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Propwash

01-19-2012, 12:57 PM

All I can say is..............It's Fricken Cold Here!!!!!! People were wondering where winter was, well suprise...Got a kick in the face of it this morning when the air temp and windchill were well below zero. Didn't catch the temp or windchill but I know it's below zero seeing as soon as you walk out the door, the snot instantly freezes in your nose. Nice thermometer eh?

Well been off for the past few days and have had a lot of time to pluck away on the roadrunner...The doors, fenders, hood and trunk lid are pretty much done. I have one more guide coat to block out yet but I think after that, any other leveling will be taken care of by the paint and then wet sanding. I still have to bottom 2/3 of the quarters to skim and block..7 1/2 feet of vertical fun.

Figured I mention the 71' GTX in the pic's. Guy who owns it, bought it himself brand new in 1971. It is a factory 4spd, air grabber car with the hemi orange paint, original everything including the 440. The car has 54,000 miles on it. Pretty neat huh!

Progress!!!!!!!

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/w2-10.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/w3-7.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/w4-3.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/w5-2.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/w1-11.jpg

moparstuart

01-19-2012, 01:42 PM

nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

dave5237

01-19-2012, 05:13 PM

Hey propwash. Nice find. Maybe we could trade engines. My 68 GTX has a 440 high performance raised block from 69. I too am a year off ( just kidding ).

wannadrag

01-19-2012, 07:29 PM

Looking good Will,those rims look familiar.And for the weather lets just say i wished they would of held off another week before calling me back.

northerndave

01-19-2012, 08:11 PM

Very cool Will.

Ron 73

01-19-2012, 08:27 PM

X 2 Dave! Thanks Will, Looking great for sure, and im not quite as cold here as you, were tempting single did-gets but so far 12 degrees at night, Its 15 now with wind/snow out there tonight soooo, wind chill and 15 degrees= Throw another chunk of wood in! ;)

Propwash

01-19-2012, 08:30 PM

Hey thanks Fella's!

You bet those are the rims I swapped out with you Jay. They look pretty good on the car besides the wrangler ATR and destination A/T rubber that's on them LOL. Heck of a week to go back to work. Making good ice at least. Hopefully i'll be out on the lake this weekend..

At this point i'm kind of glad the original engine was long gone from the car Dave5237. It made it a lot easier to make the decision to go with a mod's to upgrade the car. I have nothing at all against Original cars, luv'em, but it has honestly a lot of fun bringing this car back, picking and choosing all the options and upgrades I want on the car without feeling guilty.

Nothing like a warm crackling fire on cold winter night Ron!! One part of winter I enjoy. Send some of that snow this way.

Paints not too far down the road gent's....

Propwash

01-22-2012, 10:17 PM

Found a little time to putz around with some roadrunner stuff this weekend...Splash shields. It's kind of tinker toy stuff compared to some of the other surgery I had to perform on the car, but hey...at least I got to do what I truely love about restoration---Metal Work!! After a couple hours dinking around with these, I really started pondering that I need to find me another mopar to start cutting/welding/grinding on...hehehehhehe!

my shields.......covered in factoy undercoat and rust...beautiful! Theeeeeeeee best way i've found to get factory undercoating off is not torches and scrappers, wirewheels or some funky spray can of magic from eastwood, even the media blaster fights with the stuff. What works? A I R N E E D L E G U N.. I'd say 2 minutes a side, and all the black tar devil was popped/pushed off the shields like butta.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a1-8.jpg

Rotton! Cardboard template time.....

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a2-8.jpg

Like I said....piddly stuff, but it was still fun hanging out in the garage with my favorite piece of rust.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a3-8.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a4-7.jpg

I was trying to stretch out my precious time in the garage, but avast the wife came with her biblical scrolls of honey to do's........Anybody need help with installing ceiling fans, i've installed six in this money pit..yeah Six!! No lie..

All patched up. lips, corners, bends, holes and all. Even got the funky ridge on the top back in there..........The other side just had a couple small patches, and I welded in a new box nut. Didn't bother snapping pic's

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a5-5.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a6-4.jpg

Have a good week fella's.

myke1971

01-23-2012, 05:12 AM

I had the number 2 68 of the line-b-5 blue,383,inland 4 spd. Lynchplant 1964 to 1996 retired. Good find.

Propwash

01-23-2012, 07:33 AM

Thanks Myke

northerndave

01-23-2012, 08:39 AM

looking good prop.

I took the weekend off and parked the fish house out on lake of the woods, we did some family ice fishing saturday and sunday. I cleaned 32 fish over the weekend. Lots of fun and now my boys have got their ice fishing fix.

Walleye, sauger and big perch.

Good eat'n.

I need to get me one of them needle descaler guns like you have.

I have tons of that undercoating on my car too.

Propwash

01-23-2012, 10:58 AM

Thanks! Sounds like a good weekend Dave. I'm jealous. Wish I could find some time to hit up the ice. Heck, i'd be happy if I could just take the ski-doo for a 1/2 hour spin down the trails. Weather is just garbage this year. Gearing up for sturgeon spearing, but that isn't for another few weeks....Uggg.

I bought the Ingersol Rand model off tool topia. Works great for exfoliation rust and undercoat, but doesn't do much for the fine surface rust. Grinder/High speed sander is my weapon of choice on that.

Good to hear someone is doing good out on the ice!

northerndave

01-23-2012, 11:57 AM

I've had good luck with my IR tools, I might have to check that out.

this past weekend's "80% chance of snow" missed us clean, once again it slid south missing us completely.

No snow, it sucks bad.

4 snowmobiles and a big ski dozer just sitting in the yard.

:(

We hook and line sturgeon in the spring, incredibly strong fish, I imagine they are a freeking handful with a spear in them! lol!

:grin:

Propwash

01-23-2012, 08:40 PM

You bet! One heck of a fight...

I've also always had good luck with IR....Besides a couple Snap On air tools, the other 90% are Ingersoll Rand.

Ron 73

01-23-2012, 09:02 PM

I smoke a lot of fish, and seeing you fellas talking of a sturgeon, i though id show you this one i seen some time ago. This is a Chinese sturgeon, a heck of a fight this one could be i guess at 15 foot and up to 1,000 pds. This one will not fit in my smoker guys, hope you enjoy it! Your parts you did there Will, really look real nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td9DVngHpm4

Propwash

01-23-2012, 09:30 PM

WOW!! Huge....Yeah I think you're right Ron. May have a problem fitting that in your smoker. LOL Thanks for posting that. I'm suprised the chinese did anything to save any kind of native wild animal. I guess just the "Sacred" ones get saved over there.

es1758

01-24-2012, 08:45 PM

Looks good Prop, if you dont mind me asking what brand on air needle gun do you run? I got a whole car with factory undercoating and am thinking I will be buying one here soon.

Propwash

01-24-2012, 11:38 PM

Looks good Prop, if you dont mind me asking what brand on air needle gun do you run? I got a whole car with factory undercoating and am thinking I will be buying one here soon.

No problem es1758...Here you go buddy:

http://www.tooltopia.com/ingersoll-rand-125.aspx

Best of luck on your project.

Dave Pratt

01-25-2012, 07:15 AM

Sonny Black

01-25-2012, 07:50 AM

I am, well ............ amazing build prop!

you have my respect,

Sonny

Propwash

01-25-2012, 08:37 AM

Man I feel like I just ran a marathon after getting through these 52 pages! Wow what a build Prop...I'm new to the muscle car ownership side of things but have loved them all my life.Just picked up a 70 RR with 59,800 miles on it last March and am just starting to put my own foot print on it starting with an upgrade to the suspension...I've learned a ton from your work or from watching the resto...thanks big-time!...Dave

LOL! Thanks Dave! Yeah it's quite the journey going through the whole thing. The wife said I could publish a book on it because it will be a novel by the time it's all said and done..LOL........I wasn't going to post the resto on the roadrunner at first, but i'm glad I did. It's great for me to see how far its come and keeps the motivation train a rolling, but I think it shows all the time, love, work and respect for the car a guy has to endure to realistically bring these cars back to life. The biggest reason i'm glad I posted it up is all the great people i've met and friends i've made by taking advice, giving advice and sharing stories along the way. I'll openly admit that this car would not be where it is today if it wasn't for this great website and all the great folks on it. Thanks for taking the time to go through it and many congrat's on your purchase of the 70'. Beautiful Car you have there!!We'll see you around the site.

I am, well ............ amazing build prop!

you have my respect,

Sonny

Thanks a bunch Sonny! I also appreciate your time to go through and enjoy the build. I'm gonna keep the wheels a rolling and keep posting the progress as much as possible...Paints coming soon and spring is not too far down the road. I think I can finally see some light on the horizon. Take Care

Propwash

01-25-2012, 09:55 PM

Hey guys...Kind of off subject here, but I thought it was pretty neat.....

First off I can never match the hidden treasure skills of Detmatt...Indiana Jones I tell ya.

Yesterday I responded to a Craigslist ad for "War Stuff". I spoke breifly with the older gentleman and went over to his place tonight to check out what he had. Turns out the 90 year old guy is a WWII vet and was in the Army Air Corps as an Aircraft Mechanic. He didn't have much stuff left, but still had these acft gauges below. I thought they were pretty neat so I picked them up for $40 bucks. No idea if they're worth anything but what a huge piece of history to have.

Top center is a Tach from a P-51D Mustang. One on the left is a Coolant Temp Guage from a P-38E Lightning. Bottom center is a Pilot Deviation Indicator from a B-17G and the one on the right is a Landing Gear Indicator from a B-25G Mitchell. Gave me some old Army tech guides/installation manuals as well as cockpit views to show the guages. The guages are stamped for their acft as well

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/w1-3.jpg

Pretty cool eh? Best part was just shooting the breeze and having a beer with the guy.
Being a USAF aircraft mechanic vet and an aviator myself, the old chap and I had quite a few stories to share..I had a few good ones but his were like something out of a movie.
Kinda neat.....two vets from two distant generations talking like we new each other for years. It was a good time.

Thought about making up an instrument panel for them and mounting it out in the man cave........So thanks for checking out the off subject post.... just thought it was pretty cool.

Finallygotmine

01-26-2012, 01:16 AM

That's cool stuff Prop. My Dad was in the Army Air Corps in the 2nd WW and was stationed on Saipan. He was a radio tech working on the B-29s I think. Lots of stories to be sure. That generation is almost gone and will be a pity when they are.

northerndave

01-26-2012, 06:35 AM

that's very cooll Will.

