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Race-Gas Additive

Would you use the additives with 87 or 91 octane - which are basically the 2 choices we have CA. If they work better with lower octane is using 87 okay?
the additive "might" give you a point or two on the 87, probably won't do anything on 91-93. 10.5:1 probably needs 97. no way to get that without mixing/blending fuels. there isn't a substitute for tetraethyl lead, never been invented. this is why i use the kb184's with open chamber iron heads for pump gas, and it ain't the most pump gas friendly. i have icon 836's with edelbrock 82cc alum heads, good quench-some camshaft, and it seems to be pump gas friendly at 9.75:1 compression in another engine. people always leave out carbon build up from the compression ratio equation. just .010" of carbon build up on the piston and chambers will raise the compression ratio in a 440 1/2 a point. your 10.5:1 may be more than 11:1.
 
Thanks a lot guys! I think because of you all I've found sources close enough to me to provide for my GTX thirst habit. I also gained some knowledge on
What and why. I appreciate all the info and the advice.

The GTX isn't out here yet but it will be in a couple of months. I'm like an expectant parent trying to get everything lined up for when the baby arrives!
 
I can realte to the 91 oct. crap we have in Calif. too
I tried the Race Gas additive
IMO it worked great,
it doesn't eat fuel system parts either, like E-85 or ethanol
it doesn't hurt catylitic converters "allegedly IIRC either
more than meets the eye, if you need it...

my current combo doesn't need it, but
IF or when I finally take it to the track, I'll boost the fuel a little too
pretty good deal, for what it is & I don't have to have a big drum of racing fuel,
kept around in a little garage either...

http://www.race-gas.com/#pricing

lots of testimonials on that site, completely explains the additive too
 

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I have used the following with pretty good results. The one with the lead cannot be used if you have an 02 sensor and a catalytic converter. The stuff they sell in the auto parts stores are junk. If you read close it will tell you that it raises octane usually 3 points. So if you put this stuff in 91 octane you will then have 91.3 octane. To raise it from 91 to 92 you need 10 points or 1" number" I have a 440 engine with 10 to 1 compression. I run 92 non ethanol. With my timing around 35-36 I will get a little ping. When I add this stuff I can put the timing to 39 and no ping and it run like hell. http://www.wildbillscorvette.com/octanesupreme01.htm The "Aces" is what I am trying right now. It seems like it works also. I bought a quart to see how it works. http://bndautomotive.com/aces-formulas/aces-iv-gasoline-formula/
 
what compression ? 10 to 1 "should run fine on 91-93 with the timing set properly. My 472 hemi runs great on 93 with no additives...11-1 and higher will need more but I don't support high compression for a "driver"

The HEMI is more tolerant of high compression due to the more efficient chamber. A poorly tuned 8.2 to 1 440 will knock on 91 if the conditions are right.

There are no over the counter additives that will raise the octane effectively. Forget the claims printed on the can or bottle, they do not work. You can get Sunoco 104 and 110 race gas in 5 gallon pails from a NAPA parts store. I am no chemist, but my basic bonehead math tells me that mixing equal parts of 110 with 91 could average out to 100.5 octane.
In 2013, I started trying to find ways to stop the detonation in my 10.9 to 1 440/493. I tried all sorts of things including spark timing curve modifications, carburetor adjustments, different camshafts and the high octane gas. The 110 octane Sunoco gas has lead in it. MAN that stuff smells fantastic through the mufflers! The 104 octane eliminated most of the knocking but the 110 got rid of it entirely. I ended up putting in thicker head gaskets, dropping the ratio to 10.07 to 1. I can run great on 91 now.
 
California Pump Gas Suck's Thats why I've been contemplating switching to E85 octane is 112 at the pump and less than $3 per gallon, problem here in California is locating stations that Carry it, in the desert there's none, but if you Google E85 Gas-stations in Los Angeles there plentiful !!

