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Best Rollar Rocker Arms

landman
08-11-2009, 09:58 PM
Hey All
What is the best brand of rollar rockers for the $. I have a set of Crane Gold and they just backed off for the last time.:mad:
PS Im Sellin them Cheep:grin:

mopower_333
08-11-2009, 10:38 PM
Harland sharp makes some nice rockers. They are about double the price of the Crane golds, but worth it in my eyes.

wedge5
08-11-2009, 11:23 PM
I hear that Hughes Engines makes a good set. They make only Mopar stuff! A little less than $500 for shafts,rockers and stuff.

dantrap
08-12-2009, 12:35 AM
Hey Landman, I have been looking at a bunch or arms due to a failure on my engine. And from what i have seen two seem to stand out, the Harland Sharp and the bushed Rockers from RAS.The Sharps have approx twice the area of Crane gold arms, my builder loves them. The RAS arms look very strong and are bushed stainless steel, look of good said about them. The Indy,Hughes and Dove rockers are said to be the same just repackaged, they have some bad press about them, check for your self. The Blue mopar Performance arms are said to be the same as Crane gold units. I have used the Comp Cams Arms and had good luck with a solid flat tappet cam, however a failure on a solid roller application, my fault. I have a friend using the 1.6 bushed S.S. 440 source arms in in a roller 512 with good luck. Let us know a bit more about your application, cam type, spring pressure and application and we may have more info to give. Good Luck

dantrap
08-12-2009, 12:43 AM
One i forgot to mention is Dorvak Machine, they make a trick setup using small diameter shafts and bushed rockers. I do not know any one using them but the Max-wedge Super stock guys perfer them. I think they are worth a look.

wedge5
08-12-2009, 09:05 AM
Very good info! cuz I will be needing a set soon also.
Landman, let use know what you get and how they work for you.

wedge5
08-17-2009, 09:09 AM
Was looking in to new Mopar Muscle mag at the Amsoil engine challenge and noticed most of the builders were using T/D roller rockers.

landman
08-17-2009, 05:17 PM
Sorry guys this is all great stuff and I havent had a chance to reply or thank you all for your help. I will post some more specs tonight when I have a chance.

69 Runner
08-17-2009, 05:46 PM
T/D rockers??

landman
08-17-2009, 11:20 PM
Ok so here is the deal a 440 bored 30 over forged flat top pistons, Indy EZ heads, 585 gross lift cam w/ 286 duration. 1100 Dominator carb with an M1 intake. Pro Race Nitrous Kit pushing 150 shot with NOS timing system best time 10.30 @ 137MPH All this with 3.23 gears a 8.75 rear and (Yes I know) a turbo 400 transmission. A mild engine, very loose and huge ring gaps due to the Nitrous system.
Well folks those are the specs let me know your thoughts.

69 Runner
08-18-2009, 12:01 AM
turbo 400??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????:elmer:

wedge5
08-19-2009, 12:02 AM
T/D Machine Products, man are they pricey. Thought I saw on Doug Herberts site that they were over $1000. I could be wrong but that just sounds insane!

69 Runner
08-19-2009, 12:15 AM
$1000???!!!?!!?!!?!

Do they think they're HEMI rockers??????:rolling:

dantrap
08-20-2009, 11:00 PM
IS your cam a roller or Flat Tappet? If its a roller Harland Sharp is the way to go based on the higher spring pressure you will need to Run. With th EZ head you do not need off-set rockers, your pick wide open. If your using a flat tappet cam i would look at the 440 source bushed rockers. There are so many different roller rockers its tuff to pick one out. Let us know what you pick out. Good luck!

landman
08-23-2009, 08:08 PM
Thanks dantrap it is a flat tappet and I will let you know. Ya I know 69 Runner turbo 400 was the choice after seeing a buddy destroy a car on the line when the rear sprague let loose off a trans brake. I saw a trany blanket turn into feathers like in a pillow fight. I ran a Kevlar shield for a bit, but everyone in the group did some research and turbo 400 don't explode when they break 727s I'm sad to say can.

accharger66
05-28-2011, 10:36 PM
The RAS rockers are really good but pricey (just over a grand). And good luck getting a hold of them, as they never answer their phone or return calls. I live about 30 miles from their shop. Have to go see what the deal is.

HEMI-ITIS
05-28-2011, 11:02 PM
$1000???!!!?!!?!!?!

Do they think they're HEMI rockers??????:rolling:

The T&D HEMI rocker set up with stands and all is over $3000:puke:

Cranky
05-28-2011, 11:22 PM
I'd like to know what makes your T400 explosion proof.....and you might take a look at PRW rockers.