72Satellite440

01-26-2012, 08:58 AM

some very cool history there-

blackblazer717

01-26-2012, 01:39 PM

I always rock the needle scaler for removing undercoat

Ron 73

01-26-2012, 05:50 PM

Wow prop, i love those vintage aircraft, That would be cool to have them Made up like you said. That P-51D Mustang, One beautiful plane, all were but i guess the P-51 was always my favorite plane of my models and gas powered toys years ago, along side of the German Stuka bomber.. Thanks for posting those!

Propwash

01-26-2012, 07:38 PM

No problem Ron....Glad you guys enjoys them.

roadrunnerman

01-29-2012, 05:47 PM

Propwash

01-29-2012, 08:38 PM

hey will,just catching up on your resto.looking good,those rims will look good on your car.those aircraft guages are cool,can only imagine the stories behind those on the plane that flew in the war.those would be priceless.just a question,what did you ever do will the slots that were on your RR when you first got it?

Good to hear from you Roger. Hope everthing is going good on your end. I hear you on the gauges. Can't help but think about all the crazy senario's that must have played out for the pilots that used them and the planes they were sitting in.

As far as the rims, I traded Wannadrag for the steel cragers that are on the car now..I now a lot of folks like them, but didn't really fit my tastes. You might be seeing them on a 68' GTX soon by the sound of it.

You take care and hopefully you can get a little R & R with the family and your roadrunner soon.

welder47

01-30-2012, 06:45 AM

I needled my splash shields also and found out the rust was just too bad and junked them. And after looking at the prices of replacements, got a headache and made my own that actually fit correctly. I always wondered who at chrysler decided to do this instead of just putting a inner wheel well in the car. I also started saving my old needles and tig welding a blob of steel on the end instead of constantly buying new ones.

Propwash

01-30-2012, 08:10 AM

And after looking at the prices of replacements, got a headache

I hear you there!! I actually got a set of new replacements I picked up down at Jefferson last spring, but I think I got desperate to fix some old rotton metal and brought the old ones back. I was stunned how pricey they are. Must have been quite a project whipping up all those funky angles to match the bolt pattern..Got any pic's how they turned out Russ?

Good idea on the needles...Gotta say the needles on the Ingersoll are holding up real well, but welding on fresh metal sure would save some cash...

welder47

01-30-2012, 11:50 AM

They are all blasted full of undercoat now so no pics. All it took was about 8 hours with cardboard templets and crawling in and out about 200 times with the metal to make adjustments lol. And recently I took in trade a 71 Z28, 454, 5 speed hot rod as partial payment on a nova I had. So of course they are both being worked on at the same time. I just cant leave shit alone, the car was fine the way it was but wasnt mine as I put it to the old lady, have to change some stuff you know. And yes just because I have mopars doesnt mean I dont like other brands also. Chrysler never gave me a ring so Im not totaly faithful to them. And to top it off Im also building a engine test stand to fire my engines on before they go in, took well over a hour to explain the logic of this one to the females living here who think all mechanical stuff works perfectly all the time lol.

70Fish

01-30-2012, 02:23 PM

Prop, Jefferson, WI? Man, that's a big swap, but lots of walking to do with all the camo gear, and other crapola I saw there. Ironically, that was the only thing I did buy at Jefferson was a set of E Body splash shields.

Good work on the metal fab.

Welder, the splash shields are made of plastic on an E Body so yeah, they got it right on those :D

I hear you there!! I actually got a set of new replacements I picked up down at Jefferson last spring, but I think I got desperate to fix some old rotton metal and brought the old ones back. I was stunned how pricey they are. Must have been quite a project whipping up all those funky angles to match the bolt pattern..Got any pic's how they turned out Russ?

Good idea on the needles...Gotta say the needles on the Ingersoll are holding up real well, but welding on fresh metal sure would save some cash...

Propwash

01-30-2012, 02:47 PM

Nothing wrong with owning another brand Russ...I know some folks around here are die hard mopar or no car, but nothing wrong with having a decent ford/chev in the garage. Myself I would love to have a 58' Impala or a 41' Willy's. In the end Mopar is my first choice though. I gave up the idea of trying to explain car logic to women along time ago. Kinda like the wife trying to explain why it's necessary to own 11 pairs of shoe's. The information is there, but it doesn't click. At least she understands that cars are something I love and gives me my space with them. Sounds like those splash shields were a heck of a task!

I hear you on the Jefferson show Fish!!! Honestly they should start calling that the annual Camaro and Mustang show. For a guy looking for Mopar parts, it's like a needle in a haystack. Not to mention all the absolute junk people drag there and try to sell as something special. Not like it was several years back. The splash shields I found at a chevrolet tent. They had a sign on them saying "mopar tin" with an unhappy face on the sign. The guy said they got ordered by mistake. I was happy to take them off their hands.

Well boys........after wrapping up that last bit of block/prime on the quarters over the weekend, I can say it's time for me to hand over the reigns on the roadrunner to the painter.....don't know what i'm gonna do with myself :-(

All panels have been filed, skimmed, blocked, primed, blocked, guide coated, primed, sealed, blocked and final primed...

SKELETOR IS READY FOR PAINT

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/r1-7.jpg

wannadrag

01-30-2012, 04:07 PM

Will,still going with black?Local place painting it?

northerndave

01-30-2012, 05:45 PM

Dooooooooood!!

It's getting so close!

roadrunnerman

01-30-2012, 06:06 PM

i know, i can hardly wait to see it done.

roadrunnerman

01-30-2012, 06:08 PM

forgot to add, i think when will gets this car done he should print off this thread on paper and publish it, i for one would buy and use it as a "how to book reference guide"

northerndave

01-30-2012, 07:10 PM

yeah no kidding.

Ron 73

01-30-2012, 09:41 PM

"SKELETOR IS READY FOR PAINT"
Id like to tell you relax while the painter has it, but i know that wont happen, maybe you'll get lucky and get a good snow storm! Warm the snowmobile up, wax on and ready..

Propwash

01-30-2012, 11:12 PM

Thanks a bunch fella's!!! Great to know all you guys have been along for the ride on this one. I really do appreciate it! I know I still have a ton of work to do before she'll ever be tearing up the pavement, but i'm hoping it's safe to say the meat and potato's of the resto is now behind me.

It's funny you bring up "publishing a book" on the thread Roger. The wife was just hounding me tonight about this thread turning into a novel..LOL. She said to name it "going crazy...gone broke" LOL. Have to give her credit, thought it was pretty funny as well as accurate.

The car is down at Motion in Neenah Jay. Still going with black. Ever since Dave posted that black roadrunner pic, that image has been burned in my head. Glad to be following suit to the old man's black 69' RR he had as well. You guys should see the man...Feels like i'm the old timer and he's all of a sudden a 10 year old pie eyed kid drooling over the car every time he gets around it. Kinda looks live Dave's boy after pulling the walleye out of the ice...LOL

Ron, you know me too well buddy. Didn't take very long and i'm already tearing into more stuff. I tell ya....once a guy gets a momentum going, it's hard to stop. Or maybe i'm just compulsive? LOL! I ripped the heater box to pieces, blasted what metal I could and started to replace all the seals. Got a new heater core waiting to go in as well. One thing I also decided to do is convert the ammeter to a volt gauge. I should have thought it out a bit earlier, but decided to go with the Powermaster 140 one wire altenator, which pretty much requires a bypass or conversion (Fire hazard). So....ripped the dash back apart tonight and pulled the cluster. I'm about halfway done and will post some pic's tomorrow of the full conversion.

Thanks again guys! Now to play the waiting game.

'69Net

01-30-2012, 11:32 PM

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Revhendo

01-31-2012, 07:13 AM

It's funny you bring up "publishing a book" on the thread Roger. The wife was just hounding me tonight about this thread turning into a novel..LOL. She said to name it "going crazy...gone broke" LOL. Have to give her credit, thought it was pretty funny as well as accurate.

Pretty good title there. I was going to suggest,
"Dr. Will Strangelove. Or, How I learned to start welding and love the bomb."

Awesome work, can't wait to see the shiny side.

Dave Pratt

01-31-2012, 08:12 AM

Will if you do end up putting this build down as a book or something along those lines I'm in for a copy! Like I said before,I've learned a ton from your resto...very cool work

Propwash

01-31-2012, 10:58 AM

Pretty good title there. I was going to suggest,
"Dr. Will Strangelove. Or, How I learned to start welding and love the bomb."

Awesome work, can't wait to see the shiny side.

Bawhahahaha....Man that's hilarious!!!

Will if you do end up putting this build down as a book or something along those lines I'm in for a copy! Like I said before,I've learned a ton from your resto...very cool work

Now that folks are bringing it up Dave....I'll look into this. Maybe get a couple dozen put together and send out to the folks that have been helping out, adding their 2 cents, and been with along the way. Add all the posts on the thread, maybe a few more pic's I haven't added to the thread and possibly add in more in depth descriptions along the way..

Thanks guys!

northerndave

01-31-2012, 01:13 PM

Propwash

01-31-2012, 02:51 PM

It would be very interesting Will. Both as a book itself and also the process of converting a forum thread to book format.

I have a post that went monster sized on a hunting/fishing forum that's over 3.5 million views. I've had many people ask me about turning it into a book but I simply wouldn't know where to start.

3.5 million...WOW! Right now there's some eskimo floating around on an iceburg reading Dave's thread..

Same senario here Dave as far as trying to find direction....If you come up with any ideas or tips, let me know. Folks probably wouldn't want something I conjured up. We'd all end up with construction paper and stick people..LOL

northerndave

01-31-2012, 03:07 PM

Propwash

01-31-2012, 03:13 PM

Same here lol... If i ever did anything with my deer camp thread I'd have to just hand it over as is to a writer/pulisher and see if they can wade through the junk and make something out of it.

This roadrunner project you have here I think could be captured in book form well enough.

"Well I tore this apart and found that, so i did this... then I noticed that... so did this... decided on this here.." so on and so forth :grin:

LOL...No doubt. Maybe I could add in a revolving bank account meter and we could watch it plummet into a exploding fireball on the last page. Maybe even a sound effect deal like the Hallmark cards....Or hey...A Wife/Car Morale meter...We're in the red folks!!!

rrTor-Red

01-31-2012, 03:46 PM

roadrunnerman

01-31-2012, 04:20 PM

will,maybe you can talk to the local paper or if you have a favorite author whose books you like to read, then send them an e-mail and ask them how they got their stories printed. I can't speak for everone, but maybe you can get some of us to go in as investers. just as long as it doesn't go higher than a gazillion dollars,anything under that and we can talk.Also maybe check with a barnes & noble bookstore. they might have some ideas also. Just throwing some ideas at ya.

