Dayclona Daytona

Hopefully the wingcar forum will pick up here,.....the DC.com site was getting real stale........same topics year after year., nothing really "moving" over there?..........so If I can help you guys out with any technical advice, or photos feel free to ask.....looks like we'll be a little more relaxed over here?


Mike G/ DAYCLONA

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I saw them in mopar muscle i think,but im thinking of doing my own,and NOT spending 10k just to put a nose piece and rear wing on it.

Ok the wing cars use Coronet fenders right? So has anyone made a Supernet or Winged Bee? Put a nose and wing on a Coronet body?

Haven't ever noticed one, but I'd bet someone's done it

I saw them in mopar muscle i think,but im thinking of doing my own,and NOT spending 10k just to put a nose piece and rear wing on it.




If your going to do it yourself,.....that's the name of the game!...Hotroddin'.......need any ideas, or want to know what to expect? or avoid?....drop me a line.....I think I know a little "somethin" bout build'in em



Mike G/ DAYCLONA

I love your work.
Any chance of a Superbird conversion for the '73-'74 Satellite/Roadrunner in the future?

Ok the wing cars use Coronet fenders right? So has anyone made a Supernet or Winged Bee? Put a nose and wing on a Coronet body?

I will have to look for the picture but there is a coronet wing car I'll look, there is a different one then this

Love those second gen versions! They really look sleeeeeek!

hey here is another one that has a nose but i lost the nose picture

i love this car fender scoops side scoops and wing , nascar style air intakes on air cleaner

MAN what a great color combo on that Coronet

hey here is another one that has a nose but i lost the nose picture

Anybody got some daytime photos of the Coronet? love to see them.

I remember seeing a Superbird convertible clone at the New York Auto show about 25 years ago. It was Vitamin C with a white gut and I thought it was the coolest thing. Aside from the purchase of the base car, anyone want to venture a guess as to what the conversion would cost ? No labor, just parts.

Parts only...Nose assembly, fender scoops, wing, hood extension, coronet fenders and hood...8 to 15k, maybe more, depending on the quality of the parts. There are all types of repro parts ranging from cheapo fiberglass components, to high end fiberglass components, to steel and aluminum components.

Thanks.

mike we need more pictures of your cars !

mike we need more pictures of your cars !





Stuart as soon as I learn how to post multiple pics in the photo gallery, I will...........I'm a puter' dummie.....newbie:D

Hey Mike........ I'd like to know what parts you might make for Daytona conversions.........

I told Stuart that I have a pretty nice 68 Charger in my garage in new and rebuilt steel....a perfect candidate for a conversion.......big block non-R/T.......I do all my own work from fabrication to finishing too, and want the best bang for my investment........I'd be a big hit with the wife too if we did a Dayclona...

Let me know what you might have available..used parts too..anything that might help..AND, we need a 70 front clip to start. :grin:

HI Mike :wave: ................................Rene

Hey Mike........ I'd like to know what parts you might make for Daytona conversions.........

I told Stuart that I have a pretty nice 68 Charger in my garage in new and rebuilt steel....a perfect candidate for a conversion.......big block non-R/T.......I do all my own work from fabrication to finishing too, and want the best bang for my investment........I'd be a big hit with the wife too if we did a Dayclona...

Let me know what you might have available..used parts too..anything that might help..AND, we need a 70 front clip to start. :grin:

That's what I like to see. A guy heading in the right direction from the get-go. Unlike some of us who had to learn what parts to use...the hard way.:)

That's what I like to see. A guy heading in the right direction from the get-go. Unlike some of us who had to learn what parts to use...the hard way.:)

or us cheap skates who make our body guys use what we can afford .

:yes::yes::yes::D

HI Mike :wave: ................................Rene







What are all you guys bailing off of DC.com.........before you know it, Troy will be over here!............Hello back Rene!

We go where you go. You're our new leader. :grin:

We go where you go. You're our new leader. :grin:

There you go Mike! Your new title King of the winga's!:D

Is the rear window from a 4dr 68-70 similar to the Charger 500 window?

