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Before you Vote - Alarming information about the Communist Party

Hummm Al Gore... ex Vice President.... Global Warming activist... Mr. the glaciers will be gone in a few years the coastlines will all be flooded. Mr. we should get ride of all carbon burning cars and power plants. While I build my 6 million dollar mansion on the California coastline.... which remember, is going to flood in a few years.

If the glaciers never changed, much of our country would still be under ice - including where I live. I suppose Algore would like to go back to the days before fire was discovered - lower emissions that way. LOL

Politics is nothing but a business. Anyone who thinks these people give a rat's you know what about doing what's right have their heads in the sand. The #1 job of all politicians is getting re-elected, period. It begins and ends there. Everything they do is done to position themselves for votes. All together now...TERM LIMITS. If I were king (LOL), there would be no re-elections. You get one term and you're out. Make it 6 years or whatever, but no re-election. Then maybe they'd get something useful done once in awhile (although there would still be plenty of self serving decisions). Government in our country is supposed to be by the people - not career politicians. You serve your term and you get out for the next person to come in and serve. Rev is right - the 2 party system stinks. Even if you get a decent person in there, they end up having to toe the party line. It becomes all about wins and losses and what side you're on (dem or rep) - not about issues. Sorry for the rant and sinicism. I still do vote, by the way. Sometimes I'm not sure why, though.
 
Ya know, there are times when I'm voting that it feels like betting on the ponies.
God knows my Nags didn't come in this time.
 
I agree with term limits, I think that is one thing that was left out of the Constitution that should have been put in. But if you think about it we are the term limits. If our elected officials don't listen to us then we must vote them out. The reason they become corrupted is because they know we will keep voting them back in. If you become complacent and don't pay attention to what they are doing then it's no one's fault but our own.
In a lot of cases we have become as greedy as the elected officials. These people bring back a lot of the tax payers money to their districts, which is usually the most populated areas in their districts so they keep those people happy... and that's how they get re elected. This is the kind of crap that has to stop. Maybe if the money stops then they will have to get re elected on there merit and voting record not on there ability to steal money from the tax payers.
Example; The now deceased Congressman, John Merthia. I don't think I've ever talked to anyone in his district that voted for him. But he kept Johnstown Pa. happy with all kinds of money for Johnstown and Summerset Pa, but everywhere else there is nothing.
Sen. Robert Byrd That guy was the pork king of Washington, yet have you ever driven through West Virginia? 95% of the roads are cart paths. That's two examples off the top of my head.
I think the last few years, people have finally started to wake up and take notice to what is going on.
 
Term limits are a double-edged sword. Yes, it keeps the "lifers" out of there, but, it keeps the others from putting in enough time to lead, or "chair" important committees that make policy [re: distribute, or bring pork home]. In Michigan we have term limits, so we are at a disadvantage to other states that dont. Unfortunately, its all about connections in those circles.
BTW, just want to say that it's great to see all be so civil with each other, over a very passionate subject.
 
Another problem I see with term limits is the incentive it creates with regards to politicians 'fast tracking' the screwing process. If someone knows that they only have so long to grab whatever they can they're going to do it as quickly as possible. It will also effectively eliminate any reason to perform above average. A politicians main purpose in life once he/she gets elected is to do whatever it takes to get re-elected. If there's no chance of re-election then what's the point?

We already have term limits whether we realize it or not. They're called elections. Don't like the job the guy presently in office is doing? FIRE HIM!! Vote him out.

That's sort of my whole point in this recent election - vote out the incumbent. For all intent and purposes it's not the best way to select a candidate but it sends a clear message. Unfortunately, the present crop of politicians available to us are not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed and it may take a few elections before they actually 'get' that message.
 
We did score a small victory here in WI this past Tuesday when we voted 2 incumbents out. Time will tell if the new guys are any better. I'm not holding my breath.
 
We did score a small victory here in WI this past Tuesday when we voted 2 incumbents out. Time will tell if the new guys are any better. I'm not holding my breath.

WI did a great job!
If the new guys don't do the peoples work then vote them out. Sooner or later they'll get the word.
 
Why do I care

I don't know what kind of response I will get on this but I felt that I had to pass this on.


After listing to talk radio last week, and hearing an audiotape of the Communist party saying they support the Obama initiative. I figured I would google their web site andI was alarmed at what I found.

Read for your self.

http://www.cpusa.org/

First off when you click on the "get out the vote" tab it takes you to the AFL/CIO web site... NOW if I were a member of the AFL/CIO union I would be asking why my union was working in conjunction with the Communist Party.

GO TO THIS LINK - http://www.cpusa.org/convention-discussion-building-labor-people-s-electoral-power

You will read a lot about how they are anti big business and are for the workingman and how they are the labor movement. Hummm the hammer and sickle. Isn't that how Vladimir Lenin and the bolsheviks over through the Czar? Which gave the world Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse-tung.

But you will also read stuff like the following;



"The labor movement played a positive role during the 2008 election when Richard Trumka traveled the circuit winning white workers to understand that electing this President, an African American, was in their own best self-interests. Communists and progressives helped to magnify that message beyond union members to unorganized workers and the community at large."