Propwash

01-31-2012, 10:17 PM

Prop. It took me a little while to figure out "Propwash". I had a feeling but, not for sure. We have another thing in common except Mopars. I try to catch the updates on this thread and FBBO in general but it gets hard when I'm so far away from home and my beloved Mopar.

Anyway, your build is an inspiration to all here also, with other members giving advice, etc. Heck even some of the guys I work and see daily are getting hooked on this thread. They'll ask if there's anything new on your thread. I just tell them yeah, but you should join yourself...lol

I appreciate you following the thread rrTor-Red and thanks for the compliment. Pretty neat to know the car has a fan club, even with folks that are not connected to this thread/site like you guys are...

Glad to meet another aviation guy on here..Flying them, fixing them, drawing them, and just talking about them...pretty much a nut about them. My nickname I aquired in the Air Force. My F-15 was at the end of the flightline where the flightline took a 90* turn for the main inbound-outbound taxi way, including heavy's..Needless to say it was always pretty windy in my world. One day a C-130 on the go got the best of me. Just imagine a leaf pile and a leaf blower...LOL That's when my bud's decided to bless me with that name..

will,maybe you can talk to the local paper or if you have a favorite author whose books you like to read, then send them an e-mail and ask them how they got their stories printed. I can't speak for everone, but maybe you can get some of us to go in as investers. just as long as it doesn't go higher than a gazillion dollars,anything under that and we can talk.Also maybe check with a barnes & noble bookstore. they might have some ideas also. Just throwing some ideas at ya.

Great ideas Roger!! Gives me something to roll on, that's for sure. Thanks for your willingness to help and start putting something on paper. Rev had a couple pretty dang funny tittle's for a book, but I would be real interested in some of the ideas all you other guys could come up with...Thanks again!

Propwash

01-31-2012, 10:57 PM

So I said I would post on the ammeter to Voltmeter conversion, so here they are....

Just to recap just a bit, I'm going this route because I'm going to a powermaster 140 one wire alternator as well as I don't want to sit and worry about this car going up in smoke

First off a couple pieces of the old ammeter....Pretty nuts isn't it?? This car had a 50 amp alternator when I pulled it out (nothing special), and who knows how close this came to lighting the dash up in flames.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a1-9.jpg

Check out the heat affected zone on this....Obviously this metal got pretty hot!

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a2-9.jpg

Got a little a head of myself before pulling out the camera, but this is the Sunpro 2" Voltmeter (P/N CP8205), with it's guts ripped. To pull out the old meter, take off the two pal nuts for the fuel gauge (face plate overlaps the face plate for the ammeter), then take off the nuts for the ammeter..walla!
you'll need to drill out two very small rivets to seperate the factory faceplate from the ammeter. I used a cutting wheel to cut slots in the voltmeter case. Made the sealed unit come apart real easy.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a3-9.jpg

The center to center holes n the back of the cluster assembly are further apart than the sunpro studs, but the voltmeters studs are smaller so they slide right down in the holes..

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a4-8.jpg

Being the studs of the volmeter ride real close to the inside of the cluster housing holes, I covered a good chunk of the studs with heat shrink as well as liquid electrical tape on the transition just to make sure there is no chance it can arc to the housing

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a5-6.jpg

I cut the original shorter needle off the sunpro at its base, cut the old one of the factory ammeter and used some JB Kwik Weld to secure in place on the new meter.
I also had to trim down a little finger on the plastic meter housing about an 1/8" of an inch which is used to hold the original sunpro face plate from sitting on the electrical wiring/solder on the unit. Makes the mopar faceplate stick out a bit too far.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a6-5.jpg

I had to do some trimming on the original faceplate with a dremel to fit the meter in correctly. One this meter is secured from the backside, it doesn't budge so I didn't secure in any other manner from the inside. Also the face place is overlaped by the fuel gauge faceplate, so that hold it in place as well.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a7-4.jpg

Here's how she looks with the cluster lense installed...You cannot notice any kind of modifications from the outside..The need can be adjusted for a different starting point by just turning a little cam on the backside of the magnet on the guage. The needle right now sits a bit higher than the other bottomed out gauges. Not really that noticable at all.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a8-2.jpg

This is at 12.75 volts...Like I mentioned you can adjust the needle starting point on the voltmeter... I set mine up to read like this being the powermaster puts out a regulated 13.2 volts and that should center the needle in the gauge. Also being the studs are a bit undersized for the holes, you can twist the unit one way or another when loosing it up from the backside and tweek the needle to meet center if need be

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a9-2.jpg

Here's the back...The heat shrink runs right up to the top of the nut. It also slides through the through wall grommets in the bracket, thus no arc's. The bracket came with the voltmeter for securing the gauge in a housing, I just cut off the ends. I'll probably dabble on some liquid electical tape on the bracket around the washers as well. Like mentioned, the through wall grommets work great for protecting a short.. I'll run another nut on top and a star washer to secure the wires.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a10.jpg

A good idea to do on the backside is write on a + and -, being the positive is opposite what the factory has stamped on the back of the case. I also indicated the change over seeing you never know if the car may fall in someone eles hands someday.. I will take the two original wires that use to run to the ammeter, solder them together and heat shrink over. I also plan on drilling out the male/female connection in the bulhead for the wire coming in, run the wire straight through, solder together and heat shrink install a inline fuse.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a12.jpg

So there it is.......If you were thinking about spending the $150-$200 after shipping with Redline (nothing against them), here's another option where you'll spend about $17 bucks on the voltmeter and maybe an hour or two depending on your skill level. I know for me this really gives me a good piece of mind I don't have to worry about any issues in that area any more. Hope it helps some one out someday....

Ron 73

02-01-2012, 10:51 AM

If i manage to get that project Will, You'll love the fishing here, ya know (devious look here).. Its like looking at a resto manual on line.. Only in better detail! That waiting game seems to be bringing you some added benefits, im sure its well worth the wait following along here and seeing the things you do waiting. Great job.

Finallygotmine

02-01-2012, 10:13 PM

My F-15 was at the end of the flightline where the flightline took a 90* turn for the main inbound-outbound taxi way, including heavy's..Needless to say it was always pretty windy in my world. One day a C-130 on the go got the best of me. Just imagine a leaf pile and a leaf blower...LOL That's when my bud's decided to bless me with that name..

Reminds me of a story of my Dads where he said they would send the new guys to supply to get a bucket of propwash and have the newbies running all over base looking for it.
We did the same thing for newbie radio operators, we sent them looking for a pint of "frequency grease" LOL

I obtained the nickname "D-bag" in the Corps. No, not that kind of 'D' bag. The kind of device that holds a parachute. I was making a jump at Ft Bragg with the Army doggies and the Navy Corpsman who jumped out before me was an accomplished skydiver. He had jumped out of the 141 and left his static line flopping all over the place. Me being a good Marine, jumped out and tucked my chin to my chest, trapping the previous line. Well, about 8-10 feet of 1 inch nylon rope zipped across my neck and then the "D-Bag" attached to it, hit me in the side of the face and almost knocked me out. It did knock my helmet off at 1200 ft. When I got to the ground, after untwisting my risers, I could feel my neck burning. I had a 4x6 rug burn on my neck. My Gunny couldn't resist laughing his ass off and calling me "d-bag" for the rest of my time there. Gotta love your fellow serviceman. LOL

detmatt1

02-02-2012, 04:54 AM

Hey congrats Prop! Skeletor is ready for paint, way to fast track that project! I'm envious, can't wait to see it painted.

Propwash

02-02-2012, 08:43 AM

Thanks Matt...Me as well!!!

Great story Daryn!! Always enjoy other peoples war stories. I go down to the VFW now and then, not for just the 25 cent tappers, but just to listen to the old timers and some of the stuff they gotta say. Pretty amazing stuff.

'69Net

02-02-2012, 10:00 PM

thanks matt...me as well!!!

Great story daryn!! Always enjoy other peoples war stories. I go down to the vfw now and then, not for just the 25 cent tappers, but just to listen to the old timers and some of the stuff they gotta say. Pretty amazing stuff.

more?????????????????

MarPar

02-03-2012, 02:55 AM

I write this 9 Leinie's into it so pardon me if i ramble....lol :soda1:

I've loved watchin' you bring da old bird back...:upside down::upside down::upside down:

Her second life will be a proper resurrection!!!

ok, so i'm up a bit late :lotsocoffee:, but i finally got a few nonconsecutive days off from work, so i'm livin' it up!!!!:sixpack: :pimp_daddy:

and i won a few good auction items today (for da business) ...so i'm celebrating that too!! :icon_santa:

awesome work brotha, keep it up!!!

rrTor-Red

02-03-2012, 02:35 PM

Will/Prop:

I'm out of the country, in a foriegn contry thats in turmoil...boy, just about ALL countries are in turmoil outside the good ol USA!.

One of the guys I work with said this..."that chap has performed a bloody exorsism of the rust on that car"...he's from England...lol...thought that was funny. He is one of a few who asks about the status on your car.

Propwash

02-03-2012, 09:44 PM

Thanks Mario!! Leinenkugel's you say? MMMMMmmmm. Sounds good right about now....Gotta say, you're a man with some class

Seen some pic's of your new building and your fleet. One heck of an operation you got going on down there. Again, Congrat's! Thanks for the kind words and following along. You've definitely been around for the long haul on this one.

Good to hear from you rrTor-Red! That "exorsism" line is hilarious....Brit's always have a clever way of explaining things. He may get a kick out of this... Over in Afghanistan, very shortly after 9/11, we had this Sir Winston Churchill quote painted on the right wing root panel on my F-15: "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it..."

Hey buddy...Be safe in your worldly travels...Lotta sharks out there.

rrTor-Red

02-04-2012, 03:22 AM

Prop:

Thats striking familiar that you were in Afghanistan because thats were I'm at right now. Being a member of FBBO sure helps to kep my sanity from the chaos that I see/experience.
My England friend asked "whats a Mopar?"...lol. So, I had to try and explain to him and to others. They can relate to the rust issues and you can imagine. I think that thats probably the main reason they are interested in what your updates are on your car because I've seen a few pictures of cars all rusty from other countries. Heck, I've seen some that had holes the size of soccer balls in it.

Take care Prop and all members. I hope to be home soon and to further my progress on my car as well.

