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So, the Patriots Really Are a Bunch of Lying, Cheating, Sumbags

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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart

Pretty amazing story from ESPN, and one that most of have known for some time. And still there are Patriots fans who insist their team and coach got the toughest penalties in league history from one mistake of taping one game. :)

There is one element of the Kraft/Goodell alliance that was overlooked though. During the 2007 season when New England went 18-1, they played a game against the Baltimore Ravens late in the season. During the pre-game, the announcers were saying how Goodell was Kraft's guest at the game because they had just announced some new joint Patriots/NFL entertainment venue in Boston, and they showed shots of Kraft and Goodell sitting next to one another in the owner's box. The announcers also mentioned how important this undefeated season was for the NFL as it meant they could up ad buy costs for Patriots games because ratings were now so high for them.

So the Ravens are winning the game right up until the final play, a long pass to Randy Moss in the end zone that is ruled a touchdown. The Ravens challenge the call and for good reason: on the replay you can see Moss with his hand stretched out, the nose of the ball touching his hand, but lots of green between his hand and the rest of the ball as he goes out of bounds. There was no way Moss had control of that ball as he went out of bounds.

The ref goes under the hood, then comes out but doesn't go back on the field. Instead he walks over to a table with a telephone on it and calls someone. I'd never seen a ref make a phone call after a play review before that, and have never seen one do it since, but this time the ref did. He was on the phone for a minute or so, then hung up, returned to the field, and said the call on the field was confirmed: touchdown, Patriots win.

Now who did the ref call and why? We know Goodell was in the building, and I think those field phones only call other numbers in the stadium. My guess is the ref called the owner's box and talked to Goodell or someone in management and said "hey, this is not a touchdown, and if I make that call the Patriots lose. What do you want me to do?" And worse, the ref knew to do this, which means someone told him if the game comes down to a close call, make sure that call is for the Patriots.
 
LOL
I'm a Pat's fan!

Been one since early 60s!

We are gonna WHOOP YOUR STEELERS BUTTs TONIGHT Big Bru!

Bru's quote: " My guess is the ref called the owner's box and talked to Goodell or someone in management and said "hey, this is not a touchdown, and if I make that call the Patriots lose. What do you want me to do?" And worse, the ref knew to do this, which means someone told him if the game comes down to a close call, make sure that call is for the Patriots. "

I'd say that's Paranoia
 
Get the apple pie defrosted....you're gonna need your comfort food tonight, brown dog lover.
 
....and go the 49ers!!!

Might see the Hayne Plane take off :)
 
The yucks won a Superbowl, miracles can happen.

Not for the brown dog lover though, those terrible towels will come in handy to wipe up the tears :)
 
I've been a Pats fan since the 60's. Still am and always will be. The Patriots have not done anything that all of the other NFL Teams do to win. They have been caught and paid the price for them. The Patriots were never despised so much when they were not winning. Now that they are a winning team, the Patriot haters emerge. WAH WAH WAH. Enough already. Richard, I'll be watching OUR team tonight, as you will be, GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
LOL
I'm a Pat's fan!

Been one since early 60s!

We are gonna WHOOP YOUR STEELERS BUTTs TONIGHT Big Bru!

Bru's quote: " My guess is the ref called the owner's box and talked to Goodell or someone in management and said "hey, this is not a touchdown, and if I make that call the Patriots lose. What do you want me to do?" And worse, the ref knew to do this, which means someone told him if the game comes down to a close call, make sure that call is for the Patriots. "

I'd say that's Paranoia

You ever seen a ref make a phone call before announcing a decision on a replay besides that one time? Ever? No, you haven't, and why is that?

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I've been a Pats fan since the 60's. Still am and always will be. The Patriots have not done anything that all of the other NFL Teams do to win. They have been caught and paid the price for them. The Patriots were never despised so much when they were not winning. Now that they are a winning team, the Patriot haters emerge. WAH WAH WAH. Enough already. Richard, I'll be watching OUR team tonight, as you will be, GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!

You might want to try reading the ESPN article. What they were doing was not what every other team was doing.
 
Yup Bru!
Never seen that before
Got to admit it Big Guy!

My only point to De-Flate-Gate is as the judge stated:

"First half of the game with de-flated balls Brady palyed terrible
Second half of the game with the balls re-inflated...Brady played great"
 
From what I understand of the ESPN Story is that it is a bunch of crap.
 
Wow cares about either team actually...LOL

BUT;
Cheaters will be cheaters,
there's an established pattern of such things in New England/Boston area...

At-least the Raiders admit it, not try to hide from it...

On the wall of the locker room back in the glory days
Rule #1 Cheating is encourage
Rule #2 Refer back to rule #1 if in doubt...

Sad the NFL has become so damn weak,
that the commissioner an officer for the owners of the league,
can't even hand out a penalty, it means nothing anymore,
especially without The Patriots/Billacheat & Tom Brady whining about his/their lying
& destruction of evidence, or not cooperating with the investigations,
then taking them to court now...

Have I ever sad how much I dislike the Patriots ?
especially the Head Cheater & the rest of the Cheating Coaching staff &
even more so whiny Tom Brady...

Go Raiders
 
Wow cares about either team actually...LOL

BUT;
Cheaters will be cheaters,
there's an established pattern of such things in New England/Boston area...

At-least the Raiders admit it, not try to hide from it...

On the wall of the locker room back in the glory days
Rule #1 Cheating is encourage
Rule #2 Refer back to rule #1 if in doubt...

Sad the NFL has become so damn weak,
that the commissioner an officer for the owners of the league,
can't even hand out a penalty, it means nothing anymore,
especially without The Patriots/Billacheat & Tom Brady whining about his/their lying
& destruction of evidence, or not cooperating with the investigations,
then taking them to court now...

Have I ever sad how much I dislike the Patriots ?
especially the Head Cheater & the rest of the Cheating Coaching staff &
even more so whiny Tom Brady...

Go Raiders


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjkNNDuAb9A


:toothy4::toothy4::toothy4:
 
Let the Game begin...
Who cares right?
All teams WIN and LOSE
NFL has started AND Roger Goodell Sucks...PERIOD!
 
The Patriots are responsible for providing the most enjoyable game ever watched by Giants, Jets, and Dolphin fans at the same time.
 
What's the saying in NASCAR ? Anyways , both teams play with the same number of players , on the same field , with the same officials AND WITH THE SAME BALL...so please STFU ! The people that whine and bitch and moan the most are the same limpdicks that think everybody gets a trophy because there are no losers , no second , third or fourth place finishers...take your binkies and pacifiers and go home while I go watch me some Patriots football...:icon_fU:
 
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