Engine area of matching numbers semi-survivor ..clean and paint it or leave it?

ArtistStan · Feb 10, 2015

I have a couple cars, a 1969 Roadrunner and a 1967 GTX and they are more or less survivors with rebuilt engines and one paint job, same color as it came from the factory. In both cases, those who took care of these cars have left under the hood engine area pretty rough to keep the factory markings etc, and they did the same thing with the inside door areas to preserve factory markings. Will it de-value the care to clean up the engine area and paint it or should I keep it rough with factory markings? All perspectives are welcomed.

monaco66coupe · Feb 10, 2015

I also have a 67' GTX, and it is all about your personal preference. You could document everything, restore it and apply the markings, like all the other show cars out there. or, drive and enjoy it.

moparcrazy · Feb 10, 2015

i would love to see pics of what you have !!

I'm currently in the process of redoing my engine bay and decided to go with the factory color but in satin finish so not to out shine the rest of the car....But in the process as i was cleaning it cleaned up really nice i thought!! and almost felt like just leaving it that way ( Ya Right For About 3~Seconds) anyway ill try to post pics

inspector · Feb 10, 2015

How do you know that the 67 is # matching? I may be wrong,but I think Mopar didn't put vin # on blocks until 68 or 69

patrick66 · Feb 11, 2015

If the date code on the block casting is earlier than the scheduled build date of the car, it means it more than likely has the original engine. There's your "numbers-matching" on a '67-earlier Mopar.

Lionized · Feb 11, 2015

Document and replace factory markings if you feel it needs to be freshened up (resprayed).

ArtistStan · Feb 11, 2015

Thanks all for the responses.. I do want it freshened up I believe. That is my preference and as you say, I can put the markings back.

moparcrazy · Feb 12, 2015

Befor and after

ArtistStan · Feb 12, 2015

really nice moparcrazy.. I am wondering if I can have someone freshen up the engine area of this car without pulling out the motor. Wanted to get it cleaned, some matching paint etc. Here's some pictures that show what it looks like today. It is a 69 Roadrunner.

Lionized · Feb 12, 2015

You could do a lot of it yourself. Especially if you're not going to pull the engine. Engine degreaser and brake cleaner will freshen it up. Once that's done you could go over the areas with some touch up paint. Get a small batch made up at your local body shop. Take your time with the prep work and you'll be satisfied with the results. If you have access to an air compressor you can purchase a touch up gun. I used to use it for door jambs and smaller repair areas. Mine looked just like this although I installed an inline regulator:

moparcrazy · Feb 12, 2015

a shop charged me $1000.00 last time i had it done to my charger...This time my cost was $158.00 Done by me...well and a friend

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ArtistStan said:
really nice moparcrazy.. I am wondering if I can have someone freshen up the engine area of this car without pulling out the motor. Wanted to get it cleaned, some matching paint etc. Here's some pictures that show what it looks like today. It is a 69 Roadrunner.

mmissile · Feb 13, 2015

Since when, are repainted cars survivors? Paint under the hood.

patrick66 · Feb 13, 2015

ANY paint work negates "survivor" status, sorry! Even repainting the block, air cleaner, etc, if you want to be really picky about things. It's your car, do what you want to. Enjoy it without someone else determining picking things apart for you.

ArtistStan · Feb 15, 2015

I know it is not a true survivor, that's why I described it as semi-survivor, meaning they tried but did not succeed because they painted some of it.. The comment was meant to describe condition of car, not to label it. Thanks for all the help!!

HawkRod · Feb 15, 2015

To me, "survivor" status is not binary. One part of the car re-sprayed does not automatically disqualify the car as an original survivor. The more you do, the less of a survivor it is.

In my opinion, evaluate the rest of the car and how many things have been refurbished over the years. If it has only had one exterior paint job and the rest of the car is original, that it very cool, and I would suggest to leave it alone. Right now, you can claim that under the hood it is 100% original. With new paint, you can't. I would check out your car with more interest at a car show with it being untouched under the hood.

You asked for opinions, and that it mine. Of course, as it is your car, do what YOU want...

Hawk

Propwash · Feb 17, 2015

It's been repainted once already, I'm sure you'd get a lot of folks arguing it being a "survivor". I don't think considering a car a "semi-survivor" will add any resale value to your car, considering "semi-survivor" really isn't in the vocabulary, resale wise. IMO, you'd be better off resale wise repainting and recreating the factory markings and replacing the emission, antifreeze and misc stickers. It's easier to sell shiny paint than it is rust.

ArtistStan · Feb 22, 2015

thanks for all the advice

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