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Pentastar Emblem

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Ok this is driving me nuts. Actually the wife thinks I'm already there, but......... my '70 GTX has a pentastar emblem on the passenger side front fender, but not on the driver's side. Is this correct? I have looked at hundreds of pictures of '70 B body Plymouths and cannot find one with the emblem on the driver's side, which tells me that is the way it should be, but it seems strange to only have it on one side. DSCN3637.jpgDSCN3635.jpg
 
yup - 1970GTX that's a pretty good question why only the right front fender another good one would be when did they start using the penstar ok people chime in on this one :thinker:
 
It's on the right side of the car so folks that walk by when it's parallel parked along the curb, could see it. Consensus was (and pretty much still is) that most walk looking downwards and the pentastar was placed on that side and low so it could be easily seen and be associated with the Chrysler product. It was thought that most don't ever see what's higher up off the ground and have no idea what kind of cars they walk by but that little star was usually noticed. Can't remember but I think I read that in some Chrysler publication a long time ago lol. Might do some research on it and see what pops up. Chrysler quit doing that many moons ago but I usually stick one on my newer junk anyways....
 
[h=2][/h]The Pentastar was created by Robert Stanley, at the Lippincott & Marguiles design firm. He wanted, according to his blog entry, “something simple, a classic, dynamic but stable shape for a mark that would lend itself to a highly designed, styled product. What that meant, basically, was a classic geometric form. We wanted something that was not stolid. That’s the reason that we broke up the pentagonal form that became the Pentastar. It provides a certain tension and a dynamic quality.” [This was reversed by Trevor Creed].

The [original] Pentastar was selected from more than 800 suggestions that a team from the design firm of Lippincott & Margulies Inc. proposed to the company.
“We were looking for something that would not be too complicated for people to remember and still have a very strong, engineered look to it,” said Robert Stanley. “We wanted something people could look at and say, ‘This was not done freehand.’”
In Chrysler’s annual report, they noted “A new Corporate Identity Office was established to be concerned with the manner in which the company identifies and visually presents itself and its products to the public. The [pentastar] emblem portrayed on the cover was developed as part of this broad program.”
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The Pentastar started showing up in ads with the 1963 model year; after initial production started, it was placed behind the right front wheel on 1963 model-year cars. Charlie Pfefferkorn, whose family owned Spaulding’s Garage (a DeSoto-Plymouth dealer and then a Chrysler-Plymouth shop) said that dealers were sent a Pentastar medallion kit for each 1963 car they had received before the factory started installing them. Spaudling’s Garage, and probably many other dealers, didn’t install them on cars they had already sold — Charlie said it would have been absurd to call customers and tell them they needed to bring their cars in for a bit of trim Chrysler had forgotten. The original Pentastars, incidentally, came with not one but two grips — the second, smaller pin was not just for location but also for extra grip (as shown in the photos.)
It first showed up in ads with the 1963 models, and started showing up on the 1963 cars behind the right front wheel, making its way to key blanks with the 1964 models. Prior to that, the Chrysler corporate logo was a pair of V-shapes, usually shown pointing to the right, part of Virgil Exner's "Forward Look" school of design. The new pentastar logo was also used on the front cover of the 1962 Annual Report — as an embossed cover (without any ink to set it off) — and on the back cover, in a deep blue.
In 1963, Bob Hope’s variety show (sponsored by the Chrysler Corporation) included opening graphics showing the segments of the Pentastar zooming into place with vroom-vroom noises, each piece accompanied by a callout of a brand - Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler, Imperial, and Dodge trucks.
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However, Bill Watson wrote noted that the five points do not stand for the five car divisions; at the time, Chrysler sold cars (Valiant, Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler, Imperial, Hillman, Sunbeam, Singer, Humber, Simca), trucks (Dodge, Fargo, DeSoto, Commer, Karrier, Barreiros), industrial and marine engines, boats, army tanks, air conditioners, heating systems, chemicals, plastics, missiles, electronics, and financial products. Bill also noted that the design would be recognizable no matter which way you looked at it, even if the design was flipped or looked at upside down.​

Original is at Chrysler’s Pentastar (history of the logo) http://www.allpar.com/corporate/pentastar.html#ixzz2T8HOX3tO
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Advertising manufacturer when car is parallel parked. What worries me now is that I must have forgotten something important....
 
the pentastar was put on the passenger side to counteract the wieght of the driver and steering on opposite side.




^^ good therory haha??
 
the pentastar was put on the passenger side to counteract the wieght of the driver and steering on opposite side.




^^ good therory haha??
That doen't explain your right hand drive cars. Did they come with a pentastar?
 
The last car that I had with a Pentastar on it was a 1995 Plymouth neon... I thought it was about the only thing in common with my road runner.
 
My 64 Dodge has it, but I don't recall ever having seen one on a 63. Any pics to show 63's did have them?.....................................MO
 
I have heard the curbside story, and I have heard another explanation. It was a subtle way to let the passenger know they were getting into a Chrysler Corporation car when they walked up to it. It was reasoned that the driver already knew it was a Chrysler car as they were most likely the owner, so they didn't need a pentastar on that side. At the time Ford had started putting the blue oval on the sill plate, and GM had the Fisher logo there for years. So, Chrysler felt this way people knew before they opened the door who made the car. They suposedly stopped using them in 1972, but some early '73 models have them.

You will notice that most cars have for years had a name plate or logo somewhere on the passenger side of the dash. This is another way to let the person know what car they're riding in.

Mopar started putting the logo on the fenders again in the 90's. At the time the company was criticised for using the pentastar too much during the Iaccoa years. It was blamed in part for the decline in Plymouth since the pentastar was the same as Dodge cars, and there was a lack of separate identity. Each division got new logos and the pentastar returned to the fenders as a corporate only logo.

When Bob Lutz went to work for GM in the 2000's, he remembered the pentastar logo on the fenders of Chrysler cars. He was proud of the changes he made in styling and wanted people to know they were GM cars when they admired them. As each new design came to production, he made sure they had GM logos on the fenders.
 
Now that was hilarious. ( the wifey didn't get it)

Every Mopar I have owned from the 60's had one. 63 Dart, several 64 Valiants, 66 Cuda, 69 Cuda, 69 Dart and both 68 GTX's. Boy would I love to have some of these cars back!!


the pentastar was put on the passenger side to counteract the wieght of the driver and steering on opposite side.




^^ good therory haha??
 
passenger side only...when selling a 67 GTX a local "mopar expert buyer" stated the car was incomplete as the emblem was missing on the driver's side. I ended the showing.
 
When Bob Lutz went to work for GM in the 2000's, he remembered the pentastar logo on the fenders of Chrysler cars. He was proud of the changes he made in styling and wanted people to know they were GM cars when they admired them. As each new design came to production, he made sure they had GM logos on the fenders.

I knew there was some rational explanation for this.

Did they start with the HHR/PT platform that he took with him?

It still burns me that Mopar quit making these, even though they were still selling at the originally projected levels, instead of making them better able to compete with the obvious knock offs.


...and the whole "one side only" thing is just another one of those eccentricities that makes them special.
 
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