There you go Mike! Your new title King of the winga's!:D


I can hear Mike now..."Oh crap...not those guys".

There you go Mike! Your new title King of the winga's!:D

pete ?

Yeah it's me Stuart. Whats up?

Is the rear window from a 4dr 68-70 similar to the Charger 500 window?

No the 69 Charger 500/Daytona Charger window is specific to that model only,It wasn't used on any other production car. I believe the rear window was only available in clear glass,not tinted.

We're fortunate that Dane and his dad figured out to use the vega hatchback to duplicate the daytona back glass way back when, but no one has found something that we can use for the superbirds. I think that it was Mike G. that told me that the repro back glasses just went up in price again. I wish I could find some kind of glass to use on my wife's bird clone. I may just have to bite the bullet and buy the repro glass. Sure glad that I didn't have to do that on the daytona clone.

There you go Mike! Your new title King of the winga's!:D









Ahhhh!......young master Pete,........I generaly prefer "King of Wing".........You know me, I'm pure Evil!.............."King of the Winga's" is too "mel Brooks".....or "monty phyton":tongueflap:.............but I guess it's better than this

We're fortunate that Dane and his dad figured out to use the vega hatchback to duplicate the daytona back glass way back when, but no one has found something that we can use for the superbirds. I think that it was Mike G. that told me that the repro back glasses just went up in price again. I wish I could find some kind of glass to use on my wife's bird clone. I may just have to bite the bullet and buy the repro glass. Sure glad that I didn't have to do that on the daytona clone.



Larry you could always do the 70-4 Cuda rear window,....seen a few guys do it, very close, much like the vega plug is to the Tona'.......the cuda glass is about 50" at it's widest, the 68-70 B Body rear window is about 56", the Superbird rear window is about 49 " wide and about 26 " tall, the cuda is about 24 " tall last I recall?....little bit of sheetmetal work,....nothing you can't handle!.......very close, consider it?,,,,,,,,,,,,for a custom clone



Mike G

I'll look in the basement and see if I have another cuda back glass. I know I have a couple of challenger back glasses. I wonder how they measure out.
As for making the plug, it won't be easy but not impossible either. I'm beginning to wish that I hadn't sold so many of my cuda parts over the years. It's coming back to haunt me now.

I'll look in the basement and see if I have another cuda back glass. I know I have a couple of challenger back glasses. I wonder how they measure out.
As for making the plug, it won't be easy but not impossible either. I'm beginning to wish that I hadn't sold so many of my cuda parts over the years. It's coming back to haunt me now.




Larry......... only the Cuda' glass will give you the shape/ bubble that your looking for, best to cut a widow and surrounding sheetmetal out of a parts car, or fab your own.............my plug for the bird list $650.......I told you what a discounted price for you would be, the new OEM glass is currently $875 last I checked.......if you sent me enough moulding pcs from 68-70 Plymoyh B body and Charger......I could do a set of mouldings @SB for about $250..........so for between $1500-$2000 you get, plug, glass, and mouldings, you could do the bird plug, or fab up the Cuda rear window......choice is yours.......I know your project is a little ways off for now?.........think about the pros and cons



Mike G/ DAYCLONA

Hey Mike........ I'd like to know what parts you might make for Daytona conversions.........

I told Stuart that I have a pretty nice 68 Charger in my garage in new and rebuilt steel....a perfect candidate for a conversion.......big block non-R/T.......I do all my own work from fabrication to finishing too, and want the best bang for my investment........I'd be a big hit with the wife too if we did a Dayclona...