MarPar

02-04-2012, 07:25 AM

Propwash

02-04-2012, 05:21 PM

spreading the MoPar gospel

LMAO........"The Mopar Gospel"

Alleluia Brother!!!

Take care Fella's...

welder47

02-06-2012, 07:28 AM

Yea Will your lucky that blast didnt send you over the side, the fall from those ships isnt easy to survive from. I was a destroyer guy in the navy and had a close call one night on the way to the gulf. Me and anoughther guy were on fantail watch one night, it was rough that night but didnt seem horrible out. Out of nowhere the biggest wave Ive ever seen covered half the ship. Somehow we got slammed into the rear cannon and managed to grab the end of the gun. That one little stroke of luck saved us from being lost at sea for good. Of course we were the ones watching for overboards that night so who would have reported it. And here I sit messing with old cars now lol.

Propwash

02-06-2012, 10:14 PM

Wow....You're a lucky man Russ. That's nuts. Never had to worry about falling off a ship, being I was USAF. I got a tour of the USS Roosevelt and saw what the USN calls home at sea. Not for me, don't know how you boys do 6 months of that at a clip. I'll stick with the old G.I. tent and a 5 foot cot, parked in the sandbox..At least a guy has a little more space to himself.

Little work done here recently, while I count the drawn out seconds till the RR is painted. Riped apart the heater box, blasted all the metal doors/back tin, painted those with hi-temp cast blast, and installed a new heater core. Blew a whopping $3 bucks on some extreme weather weather stripping seal that I cut to fit. Adhesive backed but I still ran a bead of Gorilla snot weatherstrip glue along the back. $3 bucks sure beats the $30-40 bucks some folks are charging for a heater box seal kit.

The two wires off the heater blower motor are hacked. One dark green, the other Black. I'm guessing the green goes to the heater blower motor resistor in the front of the box. The black to ground? Anyone confirm this?

Here's a couple pic's. Didn't get too liberal with the camera on the rebuild. Pretty self explainatory..

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s1-5.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s2-4.jpg

Tic...Toc......Tic.....Toc..............

'69Net

02-06-2012, 10:56 PM

Good work Prop....like the cot in the sand bit by the way.....

and tic toc tic toc........I'm waiting on parts arriving from far far away stopping me....

Propwash

02-06-2012, 11:09 PM

Thanks '69 Net.... I can't imagine waiting weeks on end for everything you order for the car, not to mention just finding the parts and then finding someone that will ship the parts on top of that.. You fella's from oversea's have to be some pretty patient folks, that's for sure.

Ron 73

02-06-2012, 11:44 PM

The dark green one on my schematic says heater resistor... I can only guess that the black is ground?

Propwash

02-07-2012, 03:18 PM

Thanks Ron....That's what I'm guessing as well

Sneak Peek.......

Swung by the shop today....Roadrunner is in paint. She still is going to get another sand down and polish, according to the painter...So, here's a little peek...................

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/sq.jpg

TheSwede

02-07-2012, 03:46 PM

Damn Will! It is a beauty! :sunny:

smyythe68

02-07-2012, 05:47 PM

Looks incredible! Like an oil slick, congrats. Soon the fun of bolting parts on will begin.

Dave Pratt

02-07-2012, 08:04 PM

Gulp! That's flat-out wicked Will...git er dunn!

northerndave

02-07-2012, 08:11 PM

Holy! holeeee! Hoe-Leeee!

Very happy for you Will, she's going to be STUNNING!

Ron 73

02-07-2012, 08:31 PM

Sweet!!!

es1758

02-07-2012, 08:37 PM

Dang man that thing is a beauty, hard work pay off big time. Cant wait to see her done!!!!

'69Net

02-07-2012, 10:32 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..

detmatt1

02-08-2012, 05:08 AM

Holy Sh#t Prop! It looks like ripples would flow outwards from where you touched it.
FANFREAKINGTASTIC!!!!!

Propwash

02-08-2012, 01:13 PM

Thanks a bunch fella's!!!! And thanks for all the help/motivation along the way to get to this point. I owe all you guys. Sure is a good feeling seeing paint finally. It's definitely been a long twisty road, but there's light on the horizon now.

I'll snap some more pic's when the she's reassembled and the stripes are on. Ol' Skeletor has an appointment next Thursday for the Vinyl top to be put on. I'll try to sneek in some pic's before she leaves for that.

70Fish

02-08-2012, 01:35 PM

Now that's purty, Prop!

Propwash

02-08-2012, 07:44 PM

Thanks Fish!!

MarPar

02-08-2012, 09:06 PM

Hot Damn, Will!!! that looks bad ass!!!

man, it feels good to see color on da old bird...was tired of seein her gray! lol

:penguins paint pixi
congrats, brother!! you'll be tearin' tires off her in no time! :3gears:

Propwash

02-08-2012, 09:37 PM

LOL!! Me too buddy...Me too. The grey was getting a little old.

After seeing her in paint, I'm totally glad I went with black. Love it! Just sitting in the booth with the panels off, the car still looked like mischief waiting to happen.

Can't wait to get the bird on the road...ways to go yet. I gotta make it down to your neck of the woods when she's road ready. Gotta get Black Sheep a ride in the Black Bird!
Fire up your GTX, swing by Detroit, Kidknapp Matt and go tear up Woodward!

detmatt1

02-09-2012, 04:22 AM

Can't wait to get the bird on the road...ways to go yet. I gotta make it down to your neck of the woods when she's road ready. Gotta get Black Sheep a ride in the Black Bird!
Fire up your GTX, swing by Detroit, Kidknapp Matt and go tear up Woodward![/QUOTE]

I'm in! Pick a date and I'll make it work!

hunt2elk

02-09-2012, 06:36 AM

That paint looks greaat Prop. Quite a shock as I have been a member for 2 1/2 years and got used to seeing bare metal - and in pieces for so long. You must be very exited to start putting it together.

Propwash

02-09-2012, 07:01 PM

You bet hunt2elk...Quite a feeling! Thank you!

I'll be sure to hit you up on that Matt....Detroit really isn't that far down the road for me and is actually a pretty decent drive once Chi-Town is out of the way.

welder47

02-10-2012, 03:00 PM

Damit Wil now I want black lol. Too bad I did all the jambs in barracuda red already. Need more pics the one isnt doing it buddy. Now your going to be all nervous putting it together without scratching it. There is a cheap roll form of floor underlayment from menards that is a good paint cover and its tough to tear, its blue dont remember the name of it right now.

Propwash

02-10-2012, 10:16 PM

LOL...Huge fan of the black myself Russ. I'll get some more pic's this week when I get a chance to run back down to the shop. I'll be on the road for the next several days, so the shop will be putting the panels back on before she gets ready for the stripes and getting out the door for vinyl/headliner. All the stress of reassembly is stuck with them now..LOL. I'm sure they'll charge me accordingly.

Let me know if you happen to remember what brand/type that underlayment was. Pretty interested. Thanks for the tip!

MarPar

02-10-2012, 11:35 PM

Never been to detroit rock city, im soooo in!! we seriously have to figure all this out!

on the way out of Chi-town, we can pick up Ben in Indiana while we're at it!!!

cant wait to see the Black Beauty in person!

99ss

02-11-2012, 01:45 PM

northerndave

02-13-2012, 08:36 AM

I can't hold together much longer prop, I check back here every day hoping for more pics of your car in paint.

Propwash

02-13-2012, 10:42 AM

I can't hold together much longer prop, I check back here every day hoping for more pics of your car in paint.

LOL...They're coming Dave. I'll find some time to get down there this week..
I checked out some test sample panels for the hood stripe paint, that the painter whipped up for me. She should supposedly be pushed in the booth in the next day or two for those to be layed on.

wingcarenvy

02-13-2012, 03:19 PM

Propwash

02-13-2012, 03:25 PM

WOW!!!! That is Unreal! I miss my black runner so much. Looks great Prop.

Thanks Wingcarenvy and.......Mannnnn that is one sharp looking '68! Had to be tough to let that one go. The prostar's add a nice touch.
What size rim and tire size were you running on that in the back? Looks like something I would like to shoot for.

TBONE

02-13-2012, 03:46 PM

Paint looks awesome Prop! Its pics like that, that keep me motivated!

wingcarenvy

02-13-2012, 07:51 PM

Thanks Wingcarenvy and.......Mannnnn that is one sharp looking '68! Had to be tough to let that one go. The prostar's add a nice touch.
What size rim and tire size were you running on that in the back? Looks like something I would like to shoot for.

The rears are 15x7 with 3.5 backspace. Actually Weldwheel measurement includes the thickness of the flange, so if you measure from the mounting pad on the backside to the lip its real close to 3 inches. It had 275/60R15 BFG which fit perfectly without rubbing.

Its funny you should say that about letting it go. I saw your car and decided to post and pulled up the pics of my old Road Runner, which I haven't seen in few years, and realized how much I miss it.

Ron 73

02-13-2012, 08:14 PM

wingcarenvy, Thats sharp! I to miss a 69 i had, this thread gives me hope for another in my future!

Propwash

02-13-2012, 08:19 PM

Thanks Fella's! I appreciate the info wingcarenvey.

Glad the RR could spark some good memories guys.

Buckeye

02-17-2012, 07:14 AM

Is there a full peek yet?

I think everyone is getting anxious to see that bad boy laid out!

Bens69PlymouthSatellite

02-17-2012, 10:58 PM

She's really gonna be a beautiful beast! Cant wait to see her finished!!

Propwash

02-18-2012, 10:58 PM

Been pretty busy at work, traveling all over, but I'll be swinging by the shop Tuesday and will post up some pic's Buckeye. The Vinyl got pushed till this wednesday...Hoping to have her back at the end of the week or early the week after.

Thanks Ben! Appreciate it.....Same here dude.

MarPar

02-19-2012, 12:25 AM

MarPar

02-19-2012, 12:26 AM

She's really gonna be a beautiful beast! Cant wait to see her finished!!

Good to see ya 'round, Bennie boy!!!! :headbang:

Propwash

02-21-2012, 11:41 AM

Alright guys........Went down to check on the bird at the shop and was a bit suprised to find out she was already sent to the upholstery shop yesterday..

Swung down there and dropped off the Vinyl top and headliner..I apologize for the bit of blurry pic's (camera phone), but I know you guys were getting as anxious as me to see her in full paint. Here you go.............

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/q6-3.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/q5-5.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/q4-6.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/q3-6.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/q2-6.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/q1-6.jpg

Gotta say i'm about 110% happy with the paint job as well as how the hood stripes look on the car. They look better than I thought.