AND THIS

"Working with the labor movement, civil rights, environmental and other organizations to create a groundswell that can push positive initiatives through Congress is the most important way to meet needs and prevent a right-wing takeover in the 2010 elections."


Like I said read for your self. This is who is running this country right now. Keep this in mind when you vote!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Well , As a proud Canadian with free health care LOL and a government that constantly decides what is best for me ( without consultation I might add)
I still pay about 300 bucks a month for dentist,medication ect insurance,while talking almost 50 percent of my pay, Cant find a doc if I tried , I pay 14 percent sales tax.
In the last 3 years Quebec has deemed riding a motorcycle is dangerous, so I pay 627 dollars annually for tags. Sport bikes $1300.

ENOUGH SAID !! ?

as Ronald Reagan said " America is the last true bastion of freedom on earth " If we lose it , its gone for good
 
Well , As a proud Canadian with free health care LOL and a government that constantly decides what is best for me ( without consultation I might add)
I still pay about 300 bucks a month for dentist,medication ect insurance,while talking almost 50 percent of my pay, Cant find a doc if I tried , I pay 14 percent sales tax.
In the last 3 years Quebec has deemed riding a motorcycle is dangerous, so I pay 627 dollars annually for tags. Sport bikes $1300.

ENOUGH SAID !! ?

as Ronald Reagan said " America is the last true bastion of freedom on earth " If we lose it , its gone for good

Thank you canuk. Well said.
 
How about another quote Rev? "A whispered lie is more readily believed than the truth when it is shouted". Seems the more outrageous a story is, and the more degrading it is, the more people want to believe it, especially if it's about someone or something they disagree with. There's no defending against it, cause it's a campaign of rumors, not based on fact.

Until we as a nation start checking for ourselves, looking at more than one source for our information, and start thinking as Americans and not Democrat or Republican, we're going to go farther and farther down the road to our own failure. We're divided along any line the people in power can describe, and each day they drive us a little farther apart.
 
It always amazes me how republicans lie, democrats lie, nothing ever changes and both sides blame the other. WWII veterans truly are the GREATEST generation. They save us all. But guys lets face it. You can't put Obama face on the body of the devil and pretend he's to blame for all our woes. Anymore than you could with George W. Nearly everu elected official has their own agenda and it it is almost never in our best interests. Nothing can be accomplished in the current system because the system isn't designed to accomplish anything. When a republican is president, the democrats try to block everything positive so they can get a dem in office. The republicans OPENLY said they would do the same thing to Obama. With the economy in flames and people losing their homes, jobs, life savings, the game continues. Stop listening to solely to FOX and MSNBC and watch both. The truth is always somewhere in the middle just under "the spin". Obama isn't a communist. Bush wasn't a complete moron. We should stop being loyal to "a party" and start being loyal the country. Lets stop being a country of "parties" and get to work.
 
As for cars being taken away...I doubt that would happen but the 'lawyers' are trying hard to make it more difficult to modify them and in many states, it's happening. IIRC, Massachusetts has a law that prohibits you from making changes to the exhaust system. In the Houston area where we have emissions laws on cars 25 and newer, we can't do a lot of things to them. The state even has a bare foot law that goes way back to the early days when the pedals came through the floorboards and thus would get hot after a long period. Been awhile since I checked but it was still on the books a few years ago. Wearing seat belts is good but I don't need some nanny state making me do it. And Obama may not be a commie but he sure is a socialist...he's admitted to being a progressive but he's way more left of that even. Yeah, I agree with being loyal to my country and not to any party and yes, I've voted Dem before but it was before they became what they are now.
 
It always amazes me how republicans lie, democrats lie, nothing ever changes and both sides blame the other. WWII veterans truly are the GREATEST generation. They save us all. But guys lets face it. You can't put Obama face on the body of the devil and pretend he's to blame for all our woes. Anymore than you could with George W. Nearly everu elected official has their own agenda and it it is almost never in our best interests. Nothing can be accomplished in the current system because the system isn't designed to accomplish anything. When a republican is president, the democrats try to block everything positive so they can get a dem in office. The republicans OPENLY said they would do the same thing to Obama. With the economy in flames and people losing their homes, jobs, life savings, the game continues. Stop listening to solely to FOX and MSNBC and watch both. The truth is always somewhere in the middle just under "the spin". Obama isn't a communist. Bush wasn't a complete moron. We should stop being loyal to "a party" and start being loyal the country. Lets stop being a country of "parties" and get to work.

You can say what you want about Obama. But his ties with people like Van Jones (communist), George Soros (one world government), Jeremiah Write,(Black Theology-White Hater) and also Bill Ayers,(60's radical-hates the US Government) pretty much shed light on his visions for America. Also don't forget that he has been quoted saying he believes in a single payer health system, and also believes in re distribution of wealth, which are socialist virtues.
Now I know that George Bush was tied to big business and oil, but Obama is tied to Wall Street big time. That's who got him elected.

You are right we need to be loyal to America, but we also must be loyal to our faith - morals and virtues. If we do that then we won't need the Government taking our money and give it to the poor.... we will do that on our own. We won't need the Government to regulate business.... we will do that on our own also, and the same goes for the environment.
 
