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Yard find

DJD said:
I am more concerned with the engine stamp on the passenger side just rear of the motor mount. that is #9G294248. Is that a VIN?
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Those are last #'s of a VIN. From a '69 car from St. Louis plant, unfortunately not matching #'s. Looks like standard drum brakes & axle, maybe someone robbed a track pack car? Regardless a really neat car, looks rust free, great find.

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Would be interesting to see what trans it has, maybe a hemi 4-speed given the Dana? You could make some $ if so. Check the trans pad, should have last digits of VIN same as engine.
 
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396 Signet said:
Those are last #'s of a VIN. From a '69 car from St. Louis plant, unfortunately not matching #'s. Looks like standard drum brakes & axle, maybe someone robbed a track pack car? Regardless a really neat car, looks rust free, great find.

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Would be interesting to see what trans it has, maybe a hemi 4-speed given the Dana? You could make some $ if so. Check the trans pad, should have last digits of VIN same as engine.
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The trans is a 833 4 speed.

I read pp8332876 as new process 833 also built in 69.
I know were past believing ( still hoping though) they are borne with.--BUT-- didn't Production of the 70 model end in Dec. 1969? Mine was made in Nov of 69 so shouldn't part numbers be dated 1969?? Trans, differential , engine etc.
 
DJD said:
I read pp8332876 as new process 833 also built in 69.
I know were past believing ( still hoping though) they are borne with.--BUT-- didn't Production of the 70 model end in Dec. 1969? Mine was made in Nov of 69 so shouldn't part numbers be dated 1969?? Trans, differential , engine etc.
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The 9 in the engine VIN portion means the model year, not the year it was made. The trans code 2876 is the date it was made which should be 6-12-69 or the tail end of the 1969 model year. The portion I can read on the trans S/N appears to be the same as the engine S/N. Are you sure the engine is a 383 & not a 440? If a 440 then should have the hemi 4-speed. You can't tell whether it's a hemi 4-speed by external markings but you can remove the inspection cover & eyeball the bearing retainer for positive ID. Of course if it came with the same S/N as a 383 then no way will it be. Anyway, it's a virtual certainty that it's not the original drivetrain but it has nice options & color so who cares?
 
I'm enjoying this. Some day I'll have all the part numbers identified+know what they came from. Maybe.Whats interesting is the guy I bought it from has owned it since the mid 70"s. He is no way mechanically inclined. He did nothing to it. I ask if it was the original ENGINE. He said he thought the first owner mentioned he replaced the 440 with the existing 383. Confusing because the fender tag says it was born with a 383. Seems unlikely it would come with a 383 --then replaced with a 440-- which was removed and replaced with another 383 all with in the first 5-6 years of the cars life.
I looked for the build sheet under the carpet,door panels, under front seats, under back seat upper and lower. Inside rear window quarters, behind dash and around glovebox, under rear window package tray.--nothing. I know that Ford build sheets can be found with a Marty report. Can my build sheet be obtained from Mopar?
 
That guy's memory is probably semi accurate. No Chrysler build info after 1967, something about a fire destroying the records. You have the data plate which should tell you the important stuff. Build sheet is a crap shoot, lots didn't have them. You can check the VIN sequence # on the rad support & left trunk lip under weather strip to get a good feeling the car isn't pieced together.
 
Dang. I thought I read where there was a cutoff date for the build sheet.
Rad. support matched vin. Cant read the trunk number.

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As stated previously yes that's a Dana. Great find! Look under the rear seat springs for the build sheet. Wash that runner and lets see her in the daylight.
 
If the 5th picture is of the number on the trunk rail, you are looking in the wrong area. You need to go back and look under the weather stripping, not in the drain trough.
 
Seems unlikely it would come with a 383 --then replaced with a 440-- which was removed and replaced with another 383 all with in the first 5-6 years of the cars life.


a lot of these cars were driven hard, some went thru several engines in a short time. Guys would swap in what ever engine they had laying around or picked up cheap. What ever the story on your car is, it's a great find. Have fun with it.
 