Hopefully she'll be back in my garage next week. i'll snap some pic's again with the Vinyl on.

Hope you guys don't think i'm sounding corny or something, but again I want to stress how much I appreciate all the folks that have participated in this thread and this cars ressurection. All the help, motovation and ambition given has been the foundation of the resto and keeps the drive alive..

I hope you guys enjoy the pic's.

TheSwede

02-21-2012, 12:10 PM

A fantastic paint job Will!

(what does corny means?)

Propwash

02-21-2012, 12:25 PM

Thanks Swede!

Corny..Hmmmm as far as a definition, melodramatic...cheesy...

Best I can come up with as far as a meaning

'69Net

02-21-2012, 01:50 PM

YEAHHHHH BABYYYYYYYYY.................that is all

roadrunnerman

02-21-2012, 02:07 PM

will, that is one TERRIFIC !!!!!! FANTASTIC !!!!!! BEAUTIFULL !!!!! paint job. that car is going to shine even in the moonlight.

nosser

02-21-2012, 02:29 PM

I just read the whole thread and all I can say is OMG! and WOW!

Propwash

02-21-2012, 02:51 PM

YEAHHHHH BABYYYYYYYYY.................that is all

Thanks Steve...Same thing I said when I walked in the door and seen her today.

will, that is one TERRIFIC !!!!!! FANTASTIC !!!!!! BEAUTIFULL !!!!! paint job. that car is going to shine even in the moonlight.

Much appreciated Roger...You've been around for the long haul on this one. I bet you were begining to think like me, wondering if she'll ever make it to paint. Finally there partner! Man am I glad I went with black. Hats off to the painter.

I just read the whole thread and all I can say is OMG! and WOW!

Thanks for taking the time to read the roadrunner book nosser..This thread is getting so long we're gonna have to split it up into chapters. Thanks again, and send over some of that warm air due east if you get a chance..lol

roadrunnerman

02-21-2012, 03:05 PM

will,you, matt,dave,donny,and some of the earlier members ARE the reason i have even started work on my RR. i would have given up a long time ago but you never did, and that is the reason myself and others have stayed with our projects like we have.you inspire pride for us to strive for in our own projects.

Propwash

02-21-2012, 03:16 PM

:beerchug: Cheers brother!

'69Net

02-21-2012, 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=Propwash;227136]Thanks Steve...Same thing I said when I walked in the door and seen her today.

Did You do a funny little dance around the room as well??????:eusa_dance:

northerndave

02-21-2012, 06:07 PM

Woe mama!!

That looks AWESOME!!!!

Jerley87

02-21-2012, 06:27 PM

A black 69RR with the hood performance stripes looks badass man! Whats your wheel choice going to be on it?

Propwash

02-21-2012, 07:01 PM

No dancing Steve...I already find way too many ways to embarrass myself on a daily basis.

Thanks Dave and Jerley....I was thinking either the American Racing Torq-Thrust II's or the Crager 610C's...Kind of a toss up right now. Heck of a tough decision to figure out.

'69Net

02-21-2012, 07:13 PM

Something blacked out with a polished outer rim and chrome nuts and centre cap would be My choice....

Ron 73

02-21-2012, 09:27 PM

Words to express this correctly are hard to come by Will, What a beauty in the final stages of a Panoply of art! Fantastic Will, Chevy guys across America should see this! :)

detmatt1

02-22-2012, 06:38 AM

Very nice, that car is stunning. The engine ready to go in yet? How many hours went in to that paint job?

Bubber

02-22-2012, 08:10 AM

Hey prop I really love that stripe effect on the hood.

That is the same color my cloned 68 hemi had. Talking about memories! Thanks for the look!

Propwash

02-22-2012, 08:52 AM

Glad you like it and it brings back some good memories Bubber...Much obliged.

Thanks Matt! As far as the hours....Starting from plain metal (what it was like when it left my garage) All the filing, hammer, spooning, skim, sand, block, prime, guide and so on would be around 140-160 hours on my part i'm guessing. The body Shop also billed in 23 hours on body. As far as the actual painting (which wasn't me at all) I'm being billed for 17 hours for spray of primers/sealers/paints/clears as well as wet/color sanding and polishing. I know there giving me a super good deal on that end.

With the engine, it is slow going. I already have a blueprint/game plan on the engine and have bought some of the components. I've been holding off on moving on the engine till all the meat and potato's with the paint and upholstery costs came rolling in. You know as well as I that whatever you may think it's gonna cost X's it by three and you'll probably be close. Plan is to get the block down for machining including bore/ridge reeming, deck, notching, oil sump mod and ARP crank studs to be installed hopefully in the next month or two. I'm in no rush, plus there's the whole money thing on top of that.

wannadrag

02-22-2012, 09:33 AM

Hey Will,who is doing the work on the block?Hopefully not Blanchards or B&B.I have had 1st hand expierience with both.

es1758

02-22-2012, 10:06 AM

WOW that is great to see....I have read this thread numerous times over and over. Congrats man I can imagine the feeling of seeing her all painted up.....You did one heck of job on this build..

Buckeye

02-22-2012, 10:56 AM

Shazam man! Now that you have some spare time can you assist me with locating my jaw? I know it's around here somewhere! That is friggin stunning! I absolutely love those black stripes. Just enough to make you do a what tha?

Propwash

02-22-2012, 11:09 AM

Thanks es1758! You bet it is one heck of a feeling. Long road to go yet, but at least now I can really see how she's gonna shape up.

Blanchards......No flipping way Jay. Ever since the old man died years ago, that place is in the toilet. I threw a rod and junked some valves thanks to those clowns with the Coronet. I had them assemble the lower assembly to save some time, being I was on leave. When I pulled the pan, turns out the connecting rod cap nuts where hand tight and almost half of the rest of the nuts were sitting in the oil pan. Sorry to hear they screwed you as well. I use to take blocks to Automotive in Appleton, but their prices are now in orbit. Way out of line, Plus that Jamie over in the autobody supply department thinks he is Chuck Foose or something. Super Arrogant, but has no clue what he's doing (usually how it works)

Block work is being done by Appleton Crank.

Propwash

02-22-2012, 11:11 AM

es1758

02-22-2012, 08:33 PM

So are you happy with how the two piece floor came out after it was all said and done? I am up in the air on a one piece or two, really all I need is the center section that drops in right after the rails. Considered just making one with a bead roller and fab it all togther using seperate pieces to recreate the drop in, what you think.

Propwash

02-22-2012, 09:00 PM

I guess that all depends what you're shooting for buddy. If you're going for a perfect factory appearance and plan on having mirrors under your car at shows, go with the one piece. If you don't mind a weld seam being somewhat visible from underneath, go for the 2 piece. I'm happy with the resluts of the 2 piece. As far as the amount of work to change them out, I would say it's about a horse a piece. Obviously more welding with a 2 piece, but more metal to remove as well as some structure jigging with a one piece.

If I was in your shoe's and didn't have a large area to replace and had the skills/equipment/material to make a patch, I would do so. Save yourself the money if you can. God knows there's other things on the car that can suck that up in a hurry. Just be sure to use the same gauge of metal as the factory being it's a uni-boby and part of the cars core/support structure is through the floor

moparstuart

02-23-2012, 01:15 PM

awesome , lookin great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Donny

02-23-2012, 08:46 PM

Wowsers! Very Nice old friend! Love the black hood stripes, the flat black just looks 'proper' and 'correct', way cool! Now, time to get my own ass GTX project back in gear!!!

nosser

02-23-2012, 08:46 PM

Thanks for taking the time to read the roadrunner book nosser..This thread is getting so long we're gonna have to split it up into chapters. Thanks again, and send over some of that warm air due east if you get a chance..lol[/QUOTE]

hey you can always come down for a visit... always nice and warm here. :icon_thumleft:

Propwash

02-23-2012, 09:08 PM

Thanks Stu and Donny! The stripes sure seem to take the cake with everyone's opinion on it. Gotta say i'm real happy with them as well. Now, to keep them clean and free of wax is another question...LOL

Glad to see you rolling on the GTX over at your thread Donny. A man needs to give him self a break every once in a while from work to enjoy life.

You bet Nosser.......Since the roadrunner has turned my bank account into a burnt up wasteland, about the only way I could afford to get there these days would be rowing my own boat..LOL The only tropical vacation i'm gonna be seeing is the paper umbrella tossed on a cheap happy hour drink at the old VFW on Thursdays.
Someday i'll make it there...someday.

Dave Pratt

02-23-2012, 10:15 PM

Will those hood stripes are flat-out killer.I mean bad-ass and then some!I gotta see this bird with the vinyl top.Killer says it all.I just put a set of Centerline drag wheels on my 70 RR and that really fit the bill for me with a black vinyl top/EV-2 body.If I could have found a set of Torue Thrusts or the bird I would have gone that route possibly but my buddy from work told me his dad didn't want to run Centerlines on his 69 Bee anymore.Damn that black/black/black looks killer.Thanks for this thread Will...very cool !

Propwash

02-23-2012, 10:39 PM

Thanks Dave! The Vinyl was going on today, headliner tomorrow. They had the vinyl layed out on the roof this morning, but not installed. It's gonna go great with the stripes. Has about the same sheen/glare as them. I'm stoked! I'll post up some pic's as soon as I can once it's installed. You gonna post up some pic's of your bird with the centerlines? Would love to see that combo.

Revhendo

02-23-2012, 11:07 PM

I dunno man, all that pretty black. Oh, and once you get the shiney stuff on, you're gonna be polishing that bad little girl every hour. You're going to miss the bare metal stage.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! I can't believe I typed that with a straight face. It looks frakin awesome.

Seriously though, keep those wheels and tires. I promise they'll come back in fashion.

Revhendo

02-24-2012, 12:30 AM

I keep going back to the hood stripe pics. Suweet. What color are the hood grilles gonna be?

'69Net

02-24-2012, 12:52 AM

I keep going back to the hood stripe pics. Suweet. What color are the hood grilles gonna be?

+1:upside down:

Propwash

02-24-2012, 08:38 AM

Thanks Rev! As far as the inserts, went with the same Matte finish as the stripes. Thought about an offset color like red on the insert grill's, but was thinking that might break it up a bit too much.

One thing that is changed with the inserts is I filled the emblem holes for the engine type tag and am having custom metal emblems made (to replicate the OEM)...They will be "512" badges

Sneke_Eyez

02-24-2012, 08:43 AM

Beauty-Full!
That is gorgeous!
Usually I am not big on black on these B-bodies despite liking it on everything else, your car is making me wonder why!