Let me know what you might have available..used parts too..anything that might help..AND, we need a 70 front clip to start. :grin:





Well PastorTom,



Larry (Hotrod98)and a whole buch of other Guys, have cleaned me out on wingcar stuff lately,.....been very busy filling orders as fast as I can......Have had over 100 orders in the last 9 months........got 3 more this week,......so as you can see, if you need anything, it would have to be ordered/fabricated






As far as what parts I make for the Daytona, everything you might need, depending on what your building.........bone stock 69 Daytona, I can supply every peice you need.........as for the 70 Charger front clip, you'll have to procure that yourself,......I could find you the front clip, but then it would have to be shipped, and when it comes to used sheetmetal, everyone has their own opinion as to what it is worth, rust issuses/ repairs, and if they want to use it on their car,........so the front clip, unless it's NOS,....is best left for you to procure...........a full blown "kit" from me, to make a 69 Daytona, would start at about 12K........


Thanks
Mike G

:tongueflap: this car is slowly becoming my dayclona ! at one time cudaken had started making it a clone

Is this the same car?

the one on the right is my car

but that one on the left has a cage and high back or racing seats , i dont think thats my car .


if you look at the picture of my car , he never that i can tell ever really mounted the wing just had the supports sitting up there nailed to a board laying onthe lid ?
It had daytona fenders on it but no nose or holes in the quarter panel ever drilled . ( to my knowledge)

The red engine bay made me think that it might be the same car. I see the difference now.

that car on the left was on ebay a long time ago

The red engine bay made me think that it might be the same car. I see the difference now.
I think you will get to know it alot better buddy

Dayclona,
What's your next project going to be? I've watched your progress with your cars in magazines making what what could have been what now is. Great work! It's great to see you produce cars that Chrysler was working on and the the differant ideas they had.

Dayclona,
What's your next project going to be? I've watched your progress with your cars in magazines making what what could have been what now is. Great work! It's great to see you produce cars that Chrysler was working on and the the differant ideas they had.




Adam,......thanks for the compliments!.....Much Appreciated!



Well I can't let the cat out of the bag?.....yet?.....but I have several projects in the works......history revisited


Been real busy lately with customers, working on several customers cars.....ones even a "chevy":black_eye:.......1955 Belair.......making Tona'/ Bird parts for customers......leaves little time for personal projects,.......but the personal projects that I do, are for myself, what I desire.......not something to be part of the crowd, or building the latest "bling/Billet" ride.......plus my daughter has plans for me......to build with her, a dodge version of a "grave digger" "bigfoot" truck, for herself..........have a nice 71 dodge power wagon 200 4X4 to start with..........Ahhh never enough projects!..........so whata building/ working on, currently Adam?



Mike

Adam,......thanks for the compliments!.....Much Appreciated!



Well I can't let the cat out of the bag?.....yet?.....but I have several projects in the works......history revisited


Been real busy lately with customers, working on several customers cars.....ones even a "chevy":black_eye:.......1955 Belair.......making Tona'/ Bird parts for customers......leaves little time for personal projects,.......but the personal projects that I do, are for myself, what I desire.......not something to be part of the crowd, or building the latest "bling/Billet" ride.......plus my daughter has plans for me......to build with her, a dodge version of a "grave digger" "bigfoot" truck, for herself..........have a nice 71 dodge power wagon 200 4X4 to start with..........Ahhh never enough projects!..........so whata building/ working on, currently Adam?



Mike
my youngest loves grave digger , cant wait to see your idea ! he will love it for sure !!

I have a '56 Coronet that's been on the back burner for a while. It's a 4dr that I bought fom the original owners family ( I'm a close friend of the family ). When I get around to it I want to put a 440 with a 5spd in it. I want to keep it stock looking for the most part, just a couple changes most people wont notice at first glance. My currant project is a '68 340 S Barracuda fastback... 69k original miles, red with red side strip, Marron interior, floor auto, A/C, white wall tires, 3.23:1 non posi, delux hub caps. It's an odd ball. When I'n done it'll have a factory disc setup ( I already have the compleat setup... what a pita to find new parts for & lots of $$$$ ), and a posi. I'm shooting for a stock resto R-12 and all. I will go with 2 1/2" exhaust too.
I know alot more people are moding there cars now vs bone stock, but on at least one car i'd like to be able to hop in and feel like it's 1968 again.
My altimate goal car will be a '68 Charger R/T clone with an all Aluminum Hemi and 6spd, I want it to look bone stock but put out just a little more hp. lol
Keep up the jaw droping work,

Awesome, I hope to see you at carlisle for mopar week when it comes back around, i didn't see you guys last year, this year was my first. I think i read that that real green 70 daytona was sold 30 min from my house. You got any more pics, i really like that car.