Well , As a proud Canadian with free health care LOL and a government that constantly decides what is best for me ( without consultation I might add)
I still pay about 300 bucks a month for dentist,medication ect insurance,while talking almost 50 percent of my pay, Cant find a doc if I tried , I pay 14 percent sales tax.
In the last 3 years Quebec has deemed riding a motorcycle is dangerous, so I pay 627 dollars annually for tags. Sport bikes $1300.

ENOUGH SAID !! ?

as Ronald Reagan said " America is the last true bastion of freedom on earth " If we lose it , its gone for good


The deal with the bikes has been one of my biggest fears down here. The insurance Co's already tried something like back in the early 2000's not only with bikes but also Snowmobiles and any sport they consider dangerous; I suppose racing would fall into that category also. Thankfully the government shot it down.
But you can bet your bottom dollar that if the Government were running the health care we would be paying a premium for all activity's that they consider dangerous.
By the way my company health insurance went up another $60.00 a month for the high deductible using a HSA. Plus it look's like there is a possibility that my taxes are going up also....Obama Care is working it's magic.:icon_hang:
 
How about another quote Rev? "A whispered lie is more readily believed than the truth when it is shouted". Seems the more outrageous a story is, and the more degrading it is, the more people want to believe it, especially if it's about someone or something they disagree with. There's no defending against it, cause it's a campaign of rumors, not based on fact.

Until we as a nation start checking for ourselves, looking at more than one source for our information, and start thinking as Americans and not Democrat or Republican, we're going to go farther and farther down the road to our own failure. We're divided along any line the people in power can describe, and each day they drive us a little farther apart.

I like that one Buck. I totally forgot about it. (Too much crap rattling around upstairs, I reckon). Well said, all of it.
 
You can say what you want about Obama. But his ties with people like Van Jones (communist), George Soros (one world government), Jeremiah Write,(Black Theology-White Hater) and also Bill Ayers,(60's radical-hates the US Government) pretty much shed light on his visions for America. Also don't forget that he has been quoted saying he believes in a single payer health system, and also believes in re distribution of wealth, which are socialist virtues.
Now I know that George Bush was tied to big business and oil, but Obama is tied to Wall Street big time. That's who got him elected.

You are right we need to be loyal to America, but we also must be loyal to our faith - morals and virtues. If we do that then we won't need the Government taking our money and give it to the poor.... we will do that on our own. We won't need the Government to regulate business.... we will do that on our own also, and the same goes for the environment.

I could spend twenty minutes typing a detailed response dispelling and disproving everything you wrote, but that's not why I joined the site. The spin doctors on both sides tell lies to divide the country. You apparently are their target audience. You can quote your sources and proclaim it all to be true...but that doesn't actually make it true does it? For all the bickering over whether boobs and butts should be shown on a car site. It seems that politics have no discernable place here. I don't know about you, but I'd log off the minute I saw dick cheney or Obama sprawled across a hood. Anyway, not interested in thread any longer. Off to the car sections...Plus I got a 3o'clock with Ayers, Wright, and Soros to discuss Democrocomusocialism. I'm thinking if we spin it right, it might catch on. ..no hard feelings but next time can we just talk cars instead?
 
I could spend twenty minutes typing a detailed response dispelling and disproving everything you wrote, but that's not why I joined the site. The spin doctors on both sides tell lies to divide the country. You apparently are their target audience. You can quote your sources and proclaim it all to be true...but that doesn't actually make it true does it? For all the bickering over whether boobs and butts should be shown on a car site. It seems that politics have no discernable place here. I don't know about you, but I'd log off the minute I saw dick cheney or Obama sprawled across a hood. Anyway, not interested in thread any longer. Off to the car sections...Plus I got a 3o'clock with Ayers, Wright, and Soros to discuss Democrocomusocialism. I'm thinking if we spin it right, it might catch on. ..no hard feelings but next time can we just talk cars instead?


No hard feelings here...
But the funny thing is I keep hearing how people can disprove the facts, but they never seem to do it.

Yes this is a car site and a great one at that... but I think the Header says Anything Goes. If you don't want to read it then don’t.
Just like the Boobs and Buts thread... If someone is insulted by amount of skin then don't look at it... How difficult is that?

Someone posted on here how nice it was to be able to talk politics and no one was fighting, and he was right.
We all share one thing in common and that is Mopars. But it's good to talk politics every now and then even though we may not agree all the time but that's ok.
 
No hard feelings here...
But the funny thing is I keep hearing how people can disprove the facts, but they never seem to do it.

Yes this is a car site and a great one at that... but I think the Header says Anything Goes. If you don't want to read it then don’t.
Just like the Boobs and Buts thread... If someone is insulted by amount of skin then don't look at it... How difficult is that?

Someone posted on here how nice it was to be able to talk politics and no one was fighting, and he was right.
We all share one thing in common and that is Mopars. But it's good to talk politics every now and then even though we may not agree all the time but that's ok.

Talkin politics and talkin boobs and butts is kinda the same thing. Ain't it?
 
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