SUPERSTOCKRACER
05-29-2011, 06:59 AM
I got T & D's on my 588 wedge in my blue dodge.
imo, 2nd best rocker out there. my black dodge got jesels.you dont want to know how much they are.
Harland sharps are in my 500 ci wedge in my 63 plymouth with indy 440-1 heads.these are close to $1000.00 also. and dont compare to the T & D

ironside
05-29-2011, 08:15 AM
My 440 is much like your setup. EZ heads, .590 cam and 1050 dominator and run 10.20's. I have had comp rollers in the car for about 6 years now with zero problems. They fit right the first time and I check valves pretty regularly just for my own state of mind and in all honesty I cannot remember them ever being off.
I would love T&D's or Jesel but thus far I have no reason to spend the extra coin. Lots of good suggestions on here. Good luck.

Stumper
05-29-2011, 08:16 AM
I put a set of $1200 T&Ds on my 440 with Indy heads, after breaking some cheap Indy aluminum rockers ... If you are running a set up with a big cam and high pressure springs do not cut corners on the rockers!

moparpoor
05-29-2011, 08:22 AM
Go with the T&D rockers.They are not much more than the harland sharps,they are more expensive if you do the shaft upgrade and hold down upgrade through harland.T&D are a great choice for ez heads with big springs and the push rod clearance issues they have.I run the same setup with a 650 roller and smith bros. push rods that gets some street use with no issues.I spent 900 for the T&D rockers and harland with shaft upgrade and hold downs was closer to a grand.

MoParFish
05-29-2011, 09:55 AM
Guys I know have very good luck with the Harland-Sharps. That's what I will probably run next go around...

As long as were talking rockers, anyone ever heard of McWilliams Rocker Arms? I'm running them now and seem to be working OK. I got em from a friend who knew a guy that had an uncle that traded a horse for 'em:icon_biggrin: They look similar to crane with no rollers or bushings on the shaft. I don't find any info on the the web. As long as they stay together, I'll keep running 'em...

Bbody540
05-31-2011, 04:22 PM
go with T&D I bought mine from CV products, everything racing in north carolina they gave me the best price $835+shipping complete set. phone 800-448-1223 talk to steve Blackburn

4406_CR
06-01-2011, 04:47 PM
Hey All
What is the best brand of rollar rockers for the $. I have a set of Crane Gold and they just backed off for the last time.:mad:
PS Im Sellin them Cheep:grin:

I'm not trying to bash 440Source (I've used some of their stuff with no issues) but I had a bad experience with their rockers. I went with their roller rockers trying to save a few bucks on my last build. After maybe 100 runs, the rollers ate into the shafts. See the attached picture. Of course the metal went all through my engine and when I freshened it up over the winter, the bearings showed signs of dirt (i.e. rocker shaft material). I ended up buying Harland Sharps. Like I said, I don't want to beat up on 440Source. They do have some great stuff. The rockers just didn't hold up for me. Maybe for light street duty they'd be ok...

moparbob498
06-28-2011, 08:19 PM
Harland Sharp---never had an issue yet---im running a .720 roller,.. cant remember the spring pressure,.as its been years since i built the engine,..
and i have Mancini aluminum hold downs,.& smith bros' pushrods... after a expensive failure,.i'll never cut corners on that crap again...

mferraro76
09-23-2011, 04:51 AM
what about proform - has anyone had problems with those?

Cranky
09-23-2011, 09:06 AM
I hear that Proform is at that bottom of the pile.....another great product from China.

383man
09-26-2011, 07:18 PM
Hughes here. My brother and I both run them and they have worked flawless. Ron

goose69
09-30-2011, 11:11 PM
Has anyone else ran the Racer Brown rockers sold through 4secondsflat.com? Seem to be a nice set of rockers and don't cost a grand.
As far as the turbo 400/727 thing. I do remember way back we spun a sprague in our 727. It split the case in half and crap spewed everywhere. Not pretty.

1stBxMopar
10-01-2011, 08:33 AM
Harland Sharpe- same rockers on 3 different motors and never a problem, never backed off......

goose69
10-01-2011, 09:48 AM
1stBxMopar, LOVE the sticker in your rear wing window!!! LMAO

1stBxMopar
10-01-2011, 10:10 AM
1stBxMopar, LOVE the sticker in your rear wing window!!! LMAO
There are few chevy guys that don't like the sticker or the car! Works for me!

jimburk111
10-09-2011, 09:02 PM
A good friend of mine runs a Daytona (small body) with a 451. It's an 8 second car dialed down to 9.9. He had rocker problems, bought the harland sharps and they've
run great.