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I do that every time I hear about a "real" 70 Daytona.
Sorry. No offense intended. It's just a knee jerk reaction. Goes way back.

I do that every time I hear about a "real" 70 Daytona.
Sorry. No offense intended. It's just a knee jerk reaction. Goes way back.

I think JJ claimed to have one of those in his museum at one point. That is why I wondered about the stories that might have been told about my old Superbird....since it supposedly spent time in his museum as well.

I think JJ claimed to have one of those in his museum at one point. That is why I wondered about the stories that might have been told about my old Superbird....since it supposedly spent time in his museum as well.

jerry's is well documented and a very very early clone done at the dealership for the original owner before it left the lot. But that in no way makes it a real factory 70 daytona. My two cents

http://wwnboa.org/70csed.htm

was a dealer conversion

That's some interesting reading

If it was it was, i still think its really neat. Read the bottom of this page, i dont know if some of you all saw it on that page or not.
http://www.superbird.com/70dcd.html Im not trying to get you to think what you dont think i true, just showing off these neat links.

Great info there glean what you want out of it . Sue george is one of my best friends and weather she would state that car was facotry build with the current information out there now i dont know . But untill factory paper work shows up I will believe they are all dealer built !! No daytonas started life build at the st louis plant !

I've always felt that at least one was mocked up for displays, etc and then either returned to stock form or destroyed. Didin't the original watermelon car have the stock back glass? Would have been simple to convert that one back. Chrysler didn't waste many cars. They couldn't afford to. That's why they converted some of the display cars each year rather than replacing them altogether. In other words, I think that the watemelon car was real. Now could you consider it a real daytona? Don't know. Kind of a gray area there.

Yep, its like people who do and don't believe in the big foot myth but either way, i think its neat, i wonder if that green one is still around here in maryland, its rumored to but i doubt it. But i hear you on paper work stuart. Did they even have 1970 charger 500s? if so that probably could of been made into one but ive never seen a 70 500, only a converted 69 into a 70.

there were tons of 70 500 but that was just a base car line in 70 nothing special

Don't let the guys that own '70 500's hear you say that. :grin:

i'll keep that in mind , 69 500's are the best

Don't let the guys that own '70 500's hear you say that. :grin:

lol

http://wwnboa.org/70csed.htm

here is sue's comment she emailed me after i emailed her this thread.


Hi Stuart:

Thanks for sending me the thread on Jerry's car. Yeah, someday when I get time I'm going to have to go in and change that page a little bit. At the time I wrote it, what 15 years ago?, I was lead to believe (by Jerry) that the "invoice" that was on display with the car was a genuine Chrysler factory document. I probably should've known better as Jerry is a bit of a story teller.

Of course, if these people will read between the lines, they would realize that I did say it is a CONVERSION kit added to a Charger SE. My only fault was believing it was a conversion made prior to the dealership, due to the fact that I believed the document came from the assembly plant. I really appreciate you're sticking up for me. Thanks. Sue

my freand has a real daytona and its 23000miles and he bought it about 4300$
http://xs141.xs.to/xs141/09311/irandodge763.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs141&d=09311&f=irandodge763.jpg)
its the only daytona in iran
its 440-4 4speed

hi mike, nice to talk to ya. My question is ,if and where,do you drive these cars? I love the look of the wing cars that could of been but have never seen one at any shows. Im a south shore {bridgewater} boy and been to all the shows but Ive never seen them. Do you not do "shows" ? or have i just missed them, I know they must be super sweet in person from what ive seen in print , :confused:thanks