This took the wind out of my sales today

Canyon707 · Mar 27, 2017

Lately been pretty happy with my new 511 in my Roadrunner. Pretty much all buttoned up. Today with the rain behind us for the foreseeable future I was going to take my car out of the garage. Clean my garage and the car. Fired it up and NO gears. I thought that as odd and as I continued to investigate, everything was hooked up correctly. Man I was ready but, not for this. Long story short, after my engine failure last year I had never driven it so who would know?? It wasn't going anywhere. So I ended up with the ugly job of pulling the trans after looking in the pan. I didn't see parts but, my magnet held finer metal partials so fine you couldn't really feel them but, I'm certain it wasn't right. So out it comes and inspection to see if there is some failure. I will know more soon.

mmissile · Mar 27, 2017

Bummer. I hope it's not serious.

rumblefish360 · Mar 27, 2017

Wow! WTH?!?!

Crossing the fingers for ya!

Daves69 · Mar 27, 2017

Sure the TC didn't come out of the pump during re-assemble and trash the lugs on the startup?

1967coronet440 · Mar 27, 2017

Fingers crossed for you

luvthyapril · Mar 27, 2017

Sometimes it's the simplest things that we have missed I know from experience good luck

Canyon707 · Mar 27, 2017

Daves69 said:
Sure the TC didn't come out of the pump during re-assemble and trash the lugs on the startup?

I am not sure about that. Trans to torque converter to flex. plate bell housing to block?

GetX'd · Mar 27, 2017

Bummer - fingers crossed it's a simple fix. With these cars,it's always something....

Daves69 · Mar 27, 2017

Canyon707 said:
I am not sure about that..............

One of my first young and dumb experiences helping a friend we trashed the pump lugs on his trans. You don't know it till you start it up, put it in gear, and find you have no F or R but you don't know why as the trans was fine behind the engine you just replaced. Evidently the TC notches weren't aligned or engaged in the lugs. Probably was just sitting on top of the lugs. At start up the notches sheared both lugs completely off the gerotor. Back then some parts stores had these on the shelf.

Canyon707 · Mar 27, 2017

I am a bit confused the torque converter slides on the trans shaft and seems to lock in is there something else?

aldal · Mar 27, 2017

Canyon707 said:
Lately been pretty happy with my new 511 in my Roadrunner. Pretty much all buttoned up. Today with the rain behind us for the foreseeable future I was going to take my car out of the garage. Clean my garage and the car. Fired it up and NO gears. I thought that as odd and as I continued to investigate, everything was hooked up correctly. Man I was ready but, not for this. Long story short, after my engine failure last year I had never driven it so who would know?? It wasn't going anywhere. So I ended up with the ugly job of pulling the trans after looking in the pan. I didn't see parts but, my magnet held finer metal partials so fine you couldn't really feel them but, I'm certain it wasn't right. So out it comes and inspection to see if there is some failure. I will know more soon.

Sorry for your trouble but just think how boring it would be without all these little setbacks - less expensive but boring. Good luck, :thumbsup:

Daves69 · Mar 27, 2017

I'm operating off memory here as I haven't been fooling with autos for a long while. I'm thinking the splines go in first and it sort of clicks when the TC contacts the pump lug top. Then you need to find the lug line up and it will click again when it's all the way in. If I recall the TC will sit back like an inch and a half or so when engaged. I'm sure others here have the technique down and will chime in.

Canyon707 · Mar 27, 2017

aldal said:
Sorry for your trouble but just think how boring it would be without all these little setbacks - less expensive but boring. Good luck,

I do get that part. There have been many trying days and more money

HEMI-ITIS · Mar 27, 2017

When you pulled the motor,the trans stayed in the car right? If you pushed the vert into the trans when removed the engine,,,,,the lug shearing theory does not apply.

Mike Gaines · Mar 27, 2017

Good Luck my friend.

Canyon707 · Mar 27, 2017

Daves69 said:
I'm operating off memory here as I haven't been fooling with autos for a long while. I'm thinking the splines go in first and it sort of clicks when the TC contacts the pump lug top. Then you need to find the lug line up and it will click again when it's all the way in. If I recall the TC will sit back like an inch and a half or so when engaged. I'm sure others here have the technique down and will chime in.

Well it's apart so as I pull it out I will have a look. Thanks

HEMI-ITIS said:
When you pulled the motor,the trans stayed in the car right? If you pushed the vert into the trans when removed the engine,,,,,the lug shearing theory does not apply.

Canyon707 · Mar 27, 2017

Yes the trans stayed in. I do remember when installing the engine lining it up a real pain alone the converter came off or forward and I had to push it back on the shaft which I did ang finally got it together . Now I am wondering if I got it right.

HEMI-ITIS · Mar 27, 2017

If the vert comes foward,you hafta spin it till it drops all the way in.If it came out a bit,I would pull it off and reinstall spinning and pushing,seems like 3 steps before it's in all the way.

MOPOWER871 · Mar 28, 2017

HEMI-ITIS said:
If the vert comes foward,you hafta spin it till it drops all the way in.If it came out a bit,I would pull it off and reinstall spinning and pushing,seems like 3 steps before it's in all the way.

Al's correct, after you get the converter to drop in (push on to input shaft, stop, spin to the right, should drop in, stop, spin to the right, drop in, spin the converter, pull converter forward a pinch) Rock the converter back and forth(rotate), you should be able to hear the pump lugs clicking meaning there aligned and engaged.I always repeat this process once or twice just to double check myself since its not everyday I put a converter in. good luck.

66Satellite47 · Mar 28, 2017

Sounds like the converter wasn't properly engaged like others have said. The small amount of metal "dust" on the magnet is pretty normal. Lots of times getting the converter slid all the way back & engaged is a pain. You need to feel the "thump" as it goes the last bit in to slide over the pump lugs. When bolting the trans to the block, be sure you check to see the converter spins freely as SLOWLY snugging up a few of the trans mounting bolts. Once the trans & motor are bolted together, be sure the converter spins freely & not bound up on the flex plate. At this point you need to pull the front pump & check the pump gears & look for any other damage. Good luck.

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