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Fbbo....we have ignition and lift off....

cr8crshr

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Today....After numerous set backs and disappointments, the 1966 Plymouth Satellite has once again come back to life and this time with a vengeance. Just to bring you all up to date, I had to do an engine swap...short block with the first engine due to a continual knocking in the 1st one. After getting most of the parts transferred over from the 1st to the 2nd engine, I buttoned it up and set out to fire it up last week. Well the new engine cranked and cranked but wouldn't light off. An occasional back fire through the carb told us that we were 180 degrees out so we fixed that and tried it again. Still would not light off. Well we at first thought it was because the distributor drive was off about 20 degrees before or after being at horizontal and parallel to the cam shaft. Well come to find out that that isn't really an issue as long as one is @TDC and the #1 plug wire post is aligned with the rotor correctly. OK...Good news there. But why the problems with not lighting off??? So...We took apart the front end of the engine and removed the carb/intake/valley pan so as to take a look see deeper into the engine as to why we weren't getting it to light off. Prior to this we had checked all electrical for proper voltages, wires attached and properly routed and hooked up and were rewarded with it being correct and right. Also checked the timing gear and chain to see if I had not aligned it up correctly on dial in. Looked correct but I wasn't happy with that timing gear and chain set so I swapped it out for a slightly better set up and got it degreed in.

All of a sudden my crew chief...Brother Jon/aka: 69a100 says we don't have the engine at TDC on the compression stroke. Sure enough he was correct. Now normally for start up this isn't a problem because either TDC on compression or exhaust will light an engine off. Where we had an error was in the valve lashing. We had lashed the valves while it was at TDC on the exhaust side and not on the compression side. This caused the engine to be lashed 180 degrees out even after following the proper sequence and rotation to lash the valves and lifter preload. So by doing it we had every one of the lifters complete compressed and there for no way was it going to light off. So...we removed the rocker arms and checked for damage. All was good there. I run mostly Hughes Engines Cams in my builds as I have had excellent results in the past with their products and tech advise. Brother Jon suggested making a call back to there facility in Illinois which he did. He got in touch with Dave and after their conversation it was suggested that we check each push rod for correct length and swap out the lifters for new ones that are better suited for my specific needs for the 383 engine I run. So yesterday the parts showed up and we reset the valve lash/lifter pre-load following Hughes' instruction sheet and got it all buttoned back up. I didn't have time to fire it up so we set today as the day and this morning it fired right up on the first cranks. Buzzed it up to about 1500-2000 rpm on the tac and blipped the throttle to get the new valves and lifters happy and the rings and other systems broken and seated in and happy. 30 minutes of run time we back it down to a normal idle and ran the tranny in neutral to get that part of the build operating properly. Pulled it out of the garage and took it for a short jaunt up the street and back to do a primarily drive test. Man it was great seeing it back on the street after 6 months of nothing but set backs. There is still a lot more to do on the car. Front end ride height adjusted and aligned, door hinges swapped out for the NOS ones I have, windshield removed and replaced after the headliner is installed, and the rest of the interior finished. Once that is all accomplished I am done with the resto work and ready for some road cruising. This entire project so far has been ongoing now for over 8 years but once you see the attached videos and the thumbs up and smile on my face, it was all worth.

Finally I want to thank the many members here on FBBO that have helped by offering encouragement and moral as well as actual support during the "Struggle Period" on this build. You kept encouraging me to not give up and bail out of this wonderful but agonizing hobby we all so love. Budnicks, MeepMeep, RystyRatRod, 69a100, and all the others that have offered advise and accumulated wisdom, I am forever grateful and say a big Thank You. Not much more can I say. I think the videos speak for themselves so enjoy the videos...cr8crshr/Tuck

http://youtu.be/3AoGr__bVMQ Initial fire up and engine break in...check the face grin and the thumbs up

http://youtu.be/gG0PxOwmOns First pass up the block

http://youtu.be/anejMtR3LGo Return trip from up the block
 
Ummmmmm, you have 3 of the same vids here and the audio really sucks too!
 
Yea Ha, Congrats you finally get to enjoy it & go out & have fun now !!
 
cr8crshr/Tuck all those links are "the same" video & they all have some serious feed back, while being recorded, then played back... just a heads up
 
Ummmmmm, you have 3 of the same vids here and the audio really sucks too!

Ya but a good ending to the story, congrats guys!

Update
Hey fixed vid while I was posting, nice.
 
never mind it's fixed now
 
cr8crshr/Tuck all those links are "the same" video & they all have some serious feed back, while being recorded, then played back... just a heads up

Fixed, jut the garage shot has bad audio.
 
Congrats, sounds like you really had to work for it.
 
Congrats, sounds like you really had to work for it.

You have no idea how much of a PITA it's been to get to this point. Go watch the vid from March and listen to the knock from the 1st motor.
 
Hey bro, just reading on torsion bars, loosing the bolts will raise the front. Bolts are already looser than the tarnished area, tightening will only lower the front. I think your sway bar is causing it to hug the front lower. Others, chime in as I think the stance looks good as is. Discuss!
 
turning the torsion bar adjustment bolt "in clockwise" will raise the cars front end, counter clockwise will lower it... stance looked pretty good in the videos...
 
turning the torsion bar adjustment bolt "in clockwise" will raise the cars front end, counter clockwise will lower it... stance looked pretty good in the videos...

I guess your right, I'm thinkin reverse logic, makes sense. I think it looks good also, there's about 1 1/2" rake to it now as it sits.
 
Yeah that didn't sound too pretty, I'm with them "it looks good" as a matter of fact that is one sweet car "love that body style".
 
F***N A!!! congrats guys!! looooong time comin!! sounds awesome and the stance looks great..
 