Propwash

02-24-2012, 10:36 AM

Thanks Sneke........The one thing I enjoy about not having to be a numbers chaser is I can make the car how I want it. It's paid off on this car. I definitely respect the guys/car that are purist, but enjoy the freedom to be able to pick my own paint, engine, wheels, suspension ect..ect...

One Choice i'm trying to get hashed out is the wheels...We all see this same topic, seems like on a monthly basis and now having to pick my own I can see why. Here's what I have it leveled down to....Whatcha think?

US MAGS WHEEL Standard..Not too sure if I like the sharp rise on the spokes. From an angle they look like flat straight spokes

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/w1-5.jpg

American Racing Torq-Thrust II.. Love the looks, but a straight on profile they seem not to fill into the center quite enough. This is the wheel I'm really swaying towards

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/w3-1.jpg

American Racing Torq-Thrust D.. Fill in nice, pretty beefy, but not huge on the suttle flat machined 2 step lip coming in.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/w2-2.jpg

I know i'm the one that need to be happy in the end. It's tough to finally pic one being it's almost a grand out the door for a set...

MarPar

02-24-2012, 11:39 AM

Hey Will...let me throw ya my two cents for the wheels...

wanted these, but in the end i don't think they would have looked right on my car. your car on the other hand....

Propwash

02-24-2012, 12:56 PM

Those are pretty sharp Mario! That Charcoal hue might work pretty dang good...Hmmmmmmm.

MarPar

02-24-2012, 01:44 PM

Those are pretty sharp Mario! That Charcoal hue might work pretty dang good...Hmmmmmmm.

Yup! that's just what i was thinking! the full on chrome may take away from the sinister look...

'69Net

02-24-2012, 01:55 PM

Something blacked out with a polished outer rim and chrome nuts and centre cap would be My choice....

Hey Will...let me throw ya my two cents for the wheels...

wanted these, but in the end i don't think they would have looked right on my car. your car on the other hand....

Those are pretty sharp Mario! That Charcoal hue might work pretty dang good...Hmmmmmmm.

HMMMMMMMMM thats what I said 2 pages ago.....lol

satin black....just like the bonnet....oh sorry (hood) for You foriegners..

moparstuart

02-24-2012, 02:05 PM

Those are pretty sharp Mario! That Charcoal hue might work pretty dang good...Hmmmmmmm.

I agree those wheel would look killer on there that thing is so sinister in black :headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:

MarPar

02-24-2012, 02:18 PM

HMMMMMMMMM thats what I said 2 pages ago.....lol

satin black....just like the bonnet....oh sorry (hood) for You foriegners..

lol is that the opposite of the boot???

'69Net

02-24-2012, 02:27 PM

lol is that the opposite of the boot???

Yep.....cause a trunk You carry onto a boat to go on an oversea's Holiday.

Propwash

02-24-2012, 02:32 PM

Yep.....cause a trunk You carry onto a boat to go on an oversea's Holiday.

That would be a bitch to fit in the carry on.......

What brand/type wheels are those Mario?

Gpuller

02-24-2012, 02:42 PM

Looks great Prop you've out did yourself!
Go with the Torque Thrust II's. I'm also a fan of body colored steel wheels too.

Something like this in black would be damn nice too. Has a nice stance.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i286/GPULLER/mopars%2009/DSC06702.jpg

MarPar

02-24-2012, 02:42 PM

Them there rims would be here...

www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findWheelProductCategoryDetailStyl.do?rcz=76108&tp=Car%2FMinivan&st=5+Spoke&tpc=MBMOS&rc=TFWINT

MarPar

02-24-2012, 02:44 PM

Yep.....cause a trunk You carry onto a boat to go on an oversea's Holiday.

or you could have a trunk swinging in front of you too!!! :icon_elephant:

Propwash

02-24-2012, 03:07 PM

or you could have a trunk swinging in front of you too!!! :icon_elephant:

LMAO!!

Thanks Gpuller...I appreciate it. Those wheels do look slick on the bird, but obviously i'm more of a sucker for the 5 spoke type wheels.

Thanks again Mario for the wheel reference. I was able to dig up a pic of those wheels on a Camaro (sorry).

So, with/without the spinner type center cap....How will these wheels.................

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/q7.jpg

....Look on this car......................

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/q6.jpg

Propwash

02-24-2012, 03:30 PM

Dang it...Most size backspace they have on those wheels is 16MM...Arrr, back to the drawing board

****Little update****** Guy I talked to on the phone at the kinda local (down by Madison) discount tire store was wrong.
I emailed MG and they said the offsets are O, -6 and 13MM, not backspacing. I just need to do the math.

So if I go with this wheel a 15" x 8" 13MM offset i'll have about 4.5" backspacing. Perfect!

The fronts (15" X 7") only come in 0 and -6MM offset, so 0 offset being a 3.5" Backspace...Is that enough backspacing for the front wheels??
Or would it be wise to go 15" x 8" with the 4.5" BS up front?

Propwash

02-24-2012, 10:49 PM

Better pic with coys wheels...kinda the same thing. Think these are 17's?

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/dsc01284eh.jpg

Ron 73

02-24-2012, 11:05 PM

Im not much for low profile, but these wheels look kind of sinister to me, i know you cant see much but thought id show them to you for a "just maybe" look.. I cant seen to find a good pic of the wheels alone, sorry..
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd514/ron19731/Barry27s_R-Runner_197220Small.jpg

MarPar

02-24-2012, 11:36 PM

Beauty, Will!! i hope you can get those rims to fit...would look soooo bad-ass (always been a sucker for spinners btw)

i thought backspacing and offset were the same sh*t? please enlighten me...

been wanting to get new rims for the GTX'er, but been hemming and hawwing (two good friends of mine! lol) for a while now not sure what would fit right.

looks like those wheels on that charger are 'bout the same...would look better on skeletor tho!!!

MarPar

02-24-2012, 11:38 PM

wait, somebody down by Madison was wrong???

ya recall walker again...oh wait they did!!! {rant off lol}

Revhendo

02-24-2012, 11:42 PM

Beauty, Will!! i hope you can get those rims to fit...would look soooo bad-ass

BTW i thought backspacing and offset were the same sh*t? please enlighten me...

been wanting to get new rims for the GTX'er, but been hemming and hawwing (two good friends of mine! lol) for a while now not sure what would fit right.

looks like those wheels on that charger are 'bout the same...would look better on skeletor tho!!!

Backspace is the distance from the back of the wheel to the hub mounting face.

Offset is how far off from the center of the wheel hoop the hub face is.

MarPar

02-24-2012, 11:55 PM

hmmmm, sooooo.....???

Backspace is the distance from the back of the wheel to the hub mounting face. (thickness of the hub itself?)

Offset is how far off from the center of the wheel hoop the hub face is. (Depth of the rim; to the front of da hub face?)

Propwash

02-25-2012, 02:12 PM

LOL......Confusing isn't it Mario..Backspacing is part of offset. Yeah, those goofy clowns down in Madision....I think they really do enjoy using my tax dollars for toilet paper.

To explain offset, with a car wheel with 0 offset, the hub/mounting surface is centered (widthwise) in the middle of the rim. A postive offset, the hub/mounting surface is further to the outside of the rim. Negative, hub/mounting surface is towards the inside of the wheel past center..

Backspace.....Take an 8 inch wheel, say the offset is 0 (hub/munting surface is centered/widthwise). That would mean it has a 4" Backspace (half the wheel width) If the wheel had a +13MM offset (about 1/2") that would mean that rim now has a 4 1/2" backspace. Vise versa for negative. If the wheel had a -13MM offset, now the hub/mounting suface is deeper down in the rim 1/2". So 1/2" - 4", you would have a 3.5" backspace.

Make sense or do you now have a bigger headache?

Thanks again for lending your idea on the rims! I've decided to go that route...Keep the meaness in it!! Question is now, do I go with the 17" like is on the Charger or should I stick with the 15" and taller tire sidewall, like is on the car now?

'69Net

02-25-2012, 02:38 PM

MarPar

02-25-2012, 04:40 PM

Thanks Will!!! it does make more sense to me now. i had to read it a few times (and a few more yet :icon_dwarf:) but i do get it.

Im glad i could help in your decision!! those rims will look bad-freakin-ass!!!

re: wheel/tire size; few things- do you want restomod/pro touring look or stockish? then the ride height, you want it lowered or standing up taller?

perhaps a combo of the two? 16" with a mid-thick sidewall....got plenty of room in those wheeltubs to fill up!!!

and with a 512, you'll def need ALOT of contact patch!!! :steering:

Ron 73

02-25-2012, 07:47 PM

Yup! that's just what i was thinking! the full on chrome may take away from the sinister look...

X 2... I agree! We all love the chrome but the charcoal along with it makes the sinister look mean and lean, with a added sparkle with the chrome... Ive seen these before because i keep going back and looking, if they just had a tad bit more "dark" in them.. JMO
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd514/ron19731/ar_ar898_maa_ci3_l-1.jpg

UMmm, this wasn't meant to change your mind Prop, just to show you, Until i found these awhile back, ive never seen them on someones car before!

Propwash

02-25-2012, 10:51 PM

Sharp wheels Ron...Thanks for posting!

Finallygotmine

02-26-2012, 12:05 PM

Man Prop, I share your dilemma. I'm a sucker for bright chrome with black but also think the grayed or charcoal look would look very cool with your new black stripes. good luck with that. BTW, I think 17's still look great on a Roadrunner, bigger than that, they start to not look right IMO. Have you tried the wheel simulator on this website.

http://www.newstalgiawheel.com/
The closest you can get is a 70 RR but you can try all kinds of combinations with your black color.

Daryn

99ss

02-26-2012, 05:05 PM

:love4:

MarPar

02-26-2012, 08:36 PM

Thats a pretty damn cool simulator, Daryn!

thanks for the post!

Mario

Ron 73

02-26-2012, 08:45 PM

Daryn, Hows yours coming, getting close?

Propwash

02-26-2012, 09:34 PM

Thanks a bunch Daryn...That wheel sim is pretty damn cool. I must have spent an hour playing with the different combo's. And like Ron said, how is your bird coming along?

So...Going with the 17's on the bird. They actually work out pretty well with the tire height/width I wanted for the car. I'm actually going with Coy's for the wheels. They are identical to MB's that Mario recommended (thanks again!!!!), just that they come with the backspacing i'm looking for.

