Mini starter

Hey guys, I need a recommendation. My 40 year old starter is finally getting a bit slow. I want to go to a mini starter but am not sure what brand would be best. I'm not looking for a real high end piece and compression is stock. I just need the brand that will give me dependable service.

Ron

Hey guys, I need a recommendation. My 40 year old starter is finally getting a bit slow. I want to go to a mini starter but am not sure what brand would be best. I'm not looking for a real high end piece and compression is stock. I just need the brand that will give me dependable service.

Ron
440 source sells one for like 79 bucks and it works great on my charger

440 source sells one for like 79 bucks and it works great on my charger


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I have their mini starter on all three of my Mopars below and they are great even with the high compression on the two cars.

Nippon Denso

These are the smallest frame, lightest weight, heaviest duty, OSGR starters. The ones that the "knock-off" companies TRY and copy.

Denso Rebuilt 281-0109
Denso New 280-0136

Nippon Denso

These are the smallest frame, lightest weight, heaviest duty, OSGR starters. The ones that the "knock-off" companies TRY and copy.

Denso Rebuilt 281-0109
Denso New 280-0136

for the anal retentive who can't take a joke....

how much do they sell for

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Nooooooo....the 440 source starter is 79 bucks. I figured someone might want to know how much the ND units were

THIS one is to pad the count:black_eye:

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Well I guess if you don't like the fact that I've welcomed all to the board, you are always welcome to leave.

On second thought.....

"creative" editing is a very slippery slope.....and eliminates the ability of individual members to make full informed decisions, on their own...

"creative" editing is a very slippery slope.....and eliminates the ability of individual members to make full informed decisions, on their own...


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"creative" editing is a very slippery slope.....and eliminates the ability of individual members to make full informed decisions, on their own...

kinda one sided now
But I did read it before it was edited though.
It's good to be the King

Did you guys get into a Beergument:beermug: lastnight?

Nothing was removed that had anything to do with a real "discussion".

Nothing was removed that had anything to do with a real "discussion".

I agree with that also.
Lets talk B-Bodys not post counts.
Who really cares,not me.:yes_no:
I'm better with a wrench than a keyboard.
If people want to type one liners have at it:dancing_monkey::dancing_monkey::dancing_monkey:

MR 69 could not seem to figure out how much one of the starters cost. I told him we used telephones in Maryland to call our parts stores, give them the part number, and got the price. :yes:

He went off when I told him that when telephones got to Texas he would find them useful.. :grin: They may work in other places, also...:yes:

I've got a phone. Has a dial on it and everthang (ok..buttons not a "dial") and it even works.
It was a public service for the people on these forums that will not take the time to read an entire thread (such as http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=42182 on FABO) and just jump in giving suggestions that 1) have nothing to do with the problem or 2) make suggestions that have already been given.

I doubt they would take the time to call for a price. Shit, they have the internet and are to lazy to google something to find an answer.

Since you had part numbers etc I figured you already knew what they cost. Seems like it would have been a simple matter for you to enlighten us all with a price. But instead of just answering the question, you had to be the BMOC and give a smartass remark.

Seemed like a legitimate question to me. Did we ever find out how much they were? I'll bet there's a bunch of us that are reading this that have plans to buy a good mini starter in the near future. I know I am.

I've recently discovered in talking to potential customers that a lot of people are reading our posts and using the information. There are many people out there that don't join the forum but read the posts on a regular basis. I get e-mails fairly regularly from people interested in wing car information, buying wing car parts from me or having me build a wing car for them. All based on them reading the posts on these forums.

Basically, what we say and how we act has more influence than we might realize.

No, we didn't

However.....Rock Auto lists
2800327 reman @ $117.79 + $30 core

2810115 new $172.00

God Bless the Internet

Fast delivery, good people to deal with, DENSO



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-MINI-MOPAR-DODGE-PLYMOUTH-STARTER-SUPER-TORQUE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713Q2em153Q2el1 262QQcategoryZ33576QQihZ024QQitemZ370082232378




DANE

Ya think these will clear with headers

Ya think these will clear with headers


Is this one a Nippon Denso?
Doesn't say in the e-bay ad.

I would guess not since it says "Maximum torque with 4:1 'Denso' Gear Reduction Design."

I have not bought anything for "list" price that I can remember, EVER.

I PAID 286.80 FOR 2 NEW ONES, DELIVERED by UPS ground. USA MADE starters. Individuals will never get the pricing I receive through my company. So posting the numbers is futile.

Giving people the part number gets them what is necessary to find the part.

Once armed with the part number they can begin to shop price.

If that is not sufficient, I will stop posting part numbers.:yes:

I thought this was cover long aqgo in this post. A mini starter can be purchased from 44 Source for approximately $70.00 and will work as well as any other mini starter. I have there units on both my Hemi and my 440 six pack both of which are high compression engines (11.0-1 or higher.)

These are the keys: "will work as well as any other mini starter" and INSUFFICIENT research is THE process that contributes probably the most, to projects' failures, because research takes WAY too much time and effort...:grin:....:soda1:

Brandon from 440 is a good guy, he caters to the "budget minded" parts shoppers. Other companies produce the items he copies.:yes:

Some people prefer to get the "real deal", not a knockoff...:yes:

and having the origionals' part number, gives people the CHOICE....

as to YOUR basis, for YOUR choice of starters, with YOUR (high compression :rolling:) engines, I chose Keith Black over Mopar for a block, I chose Stage V for hemi heads over Mopar etc.....

