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Any twin or single turbo cars out there?

Bone

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I am in the early stages of a build and will be doing a twin turbo wedge. looking for some help planning and would love to see what is out there.
 
I know of a twin turbo low deck stroker (451), but I don't know if the guy is on this site. The guy who built my engine did this one also and here's what he said:

Engine made 795 TQ @ 4000 rpm / 955 HP @ 7000 rpm. It would just keep climbing on power the more you turned it. I thought the valvetrain would become unstable around 6500 rpm but it liked the rpm. We didnt run it up higher that 7 so I don't know when it would of stopped making power,but I doubt it would of went much higher before peaking.
 
we do have a guy on her with a 451ci IIRC he lives here in Calif.,
NorCal Delta area IIRC & it's a single turbo

Damn I can't remember his screen name off hand...

I have had a few Blown combos & a couple of turbo combos on
diesels tow rigs mostly & even domestic & foreign POS car's years ago

nothing like forced induction, boost, blown, turbo or in a bottle even

https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1hEQbGRJ_Q
 
lmao
hopefully my car will have a couple more hamsters when done
 
lmao
hopefully my car will have a couple more hamsters when done

What do you have in mind Bone? Would love to hear what you're thinking?

I've love the TT idea it's just the room and plumbing that need a significant amount of planning
 
I am in the early stages of a build and will be doing a twin turbo wedge. looking for some help planning and would love to see what is out there.

I am also wondering what direction you are going? Hp goals? Street car? ect.

I have been looking into the boost idea myself a bit, but not a lot of mopar combos out there on the net in the power range I am considering. I am thinking something like an 8 psi street setup. Find builds out there of guys aiming for 2000hp for example.. Looking at bbc for reference but same thing, lots of 1500hp plus builds.

I like the article about the 67 charger mentioned in post 3, but again hardly any technical information presented, one pic.

Quote from the article

"A dyno visit showed 729 RWHP and 711 RWTQ, followed by 18 MPG on the return trip"


Power goals are similar to what I would like to acomplish and its a street car. The picture suggest and air to water intercoler to me, but no cam specs, turbo specs, ect.
 
First off some back ground
#1 I don't know crap about cars. granted I love mopars ever have since high school when my buddy had a challenger and we use to street race some. I tried to buy a 440 r/t six pack in high school and my folks shot it down and have been hooked ever since.
#2 I realize I don't know anything about cars so I have been reading and trying to learn like a mad man. My office at home and kindle now has more car books then work books.
#3 Since I know I don't know that much I have been lurking here for several years trying to soak up information
#4 In my profession I work with my hands and would like to think I have some basic skills, but I will need to continue to grow in terms of automotive skills
All that being said I know how to work, I know how to ask for help and I have set a side a considerable budget to make this happen. Not overnight as I would like but its going to happen.

The car will not be stock, or appear stock or hint at stock. I have sarcastically called this my "sleeper" project. More often then not though I refer to it as the 10lb hamburger, as in where do you take the first bite.
The car 1971 satellite. Some poor guy wanted to build a cannon ball run car and sunk a ton of money and fab work in to it before I picked it up. Body is solid, all metal car except for a fiberglass hood that I may or may not keep. The car has a full roll cage from the engine compartment to the trunk, 20gal fuel cell, subframe connectors, mini tub and fender bracing. The front bumper has been welded in place to improve stiffness as well. I have installed an alterkation front end. I have a 4 link street lynx from RMS that I have yet to install. Willwood 16" rotor 6 piston disc brakes on front with 14" rotor 4 piston disc brakes in back. Hydro boost power steering.
I am not going to do a hemi. I know gasps all around, but I have always liked wedges. I have a 72 or 73 block but got it magna fluxed and it wont hold for what I want to do. Horsepower goal 1000 to 1200. I want to be able to street drive or go to the track (drag and auto)
Therefore I have recently purchases an aluminum wedge world block. Jim LaRoy will be building the engine for me. Basically I have told him to go nuts. I plan on using pump gas, so 9-1 compression will be the range. B1 aluminum heads. Will need to be built like a brick sh*t house. Early numbers on the engine will determine turbo size. There is always a debate about smaller quicker spooling verse larger more boost. I am looking for more a good power band then one specific size. I am considering having the turbos stick part way out of the hood if need be.
EFI, I am leaning towards holley dominator system but have heard good things about bigstuff 3. Bigstuff web site has limited information in it though so hard to nail them down. With this much hp I am not sure if I will need to run 8 or 16 injectors. Part of the problem with B1 heads is there is only one intake manifold, so I will have to install bungs or go with a custom sheet metal intake. EFI will need to be able to control boost as I would like to be able to run about 7 to 14.
Engine space management will be a key factor. I can cheat and run a log manifold, but this will be a case of last resort. Basically I have to wait until I get the engine so I know what I am dealing with. I have been researching the idea of relocating the radiator to the trunk. Yes I know this is crazy but I have seen it done in several rice rocket applications. I would have to plumb vents behind the 1/4 windows or have even considered making a scoop off the roof as seen in a lot of the rally cars. This would save a lot of room for intercoolers ect.
Plan is to go to a crank trigger or distributor less ignition system. Oil system will probably be a dry sump with a reservoir. Once again all to get things out of the way.
Transmission is going to be an issue goal is to go with a paddle shift type system, 5 or 6 speed. Building the strength into the transmission will be the limiting factor.
Awaiting engine numbers until I decide on a final rear end combo
Wheels and tires. Thinking 19" on the front and 20" on the rear. At the very least I will need 18" on the front due to the huge brakes. I believe I am limited to a 12.5" width tire in the back with the Street Lynx set up. I have not chosen a specific brand wheel yet. Goal is light weight and strong, (duh). Most likely Nitto tires.

