems wrong on SO many different levels!!!:sFun_doh2:

I just REALLY want the aftermarket folks to take us 66-67 B-Body owners SERIOUSLY so that we can get some parts repoped for our cars, so if I am able to prove to Mike that we WILL buy these defroster nozzles that I know LOTS of people need, maybe I can convince him to produce other badly needed parts that we want and need you know? Maybe I'm TOTALLY wrong about the kinds of people that own, restore and drive these awesome 66-67 Mopar's, but I don't think so.

Richard

I'm in the chicago metro area and have not had a heater box in the car for 5 years. I wish I had it one time a year maybe it seems. The windows get foggy it must be time to take the car home.
HAPPY SAFE NEW-YEAR TO EVERYONE !!!

I wanted to let you all know that I had another excellent conversation with Mike Ross at B/E&A today and told him that I have received good response from folks on different Mopar web sites that I have posted on about having these defroster duct nozzles reproduced, BUT that most everyone that responded were only interested in them at a much lower cost, so he has agreed to offer them at somewhere between $85.00 to 100.00 per set, as long as he gets SERIOUS requests for at least 100 sets.

So, you folks have asked for a lower price and Mike has given it to you. Now all you have to do is contact him at B/E&A and let him know how many you need and let him tell you what he needs from you to make it happen.

Richard

Richard...I'm gonna copy yer above post on my forum....if that's OK with you

Bryan

Richard...I'm gonna copy yer above post on my forum....if that's OK with you

Bryan

Absolutely Bryan and please feel free to post all of the contact information so that your members can contact Mike at B/E&A. May I ask where I can find your forum so I can check it out? I've owned various Mopar muscle cars over the years, including a 1970 Charger R/T, so I enjoy going to all kinds of Mopar web sites!

Richard

Richard....our forum is www.66-67charger.com Our site is mainly for 66 & 67 Dodge Chargers, but even if you don't own one, there are plenty of threads to view and friends to make. (You will have to register to view all of our threads & topics....some are hidden until registration is complete. My name on there is 383-8V, I look forward to seeing you there)

I have already copied your posts and pasted them into our forum. Mike is a member of our site as well, and he has been talking with us about this subject.

Bryan

Well, I just ripped my dash apart and lo and behold...I need them too. Its alot of work to get these to a manufacturing state and the price is likely justified...$100. a pair would be more realistic...unless I win the lottery!!!

For the price of $85-100 for the pair, I'd go for it also. I know above I said it was too much, but I just looked at mine, and the repair didn't last the summer..

(I can see Richard jumping for joy when he reads this one.. I just hope he don't land on his poodle, the body on that car too straight for him to ding up!)

For the price of $85-100 for the pair, I'd go for it also. I know above I said it was too much, but I just looked at mine, and the repair didn't last the summer..

(I can see Richard jumping for joy when he reads this one.. I just hope he don't land on his poodle, the body on that car too straight for him to ding up!)

Hey Mike. :th_krazy::dancing_monkey:

I KNEW that you needed a set!!! :tongue: ANYBODY who wants their heating system to work like it did when their car was new NEEDS to replace these parts!!! My Coronet will NEVER be a 100 point show car, because frankly, those kinds of cars bore me cause you can't drive them and enjoy them, but I DO want my heating system, a/c system, power windows and EVERYTHING else on my car to be functional and working like it did when it was new! Having parts on your car that don't work are for the CHEVY and FORD owners! :tongue: I'm just one of those guy's that will be PROUD to be able to say that EVERYTHING works on my 43 year old muscle car!!!

All you need to do now is call 1-330-725-3990 and talk to Mike Ross and order a set!!! :grin::dancing_monkey:

Richard

I wanted to give everybody an update on my attempt to have Mike at B/E&A Restoration Parts Inc reproduce the defroster duct nozzles for ALL of our 1966-67 B-Body cars.

The news is NOT good, as I just talked with Mike via e-mail and he told me that since he agreed to start this project because of me asking him to and having me talk to folks on various Mopar web sites who own 1966-67 B-Body cars, he has had ZERO phone calls, or e-mails to him from ANY owners asking to purchase a set, or sets, if they were reproced. :(

As I told Mike, it is VERY frustrating to have been talking to MANY 66-67 B-Body owners over the past 20 years that I've owned my 66 Coronet 500 and having them tell me that they REALLY wished that "someone" would reproduce these parts, as well as many other parts for our cars and then when given a chance to actually get them reproduced by a leader in the Mopar reproduction parts industry at a VERY good price, we pass on the chance!:(

If ANY of you out there REALLY want to get these defroster nozzles made, NOW is the time to call, or e-mail Mike, because if we don't act SOON, they will most likely never get done and we will have to try and find the bits and pieces that fall off of our "repaired" 42 year old originals as they continue to degrade and fall apart. :frustrated:

Richard

I need them for my car, for 100 id do it, 200 is too much when I still need tail light bezels and tail light lenses.

Ive owned three of these things ('67 Plymouths) in the last year and a half and two had nothing, one had a pair that were all broken.

I need them for my car, for 100 id do it, 200 is too much when I still need tail light bezels and tail light lenses.

Ive owned three of these things ('67 Plymouths) in the last year and a half and two had nothing, one had a pair that were all broken.

Hi GTXMATT,

Mike Ross at B/E&A has agreed to reproduce a better than original SET of these defroster duct nozzles for a price range of between $85.00 to $100.00 plus shipping to your front door. I've seen broken and or repaired 42 year old original parts go for more than that on ebay. :banghead:

If you, or any of our other members here want them, all you folks need to do is either call Mike at 1-330-725-3990, or e-mail him at michael@BEAparts.com and let him know how many you need. One hundred guy's buying one set, or one guy buying 100 sets, or any combination to get to having 100 sets sold is what it will take to get them made.

Richard