Stud rod bushing... need help

brasil · Nov 4, 2013

Hello Guys..

I am changing out my frontend bushings and tierods...

The question : I bought Moog stud rod bushings.. do I need to "reuse" the Big Washer that sits between the two halfs of the bushing ? From the front view ...there is the nut first, the a big washer... next comes a Bushing half... Crossmember from "behind " there is a washer a big one.. then the next bushing half.
But with the MOOG Bushings the Washer behind the crossmember doesn´t fit... ??

Any ideas ... or can I just leave the washer away...

Thank you for your help

Jürgen

super-bee_ski · Nov 4, 2013

Im not sure

5.7 hemi · Nov 4, 2013

Here's the order.....nut, big washer, bushing, sleeve on the strut rod, bushing, big washer.

ga66mopar · Nov 4, 2013

Yeah what he said

You don't put a washer between the two half bushing. The big washers only go on the ends of the bushings.

black64 · Nov 4, 2013

Here is a picture for you.

brasil · Nov 4, 2013

Thank you guys !!

The pic from black 64 helps a lot ! I will make a foto tomorrow..to show you the "third washer".. looks original..but the pic from black 64 tells another Story...

Thank you
Greetings Juergen

brasil · Nov 5, 2013

Here are some pic from my todays work.... incl. the Studrod bushings.. the "old ones were made of Urethane...perhaps that was the reason for the 3rd washer ?
The first Foto shows the "new set-up " with the MOOG rubber bushings... the second Foto shows the "old " set-up with the urethane bushings and the "misterious washer "

Greetings Juergen

tallhair · Nov 5, 2013

Nice work there Juergen

brasil · Nov 6, 2013

Thank you tallhair !

But now I have a new " Problem"... looks like one of the Strut Rods is bent... on the end where the bushings are, the rod looks like a " Z Curve "... I think I have to look for new ones ( unfortunatly difficult to find here in Germany )

Greetings Juergen

Funship32 · Nov 6, 2013

brasil said:
Thank you tallhair !

But now I have a new " Problem"... looks like one of the Strut Rods is bent... on the end where the bushings are, the rod looks like a " Z Curve "... I think I have to look for new ones ( unfortunatly difficult to find here in Germany )

Greetings Juergen

If you can't straighten it then look at either P-S-T or Firm Feel as they have them.

AMX364 · Nov 6, 2013

You should be able straighten them in a press. I have done that many times.

brasil · Nov 7, 2013

Today I straighten the strut rods.. works well now... so the only parts I am waiting for are the Dust boots. When they arrive I will put the 0.96 Torsion bars back in.

BTW is it a good idea to set the Camber to 0 deg ? Toe in aprox. 1/8 " ...

Greetings Juergen

Funship32 · Nov 7, 2013

Juergen,

Look at this: http://www.allpar.com/history/mopar/front-end-alignment.html

brasil · Nov 9, 2013

... today I finished the front suspension workshop

But there is one stange issue.... the bolts that raises /lowers the pressure on the Torsion Bars have different numbers of turns...
or in other words.. the diffference are 5 turns !! Is that normal ? I installed the bars like this... the LCA showed downwards.... the bolts that attach the lever were fully turned down ( also the levers were all in the LCA...the Torsion Bars went in smooth... but on the driverside ...it looks like the Torsion bar is " softer "...the bars are new btw. 0.96 from Mopar Performance (Made in Canada )
Should I remove the drivers side bar again ???

Thank you for your advise

Greetings Juergen

P.S Pic 1 shows the drivers side Pic 2 the passenger side

bm02tj · Nov 9, 2013

do you know any one in commercial truck inspection as they should have portable scales to weight each wheel as it could be a rear spring
a car is normally heavier on the pass side to off set the driver
or you have a bad bar and this info will help you figure it out

brasil · Nov 10, 2013

...I know that the engine sits a little Offset to the pass side... but the funny thing is , that the "old T-Bars" set in the same way... drivers side pretension bolt was about 1 inch more inside than the pass side ( and the pass side is the heavier one...as you said )
I was thinking, that probably the HEX Insert has to be turned 60 deg ... but there is no room for turning the LCA more downwards...

Hmmm.... ????

Greetings Juergen

BeastlyBirdie · Nov 10, 2013

Totally normal.

brasil · Nov 10, 2013

..just came back from my garage... and I agree with you Beastly Birdie. Because there is no way to change the angle between the rear crossmember and the LCA . So I have to live with that little imperfection. But the new TB ´s are tons better than the old 0.88 bars..
while braking..the front of the car nearly doesn´t "sink" . JUst STOPS ! Love it !

Greetings Juergen

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