Thanks all and keep the motivation coming for the next phases of completion. I do like the ride height but it just seems a tad too low. I want the ride height to be set before I get the front end aligned. Seems most shops that do alignments don't understand or even know what the first step is with MOPARS. Set the ride height first and then aligned. I can pretty much get the height where I am happy so I will tinker with it some. I am only running 14 inch Magnums as well. Would like 15's just because but the 14's I have had for a long time so it was a natural to use them. It is kind of anti-climactic now that I am up and running properly because all the focus as of late has been in getting this engine situation sorted out. But I have enough to keep me quite busy now in finishing it up.
 
glad to here she is up and running well.i know you went through a buch of bull crap to get her going,its always so nice to finally drive a car that has caused so much frustration.good luck with the next steps,keep us informed.
 
Wound up adjusting the ride height and have it now where I like it today. Drained the cooling system...ran H2O for the initial...and replaced with anti-freeze and a rust inhibitor. Got the timing pretty darn close to my liking but the car is running real rich so I will work at getting that sorted out and most likely swap springs and jets on the Carterbrock. But it is running better with each time I have taken it out in the neighborhood so far. Those 3:91 gears are gonna smoke some tires...not the ones on there now but some cheapo rims and rubber. I am thinking that the 3:91 gears are a tad too tall for my eventual use of the car so I might drop down to 3:55's for a more easier ride. All I would need is a sure grip unit as I have the gears and 3rd member already. But that is way off in the distance as I have now got to get it registered and looked at for licensing and registration. Being that this is a salvage car and a collector car too, I can get away with not having done it initially because it was in parts and stripped down to nothing as I was working on it. CA does have a way with screwing with us but I got my Ducks together so it should be no problems. I will hopefully have a temp permit to transport/drive it to the alignment shop and then I can start to drive it more often. But finally it is getting better and better....cr8crshr/Tuck
 
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Today....After numerous set backs and disappointments, the 1966 Plymouth Satellite has once again come back to life and this time with a vengeance. Just to bring you all up to date, I had to do an engine swap...short block with the first engine due to a continual knocking in the 1st one. After getting most of the parts transferred over from the 1st to the 2nd engine, I buttoned it up and set out to fire it up last week. Well the new engine cranked and cranked but wouldn't light off. An occasional back fire through the carb told us that we were 180 degrees out so we fixed that and tried it again. Still would not light off. Well we at first thought it was because the distributor drive was off about 20 degrees before or after being at horizontal and parallel to the cam shaft. Well come to find out that that isn't really an issue as long as one is @TDC and the #1 plug wire post is aligned with the rotor correctly. OK...Good news there. But why the problems with not lighting off??? So...We took apart the front end of the engine and removed the carb/intake/valley pan so as to take a look see deeper into the engine as to why we weren't getting it to light off. Prior to this we had checked all electrical for proper voltages, wires attached and properly routed and hooked up and were rewarded with it being correct and right. Also checked the timing gear and chain to see if I had not aligned it up correctly on dial in. Looked correct but I wasn't happy with that timing gear and chain set so I swapped it out for a slightly better set up and got it degreed in.

All of a sudden my crew chief...Brother Jon/aka: 69a100 says we don't have the engine at TDC on the compression stroke. Sure enough he was correct. Now normally for start up this isn't a problem because either TDC on compression or exhaust will light an engine off. Where we had an error was in the valve lashing. We had lashed the valves while it was at TDC on the exhaust side and not on the compression side. This caused the engine to be lashed 180 degrees out even after following the proper sequence and rotation to lash the valves and lifter preload. So by doing it we had every one of the lifters complete compressed and there for no way was it going to light off. So...we removed the rocker arms and checked for damage. All was good there. I run mostly Hughes Engines Cams in my builds as I have had excellent results in the past with their products and tech advise. Brother Jon suggested making a call back to there facility in Illinois which he did. He got in touch with Dave and after their conversation it was suggested that we check each push rod for correct length and swap out the lifters for new ones that are better suited for my specific needs for the 383 engine I run. So yesterday the parts showed up and we reset the valve lash/lifter pre-load following Hughes' instruction sheet and got it all buttoned back up. I didn't have time to fire it up so we set today as the day and this morning it fired right up on the first cranks. Buzzed it up to about 1500-2000 rpm on the tac and blipped the throttle to get the new valves and lifters happy and the rings and other systems broken and seated in and happy. 30 minutes of run time we back it down to a normal idle and ran the tranny in neutral to get that part of the build operating properly. Pulled it out of the garage and took it for a short jaunt up the street and back to do a primarily drive test. Man it was great seeing it back on the street after 6 months of nothing but set backs. There is still a lot more to do on the car. Front end ride height adjusted and aligned, door hinges swapped out for the NOS ones I have, windshield removed and replaced after the headliner is installed, and the rest of the interior finished. Once that is all accomplished I am done with the resto work and ready for some road cruising. This entire project so far has been ongoing now for over 8 years but once you see the attached videos and the thumbs up and smile on my face, it was all worth.

Finally I want to thank the many members here on FBBO that have helped by offering encouragement and moral as well as actual support during the "Struggle Period" on this build. You kept encouraging me to not give up and bail out of this wonderful but agonizing hobby we all so love. Budnicks, MeepMeep, RystyRatRod, 69a100, and all the others that have offered advise and accumulated wisdom, I am forever grateful and say a big Thank You. Not much more can I say. I think the videos speak for themselves so enjoy the videos...cr8crshr/Tuck

http://youtu.be/3AoGr__bVMQ Initial fire up and engine break in...check the face grin and the thumbs up

http://youtu.be/gG0PxOwmOns First pass up the block

http://youtu.be/anejMtR3LGo Return trip from up the block
I am glad for you. Good to see a project come to completion.
 
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