Stuff shown looks good. You have the high $ max cooling radiator. Front discs look like the Bendix 4-piston variety from a pre-70 car. 70 B's used the single piston type mounted on the forward part of the wheel. Again appears like parts were transferred from other car(s) but they used some really good stuff. What color will it be? The blue looks good but it would be a knockout with the original bright yellow & black.
 
DJD said:
The trans is a 833 4 speed.

I read pp8332876 as new process 833 also built in 69.
I know were past believing ( still hoping though) they are borne with.--BUT-- didn't Production of the 70 model end in Dec. 1969? Mine was made in Nov of 69 so shouldn't part numbers be dated 1969?? Trans, differential , engine etc.
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No, production ends in July of any given model year, so the end of the '69 production would've been sometime in mid-July 1969. The 1970 production would've started roughly two weeks later, around the first of August 1969, and run through the second week of July 1970. So, your scheduled build date, the VIN and the other info clearly indicate your car is a 1970.
 
Thanks Patrick66 for that info.
Well no wonder the car has less than 100,000 miles on it. It spent all it's time in the shop getting parts swapped on and off the car.
This really makes it easier from here on. I don't have to think about finding correct parts to keep it original now.--
So -HERE WE GO- I installed new shocks on the front and repaired the front stabilizer bracket. Rebuilt the carb. Ordered a D.U.I Tri Power distributer, platinum plugs , Live wires and black carpet kit from Summit. The new fuel pump and heater core are already here. But it's 10 degrees and 4 inches of snow outside.
 
and since it doesn't appear to be a numbers matching car, have a blast with it.
 
Try under the front seat's back covers (if buckets). Have found them there before.

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kowalski said:
Try under the front seat's back covers (if buckets). Have found them there before.

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It has a front bench seat. I looked under it and didn't see it. I'm going to remove the seat and look better this week.

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SAM_4277.jpgWhat would be the correct graphics to be on the air cleaner when on a 1970 838 roadrunner with air grabber hood including Performance hood treatment?
 
You guys question somewhat the fact that a car may have had two or even three engines over a certain time period. Absolutely possible! My old '69 Dart GTS 440 (one of 635) car that I owned in 1988-89 was like this. The guy I bought it from got it with a '70 383 in it, but had installed a date-coded '69 440 during the restoration. After I bought the car, I managed to contact all EIGHT of the previous owners from 1969 to 1988. Remember, this was pre-Interwebz days; with lots of letters and expensive long-distance phone calls involved in good old-fashioned detective work. This involved owners and DMVs in three other states! Over the twenty years prior to my ownership, the car had the original 440, then a 383, another 440, and another 383 before receiving the 440 the car had when I purchased it. Five engines in twenty years.

To me, I'd be more impressed with a muscle car actually having its' original engine over a 20 to 40-year period. At least one engine swap in a muscle car would be almost an expectation, if the car had been driven as most were in the day!

Your Runner looks like it's going to be a fun and interesting project. That Air Grabber hood and the Dana are bonus points, for certain. Your build thread ought to be a fun one! Best of luck!
 
Got the engine running by doing several things . New D.U.I Tri power Distributor with Live Wires. Platinum plugs. Rebuilt the carb and installed a manual choke. New Alt and belt and gas lines. New carpet is in. Removed all the panels to get all the windows working good. Going to keep those covers and glue the areas that need it. The seats were getting hard and cracking so I ordered new front and rear and I'll strip the old ones off and install the new ones. Maybe I'll find the build sheet. Removed the rear bumper today. Think I'll order a new one. This one is pretty beat up.
Someone mentioned that their Air Grabber switch was red or orange. I found that one in the glove box.
 
Wow that's one hell of a find and my favorite year for Plymouth B bodies. Enjoy your car, and on behalf of everyone I gotta ask for more pictures lol. What a score :icon_thumleft:
 
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