The car has no wiring harness so I will be putting in an aftermarket set up, battery will be relocated to the trunk.
Racing seats with 5 point harness.

So that's the basic plan. Right now I have decided that I need the engine so I can work on plumbing issues. The drive train will follow and from that I can get the final dimensions on the wheels regarding backspacing and all that jazz. Once I have everything installed and mocked up then I will sheet metal the interior. One day hopefully in the next decade off to paint.
Thanks for the interest. I will be starting a build thread when I get some of the basic pieces in order

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Wow that was a really long post. Sorry
Found this build. I have not gone through it all yet but interesting
http://www.theturboforums.com/threads/322032-70-Challenger-572-c-i-106mm-turbo?
I considered E85 for the cooling properties but where I live I can't get it on a regular basis
 

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I have seen a couple rear mounted txt projects. Have a hard time believing that you can over come the turbo lag and keep boost as the pipe go up and back the length of the car. Good example of a log type manifold though. Thanks for the link
 
wow that was exactly what I was thinking of especially with the turbos sitting out of the hood. great find. would love to see the plumbing under the hood
THANKS

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looks like he probably reversed the manifold and ran in the intake from back to front through the firewall

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http://www.txhouseofhotrods.com/roadkill/
for sale didn't list price

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Found this build as well, not completed but is a BB with hydro boost
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,73346.150.html
 
Hmm, haven't seen anyone around here like that. Maybe Sac?


we do have a guy on her with a 451ci IIRC he lives here in Calif.,
NorCal Delta area IIRC & it's a single turbo

Damn I can't remember his screen name off hand...

I have had a few Blown combos & a couple of turbo combos on
diesels tow rigs mostly & even domestic & foreign POS car's years ago

nothing like forced induction, boost, blown, turbo or in a bottle even

https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1hEQbGRJ_Q
 
I am in the early stages of a build and will be doing a twin turbo wedge. looking for some help planning and would love to see what is out there.

Here are a couple pics of a twin turbo / cross ram set up I saw at Mopars in the Park in Minnesota. Don't know the particulars but it was neat and drew a lot of attention. 100_6941.jpg100_6942.jpg100_6943.jpg
 
That's wild & using a {Cross-ram} long-ram/sonoramic-commando intake too
 
Here are a couple pics of a twin turbo / cross ram set up I saw at Mopars in the Park in Minnesota. Don't know the particulars but it was neat and drew a lot of attention.

That is a sweet ride. Did you ever hear how many cubes it was? He made lots of laps with it during the show, didn't sound overly crazy, but I'm sure it makes plenty of power.
You must have taken those pictures early? I got some Saturday afternoon and had to wait in line. LOL
 
That is a sweet ride. Did you ever hear how many cubes it was? He made lots of laps with it during the show, didn't sound overly crazy, but I'm sure it makes plenty of power.
You must have taken those pictures early? I got some Saturday afternoon and had to wait in line. LOL


I took the pictures on Sunday morning before it got too busy. I didn't talk to the guy but I saw him drive it around on Saturday. Sounded healthy and seemed to start and run nice. Like you said, not overly crazy. I don't know anything about the engine or what it makes for power.
 
wow that was exactly what I was thinking of especially with the turbos sitting out of the hood. great find. would love to see the plumbing under the hood
THANKS

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looks like he probably reversed the manifold and ran in the intake from back to front through the firewall

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http://www.txhouseofhotrods.com/roadkill/
for sale didn't list price

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Found this build as well, not completed but is a BB with hydro boost
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,73346.150.html



I hear ya on the turbos sticking out of the hood I think it's a cool look. When the time comes to move forward with my procharger setup if everything doesn't fit under I'm thinking I just may have a hole for the carb hat to poke out.
 
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