Here's a Chevelle with the Coy's, 17" rims and a similar color combo on the car. I plan having a bit more sidewall on my tires than this guy. Pending the outcome of a supposed Major snowstorm, hopefully I'll have the car back Tuesday/Wednesday.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/25162360011_large.jpg

crlush

02-27-2012, 07:47 AM

I love the black with black matte stripes, your car looks amazing prop, also like the dark grey torque thrusts in 17s, with a tire that has a little more sidewall like you mentioned rather than the (rubber band tire look) will look awesome with the sinister theme that looks like your successfully pulling off. In my opinion 17s with the right tires doesnt look out of place at all on muscle cars, I put 17s on my 66 coronet convertible with a thicker sidewall and have got a lot of compliments from the older crowd that generally don't care for the bigger wheels. Well anyway just wanted to compliment you on your car and the tons of pictures you took (wish I had taken half the pics you did when I restored mine).

Propwash

02-27-2012, 08:05 AM

Thanks a bunch crlush..You know it seems everything else on the car was so dang easy to pick out, till I got to the rims. Tough decision. But I guess rims are like a haircut...not really the main flash of the car, but if they're screwy looking or way off course, destroys the look of the car. Good to hear they went well on your Coronet! Ever though our cars are a few years apart and have different bodies, I think they share the same general look/platform.

crlush

02-27-2012, 05:55 PM

I think the rims/tires and stance really make or break the look of a car, like the pic of the chevelle above, the rims are sweet but theres not enough tire there like you mentioned, doesnt look bad but it doesnt look quite right, also would look better if it was a tad lower(mambe an inch) so theres not as much space between the tire and wheelwell. well im shure with the suggestions you have been getting that you will get it right, I really enjoyed reading about all the work you have done on your car.

Propwash

02-27-2012, 09:31 PM

Totally agree crlush...As for the low profile sidewalls, thought it was pretty hilarious one members put it as "riding around on rubber bands". Once I get these on, you guys please do me a favor and slap me one if the car ends up having a ricer look. Thanks again for taking the time to go through the thread, glad you enjoyed it. From what I can see on you avtar pic, you '66 Coronet ragtop looks great with the 17's.

71ChallengerSE

02-27-2012, 11:02 PM

17s are GREAT with a nice meaty sidewall!

Finallygotmine

02-28-2012, 01:16 PM

Daryn, Hows yours coming, getting close?

Hey Ron and Prop,
Yeah thats a pretty cool simulator. I was also using it to try to figure out what color to eventually use.
As for my bird, I got a pretty nasty surprise from the body guy after they took off the paint and undercoating. Car went from a body tweaking/painting project to a complete rescue. Car was totally camouflaged everywhere. The guy I bought it from totally lied to me about the condition. Oh well, That's what I get for diving head first into something I had no prior experience in. I'm just glad I have the means to make the car right. I intend to drive it to Texas when I get it finished and "drop in" on him. At least to face him and call him an SOB in person. My car got new fenders, quarters, drivers floor. trunk floor, rear valance, core support, new hood and other pieces. They even put caulking on the underside and put coating on it to disguise the floor.
Ironically, the guy who is doing my car had another 69 RR in the shop so when all the AMD metal showed up, they were able to make all the critical measurements and original radius comparisons. The AMD metal wasn't even close in some places. they had to cut off pieces off my original metal and fabricate it onto the new stuff. The car looked like Frankenstein to get it to look correct, Lots of cutting and messaging. But you know what that's like right Prop?
Anyways, it won't be ready until at least probably September at this point. So, I traded in my truck and bought a Challenger. Now I won't feel stupid wearing my FBBO shirts while driving a Chevy truck. LOL Talk about sacrilegious!!

Propwash

02-28-2012, 08:59 PM

Wow! Sorry to hear it Daryn. Good to hear you're bringing her back to all her glory. As far as the criminal that pulled that fraud on you, if you want some company to go down to Texas with you, i'm game. Just to put a bottom feeder in his place for something like that would be priceless.

Good to hear you have an able body shop to tackle such a task as well as having an original '69 to base it off. I sure do know what you mean on that AMD metal Daryn...LOL. As we all seen on this thread and others, some stuff fits OK, other AMD stuff is like you have base material to start with and you have to modify it from there to make it work.

Congrat's on the new Challenger! Hope you enjoy it. They're great cars. I'll be honest and share I also have a Chevy truck. I'll be honest again and say I enjoy the truck and have had nothing but good luck with it. I see those new Challenger's sitting on that lot and think "man I wish". Problem is that I need a truck. For hauling, work, camping, hunting, getting in the woods and it takes everything I dish out to it. Had a new Dodge truck once back in the late 90's. Sorry to say it was the worst vehicle I have ever owned. I brought it back under the Lemon Law...Ugggghhh

Can't wait to see your revived bird once she hit's the pavement come fall. I guess this way, at least you know now exactly what you got. It's just too bad that sack of meat ripped you off, making you believe the car was something it was not. With the pieces you have in place now, she'll be better than ever

Ron 73

02-28-2012, 09:21 PM

Daryn, I to am sorry to hear of this mess, id like to say i cant imagine what kind of mood this put you in the day you found out... Something similar happened to me once with a 72 Chevelle, mine even included the frame.. Sucks is a nice way to put it, I am glad though your chins up ready for the battle and i hope with the rest of this project it gos as smooth as can be! By the sound of it, one nice new bird on the way.. I don't know if going there and calling him a SOB would be the way id go, I think i would have to drive in and tell him to come out and look just what his attitude toward people and greed created, THEN i would leave it up to your imagination to finish the conversation, at least 50 or so feet from the bird. Good luck my friend, and enjoy the Challenger. http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd514/ron19731/thumbs.gif

Finallygotmine

02-29-2012, 12:02 PM

Well, thanks guys, I appreciate all the "positive waves" (Oddball/Kellys Heros). LOL Yup, Loving the new Challenger. 5.7, manual 6sp with a 3.92 rear end. They really thought out the car well. Mine has the redline 3 coat paint with no stripes with chrome 20's. Very clean looking. I hear you on the need for a truck Prop. I needed one, and I too had good luck with mine. However, I just bought a house in Florida and am relinquishing most of the running of my company to my son. So, I don't need to haul stuff through a foot of snow anymore. I also heard all the horror stories on the dodge trucks of the 90's. Loved the looks of them tho.
As far as the deception of my car, I hold myself mostly responsible for being a trusting soul. I should know better, I mean, I'm in business for myself for Christ sakes. I'm not sure what motivates a person to go to such lengths to deceive another person, but I do believe in "what comes around, goes around". I'm sure that whether or not I ever go there and confront him, he will be somehow adversely affected by life in general. I just think it would be worth it to see his face when having to man up to his deception.

Car was looking pretty good last time I saw it. My guy didn't like the door gaps on the doors, so he added about 3/16 inch to the doors to close the gaps. The fit and finish should definitely be better than new. He's definitely a detail oriented type.
Anyways, enough of hijacking YOUR thread. Your car looks fantastic. You are making many of the decision that I would be making as far as color combos and wheels. As a matter of fact, I might still paint mine black, something I was deciding not to, because of living in this dirty town. Your black stripes are so subtle they kinda catch you off guard. Very cool. Keep up the great work and thank you for your concern. You too Ron!!

Daryn

P.S. Did you ever look at the Black Chrome 17's from Coy? I think they might look really cool on your car. Just a suggestion.

Propwash

03-06-2012, 02:58 PM

No, I haven't seen them Daryn...sounds cool though...black chrome.

I'm sure you're are right, what comes around...goes around. He'll get his in the end. Still a shame someone knowingly hoses a fellow person like that. I guess he's the one that has to look in the mirror everyday.

So....Little update with the car. After a circus act with the Year One headliner that I won't go into, the uphostery shop called today and said she's finished. Tomorrow morning, after several long months, the bird will be home. Pic's coming tomorrow!

roadrunnerman

03-06-2012, 05:06 PM

can't wait to see it will.

Ron 73

03-06-2012, 08:31 PM

Make that one more who cant wait to see it back home!! Sounds like a plan coming together.. http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd514/ron19731/thumbs.gif

MarPar

03-06-2012, 09:43 PM

had me jonesin' for a few days there, guy. :pimp_daddy:

been lookin' forward to seein her back in her proper spot.

what's next when she gets home????

and btw....

:worthless_thread:

Propwash

03-06-2012, 09:56 PM

LOL Mario!! Same here.

As far as the next step...Mannnnn so many parts to install, don't know where to begin. I'm thinking install the dash.

roadrunnerman

03-07-2012, 07:35 AM

dash,wiring harness,brake lines,fuel lines.......And you're off.

Sonny Black

03-07-2012, 03:14 PM

Hot, Fast, and Black.....

just like I like my ........cars.

looking Good prop,

Sonny

BTW; it is hard to pick a rim for a larger b body it has to be "just right".

Propwash

03-07-2012, 08:14 PM

Thanks Sonny! Sure love that '63!! I hear you on the wheels....Just when you think you're dead set on one rim, another idea comes to mind.

Sheeeeeeeeee's Back!!! Good to have Ol' Skeletor back in the stable. Think the Vinyl goes real well with the stripes!

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a1-10.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s2-5.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s3-3.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a4-9.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s4-3.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s1-6.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/a7-5.jpg

Ron 73

03-07-2012, 08:45 PM

I don't know if these heart palpitations will stop now, shaking uncontrollably, drooling on both sides of my mouth and yet almost, i said AL...most speechless... What possible word outside of Awesome can someone tell me here. Fan damn tastic Will, unbelievably beautiful!!!!!!

Propwash

03-07-2012, 09:11 PM

Thanks Ron....You sound like I did when I finally got her home...LOL

Let the work begin!

mrbelv2

03-07-2012, 09:16 PM

Simply awesome! Great color choice.

Ron 73

03-07-2012, 09:22 PM

Thanks Ron....You sound like I did when I finally got her home...LOL

Let the work begin!

OK< im ready!!! That would be an honer to have part in............ FACT!:icon_smile:!

MarPar

03-07-2012, 09:48 PM

Congrats Will!!! does my heart good to see her back in her stable!!!!

Propwash

03-07-2012, 09:52 PM

Thanks Mario! Good feeling indeed...Now the fun begins, putting in/on parts to bring her closer back to life.

Ron......Thinking about allllllllllllllll the work I have ahead, sure could use the help..lol

Not that long ago.........she looked like this sitting in the garage. Kinda hard to imagine now.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/qp.jpg

'69Net

03-07-2012, 10:12 PM

Yer a Talented Man Will............well done...

northerndave

03-08-2012, 08:06 AM

Bad to the bone Prop, I love it.