CHOICE IS GOOD research MAKES THAT POSSIBLE...:yes:

(HAVING THE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF time and MONEY helps:grin::grin:)

SO I extensively research the items, :sFl_america2: compare the parts, and buy the most heavy duty, PROVEN RELIABLE, bullet proof item available. REAL CHEAP:tongueflap:

Lots of times these origional part numbers are REAL HARD to find...so I post them.

(Even the knuckleheads over at Moparts put these numbers in their PERMENANT "tech section" [when pointed out to them they had more errors on their website]...:grin::tongueflap:)

Hey guys, I need a recommendation. My 40 year old starter is finally getting a bit slow. I want to go to a mini starter but am not sure what brand would be best. I'm not looking for a real high end piece and compression is stock. I just need the brand that will give me dependable service.
Ron

Sorry, I thought I had aswerered the original poster's question above.

I didn't realize that there was a sub-thread going on regarding original parts vs. what he asked about.

Denso are not origional parts, you would have discovered that in your research.:grin:


IF THE PRICE IS TO HIGH HE HAS THE CHOICE. The best or one of the rest....:tongueflap:

Denso are not origional parts, you would have discovered that in your research.:grin:


IF THE PRICE IS TO HIGH HE HAS THE CHOICE. The best or one of the rest....:tongueflap:

Originally Posted by ronlyn426
Hey guys, I need a recommendation. My 40 year old starter is finally getting a bit slow. I want to go to a mini starter but am not sure what brand would be best. I'm not looking for a real high end piece and compression is stock. I just need the brand that will give me dependable service.
Ron

I was not doing research on these starters. I was simply giving my recommendation on the starter I have used in two different applications that I thought answered the original poster's question (above) pretty well based on how he posed it.
I have never use the starter you are suggesting, but have never had any problems with any of the three 440 Source mini starters I currently have. I can'T say if your recommendation is the BEST or not. What makes you believe your choice is the BEST?

Ya think these will clear with headers



We are running 3 of them with headers, that doesen't mean they will work with all headers, some may have a goofey design lol

Dane

We are running 3 of them with headers, that doesen't mean they will work with all headers, some may have a goofey design lol

Dane


Wull....they're headers. A goofy design is pretty much assured....isn't it??:edgy:

"What makes you believe your choice is the BEST?"

When people clone or make knock offs of their designs, is a good starter...

Industry mean time between failure is a good ranking method. Currently and constantly ranked #1 top.....

Lifetime warrantys.......anytime, anywhere just send in for replacment.... (just like all the premium parts I get from this supplier...)

I also like the fact that they (Nippon-Denso USA) are located and manufactured in NV USA.

"What makes you believe your choice is the BEST?"

When people clone or make knock offs of their designs, is a good starter...

Industry mean time between failure is a good ranking method. Currently and constantly ranked #1 top.....

Lifetime warrantys.......anytime, anywhere just send in for replacment.... (just like all the premium parts I get from this supplier...)

I also like the fact that they (Nippon-Denso USA) are located and manufactured in NV USA.



Fair enough.

omg-you people need to spend more time in your garages and less time in front of your computers. life's too short-stop jawing and get to work on your rides.

Um, isn't Nippon-Denso a Japanese manufacturer? Wether it is "made" in the USA or not, where are the primary pieces made and where do the dollars ultimately go?
Oh, and the Denso starters that I am using I got from Kragen for sixty bucks. They are the same rebuilder number as the Mopar Performance starter. (Which is a Denso)

I'm just saying.

Rev.

Post the number for everyone Rev.:wtg:

Doh' How did I know someone was going to ask that.
I'll dig up the number and post it here. I think it's a 1766N, but I could be wrong. I'll find the number....

Rev.

Post what they had to change on it to make a "new and improved" model.

We all know how great some of the aftermarket "el cheapos" fit.....like the terminals hitting the block or belhousing....

I have a starter on my '66 Satellite with a 12.5:1 440, that I purchased from Dodge as a replacement starter that fits the '94 thru whatever Dodge pickups that fits (little tight on the terminals, but fits with no modifications), with my TTI headers, turns the engine over perfectly, and only cost me $75. Of course, that was "at cost", but I've been using it for 8 years and never fails to turn my 12.5:1 engine over. I've seen them at Kragen for as low as $64.99. I would be comfortable with one of those rebuilt cheapies. They aren't hard to rebuild, it's just personal preference. My next one will probably be a junk yard special I rebuild myself. Please, everyone just go buy a starter and quit fighting over NOTHING!!

Uuumm.....dude? Did you notice the date on the last post in this thread? It was over a year and a half ago

I noticed, but you never know when someone else thinks they need to put their 2 cents (complaint) in. Anyway, you replied, so it must not be dead after all, Admin or not. My 2 cents will hopefully help someone actually wanting it later on.

I replied cause any time a thread is replied to, it comes back to the top. As Admin I check up on everything going on to make sure everyone is playing nice, and spam is kept out.

And I replied because sometimes people (especially new folk) may not notice the dates on the threads they're responding to.

Does anyone else besides denso and 440 source make a mini starter?

Ah ha! And someone in need!


Keeper, try Powermaster, MSD, Proform, Summit Racing, TCI, Tilton Engineering, Meziere, Tuff Stuff Performance, CSR, and of course Mopar Performance. Some of them sell the non adjustable (can't index the housing) type and some do for really odd or tight fitting headers.

any of those in the same price range as 440 source (non indexing)?

any mopar 360/ 318 starter from the 90's will work as a mini starter 25 bucks at alot of junk yards

That's where mine came from and I've been using it for over 10 years now. I believe it was pulled from a 318 Dakota. I know I took a chance with a used starter but it has worked out for me. Be your own judge!!!

I just bought a $35.00 junkyard starter off a mid 90's pickup, for my 440 GTX and it works great! never started better.