This one confuses me. I have 2 stations selling E85 near me. I thought the E85 gas was bad for our cars. Too much ethanol. Can anyone help with this one?
 
Toluene is what I'm told is best.!!
It is a solvent not a fuel so it isn't taxed here,like fuel.
It can be used to increase fuel octane dramatically.
 
In order to run E85 you need to make sure all your rubber lines and fuel components are alcohol compatible. Also the carb needs to be jetted up(bigger jets)and the rubber parts have to be able to withstand the harsh effects of alcohol. Good luck.
This one confuses me. I have 2 stations selling E85 near me. I thought the E85 gas was bad for our cars. Too much ethanol. Can anyone help with this one?
 
10 gal 93 octane.....+4 gal 112 octane, lead, nothing else in the 4 gal race gas....mix it all together ....
Results,
WOW!!:steering: the 'ol 413 screams!....4 gal?$$$$....-=$25.00......6.25 per gal....
 
What times are people running vs costs...My friends car runs 9.80's on pump gas with 10.5-1 pistons. Unless a professional and or rich...how fast do you want to go on a budget
 
What times are people running vs costs...My friends car runs 9.80's on pump gas with 10.5-1 pistons. Unless a professional and or rich...how fast do you want to go on a budget

Good question!....if you are on a tight budget....well,

it might be tough to go fast & in style.
 
In order to run E85 you need to make sure all your rubber lines and fuel components are alcohol compatible. Also the carb needs to be jetted up(bigger jets)and the rubber parts have to be able to withstand the harsh effects of alcohol. Good luck.
E, don't they run hotter with the higher alcohol?
 
Has anyone used Race-Gas additive to increase the octane of the normal pump gas we get. In CA I only see 91 octane and my car is thirsty for more.

i know there are other additives out there and I'd like to hear about those as well - but I specifically would like to know about Race-Gas users. Good, bad, or indifferent.

Shipping the GTX to CA in a couple of months and want to know how to fuel it.
Thx!
I have used it on a pinging 360 Magnum. Didn't help much or enough. Left my spark plugs coated with a thick rust like substance. I'm sure the chambers and piston tops are the same. I am done with the octane boosting additives. Cam swap and lots of tuning I think I have it under control.
 
The HEMI is more tolerant of high
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ compression due to the more efficient chamber. A poorly tuned 8.2 to 1 440 will knock on 91 if the conditions are right.

There are no over the counter additives that will raise the octane effectively. Forget the claims printed on the can or bottle, they do not work. You can get Sunoco 104 and 110 race gas in 5 gallon pails from a NAPA parts store. I am no chemist, but my basic bonehead math tells me that mixing equal parts of 110 with 91 could average out to 100.5 octane.
In 2013, I started trying to find ways to stop the detonation in my 10.9 to 1 440/493. I tried all sorts of things including spark timing curve modifications, carburetor adjustments, different camshafts and the high octane gas. The 110 octane Sunoco gas has lead in it. MAN that stuff smells fantastic through the mufflers! The 104 octane eliminated most of the knocking but the 110 got rid of it entirely. I ended up putting in thicker head gaskets, dropping the ratio to 10.07 to 1. I can run great on 91 now.
In have to say (as u would say) b.s. on the hemi being more tolerant! I raced one for 14 yrs., and drove the other on the street. It would ping like hell w/ average gas in it, Hadto use av gas full strength in the street car. Ws stock 426. Always used Sunoco race gas in the race car.
 
I have used the race gas additive and I was pleased with the results. Ran it in my AAR which had a slight hesitation and ping under hard acceleration. Cleared it up and ran much more responsive, probably one of the best boosters available on the market. Ran 93 from pump and one 32oz can in about 16 Gallons of fuel total for about 97 octane. Downside is its pricey but I live close enough to the summit main store to save on shipping. Also I could adjust the timing to eliminate, but will lose in other areas of performance. It is still cheaper than buying and mixing race fuel and easier, but at the end of the day it depends on what you are willing to spend.
 
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