Propwash

03-08-2012, 08:09 AM

Thanks Dave.......For some funny reason i'm thinking this car is gonna get me in trouble..LOL

SGTPaul

03-08-2012, 09:18 AM

Looking realllly sweet Prop!!!

Propwash

03-08-2012, 09:49 AM

Thanks SGT! Appreciate it.

northerndave

03-08-2012, 12:08 PM

Aren't you a little old for "trouble"?

:grin:

That top looks great, were you around at all for the install? mine will get a white top.

'69Net

03-08-2012, 01:47 PM

[QUOTE=northerndave;233040]Aren't you a little old for "trouble"?

:grin:

Don't be silly!...........as You get older Your right foot gets heavier and less easy to control...little bit of nerve damage, Me Thinks?http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/images/icons/icon14.gif

Propwash

03-08-2012, 02:07 PM

Aren't you a little old for "trouble"?

:grin:

That top looks great, were you around at all for the install? mine will get a white top.

Hehehehehehe!!.....According to the wife's standard operating procedures, i'm in trouble all the time. You should she what leaving the toliet seat gets you around this joint..Gastapo I tell ya..Boot camp tactics.......

Naw, didn't catch the install. I did notice all my lower front windshield clips were never installed, but all the others were. Hope the guy didn't eat them or something. Yours will be a knock out with the white top!! Speaking of the Tin Chicken..any progress?

Propwash

03-08-2012, 02:09 PM

es1758

03-08-2012, 02:10 PM

Propwash

03-08-2012, 02:16 PM

Dang man that thing is just flat out awesome man, I cant wait to see it all done. You do amazing work man,hands down. Its great to just sit and read this thread and just watch it progress. Bet it sure feels good to have it back in your hands.

Thanks buddy! You bet it is a great feeling....I heard all the mice in my garage are throwing a welcome home party...I'm supplying the D-Con

Finallygotmine

03-08-2012, 02:52 PM

You mean your going to take the knobby tires off?!?! :poke:

Propwash

03-08-2012, 08:31 PM

Unfortunatley the all-terrains are probably going to be retired Daryn. I know..I know I'm gonna miss out on some off-road traction, but I guess that's a sacrafice i'm gonna have to take.

Found another wheel simulator kinda like the one you posted. It's for US MAGS. No where near the amount of rims or cars the one you posted has, but still is pretty neat

http://www.mhtwheels.com/iconfigurator/?ky=hot502@mag$!yel

TBONE

03-08-2012, 08:34 PM

That top looks awesome with those strips! Great job Propwash.

detmatt1

03-09-2012, 05:10 AM

YEAH MAN!!! Really nice prop, great to see it back home. Did the wife miss you in bed the first night?

Propwash

03-09-2012, 07:16 AM

YEAH MAN!!! Really nice prop, great to see it back home. Did the wife miss you in bed the first night?

Thanks buddy! You bet Matt...for a couple nights now

moparstuart

03-09-2012, 12:02 PM

ok check out this black beauty , big injected hemi and 6 speed manual

Propwash

03-09-2012, 12:36 PM

That is awesome!!!!!!!! Must be your birdable's evil twin Stu....

moparstuart

03-09-2012, 12:39 PM

That is awesome!!!!!!!! Must be your birdable's evil twin Stu....

yup he stole your paint sceme

Propwash

03-09-2012, 02:01 PM

yup he stole your paint sceme

Well as long as it's on a Mopar, spray away. Now if it was on a Suburu, well...we'd be pulling out some ordnance. Like USS Missouri type.

wannadrag

03-09-2012, 07:09 PM

I got wood.lol Looking forward to seeing it in real life.Iola or Pierce Park shows?Or maybe my driveway?

Propwash

03-09-2012, 08:33 PM

Don't know about dragging her to Iola, but i'm sure i'll be down at Pierce Park. I gotta make it to your neck of the woods and check out the GTX

Ron 73

03-09-2012, 08:38 PM

ok check out this black beauty , big injected hemi and 6 speed manual

That is awesome sweet man.... Wills RR would look right at home next to that machine!

99ss

03-10-2012, 09:24 PM

Well as long as it's on a Mopar, spray away. Now if it was on a Suburu, well...we'd be pulling out some ordnance. Like USS Missouri type.

LOL, lay a hurting on it with Big Mo :sFl_america2:

wingcarenvy

03-11-2012, 11:50 PM

Looks amazing Prop! Your over the hump now. Should be done by next week, right?

Propwash

03-12-2012, 12:57 PM

Looks amazing Prop! Your over the hump now. Should be done by next week, right?

LMAO!! Oh yeah...shooting for this weekend. Come on over, you can make the funky car sounds and i'll pretend to hit the missing gas pedal and shift the non-existent transmission

moparstuart

03-12-2012, 01:06 PM

LMAO!! Oh yeah...shooting for this weekend. Come on over, you can make the funky car sounds and i'll pretend to hit the missing gas pedal and shift the non-existent transmission

i'm there :tongueflap:

Propwash

03-12-2012, 01:45 PM

i'm there :tongueflap:

Sounds like a plan........Don't forget to bring your Peter Fonda autographed Captain America racing helmet!

MarPar

03-12-2012, 02:07 PM

lmao you guys crack me up!!!:icon_rr::upside down::upside down:

moparstuart

03-13-2012, 01:27 PM

Sounds like a plan........Don't forget to bring your Peter Fonda autographed Captain America racing helmet!

what no BBQ sauce wanted :snorting::snorting::snorting:

Propwash

03-13-2012, 03:22 PM

what no BBQ sauce wanted :snorting::snorting::snorting:

Awwwwwwwww sh*t.....How could I forget?? 5 Gallon pals!!!

Damn it man...Now you got me hungry!!

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/drapers-bbq-smokin-sauce-2.jpg

Redhorse719

03-13-2012, 06:49 PM

Awesome!! Just Awesome!:icon_salut:

northerndave

03-14-2012, 11:51 AM

Shouldn't a done that Prop....

Now I gotta go and do this:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1018.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1011.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1021.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1028.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1038.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1041.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1053.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1083.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1103.jpg

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http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/northerndave/food/IMG_1105.jpg

Propwash

03-14-2012, 12:02 PM

Cruelty Dave............Pure Cruelty man.....

Nice Grill be the way!

moparstuart

03-14-2012, 12:10 PM

yummy

northerndave

03-14-2012, 01:33 PM

Cruelty Dave............Pure Cruelty man.....

Nice Grill be the way!

Thanks, my own design on the grill. I was gonna go big I tell ya, manufacturing/sales/etc.

:grin:

Actually I was, I had a good sale dialog open with cabelas cooking and cutlery purchasing dept.

I chose the route of the day job working for somebody elses company. :grin:

Maybe someday if I grow a pair or once I have the kids growed up so I don't have so much to risk financially.

How's that black bird?

charger360

03-14-2012, 03:56 PM

that is a fine looking car! you should be proud of the work you have done you saved that car. not many would have gone that far, good work

68bee70rr

03-14-2012, 07:30 PM

I just found your thred Prop. This is most absolutley outragesouly awesome project and detail i have ever ever seen. I have been reading it for 3 days now after work and im on page 38, not going to cheat and look at the finished product yet i just jumped to the last page to comment only. I am at stages on my 69 now that you have posted, trunk and cowl, front end ect... I needed a little inspiration because i was feeling down and overwhelmed on mine. This is a HUGE inspiration and now im motivated again. Wow im pumped and hope i can do half the job that ive seen you do so far. Thanks for all the good work and detailed pics. Much appreciated. Just noticed you also have 68 Coronet and 69 rr. We have great taste i have a 68 Bee tribute and making my 69rr tribute and also a 70rr tribute.

Propwash

03-14-2012, 09:20 PM

Thanks, my own design on the grill. I was gonna go big I tell ya, manufacturing/sales/etc.

:grin:

Actually I was, I had a good sale dialog open with cabelas cooking and cutlery purchasing dept.

I chose the route of the day job working for somebody elses company. :grin:

Maybe someday if I grow a pair or once I have the kids growed up so I don't have so much to risk financially.

How's that black bird?

I can see why Dave...That is a great design! I'd buy one! Heck of a lot better than some of the garbage they're selling in the stores these days. Till you release those to the world, I guess i'll be sticking with the ol' Weber.

that is a fine looking car! you should be proud of the work you have done you saved that car. not many would have gone that far, good work

:icon_thumright: Thanks a bunch buddy!

I just found your thred Prop. This is most absolutley outragesouly awesome project and detail i have ever ever seen. I have been reading it for 3 days now after work and im on page 38, not going to cheat and look at the finished product yet i just jumped to the last page to comment only. I am at stages on my 69 now that you have posted, trunk and cowl, front end ect... I needed a little inspiration because i was feeling down and overwhelmed on mine. This is a HUGE inspiration and now im motivated again. Wow im pumped and hope i can do half the job that ive seen you do so far. Thanks for all the good work and detailed pics. Much appreciated. Just noticed you also have 68 Coronet and 69 rr. We have great taste i have a 68 Bee tribute and making my 69rr tribute and also a 70rr tribute.

Glad the bird could toss some wind in your sails 68bee. Keep pegging away man! One day at a time....You'll get there!! When she starts to weigh heavy, shut the garage door and crack open a cold one. Tackle her again the next day.. I appreciate the kind words and thanks for taking the time to read through the Plymouth novel..LOL. I'm happy to see it's motivating other folks to bring these wonderful cars back. Quite the collection of cars you have. It's pretty funny we have twin, twin cars. Looks like i'm gonna have to find a 70RR to catch up..LOL.

Best wishes moving forward on your '69. Keep up the hard work and i'm sure someday soon we'll be gazing upon your freshly resurrected Roadrunner.

As far as the Blackbird Dave........little bit of progress

Dash is in!! Not the most fun job to do, being it is cumbersome (like trying to stuff a fridge in the dryer cumbersome). My advice would be is to get the top lip resting and start the 5 bolts running across. Then install the two side mounting bolts, move on to tighten the top 5 bolts.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s1-7.jpg

Emblems are on...Whewwww! Glad the little paper template I made from the rotton old doors worked well. Hood inserts are in..

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s2-6.jpg

Thought this was kind of a neat pic......So, to the guys doing your own blocking/sanding, just when it feels the bones in your hands are about to break and someone drove a railroad spike in your elbows...Keep sanding!! and then sand some more..

It pays off:

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/propwash4/Roadrunner%20Resto%20Stage%201/s3-4.jpg