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new paint problem, what do you think?

Any good painter worth their weight in salt knows that bleeding can happen from Bondo, old lacquer paint and even poor prep work. I would not accept any bleed thru. Your going to have to strip the entire hood now.
 
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Give him some free advertising. Place a (removable) label on each side of the hood scoop that says...Hood painted by (his company name).

Ha! I like it!
 
Dude is a hack.........if your painting someone's hood (or whatever), it has to look right......period

part of the job is knowing how to attack it. and if you attack it wrong, you go to plan B........ it's not that difficult

sometimes you have to strip what is there, sometimes you use it as a nice solid base...... sometimes you paint it twice....... BFD

epoxy primer/sealer should be used on nearly every job, with few exceptions; and when used properly makes it easier, faster, and nicer

all of this needs to be priced in, and 600 ain't gonna cut it in most cases...... working cheap will bite ya in the ***
 
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Agree with all the others. I would post everywhere I could, make you a car show type sign and have his name on it at the local car show. Take a pic and send it to him...the only way you can get to crooks ,shysters, cons is by hitting them where it counts, in the wallet!
Hell I would go to some of the Harley dealerships and browse around and strike up some general conversation.... You can cost him a lot more than $600!!! You can't buy good publicity, but bad publicity isn't affordable...
if he is truly a professional he should have known what it took to prevent that from happening.and would do anything to correct it
I agree with these guys, tell him what you are going to do as far as the "credits" sign, right beside his screw up. You can have a stick-on vinyl label made up -low cost at a sign shop. I small claimed a body-paint guy for "poor workmanship" and was awarded the max--$5000.................................MO
 
Wow! The villagers are out with their torches... No one has seen the job in question, or knows what the true, chemical condition of the 25 year old paint was,or what the agreement was. In all my years of painting I've seen some pretty crazy things, like cheap shops not adding hardener to enamels & throwing it in a bake booth, etc. etc. There are a lot of unknowns in refinishing previous jobs. If I bid that job, I would give him one price to refinish with no guarantee & another price to strip, address any issues, prime & paint with a guarantee and let him make the decision. Sealers are only an insurance policy, not a cure all. As a side note, I always feel better about stripping off old finish, because I only like to do it once and there are No unknowns. Communication is really important. People can be reluctant to tell the painter what their expectations are for fear of high prices. I'm probably not making any friends, but it seems to be the biggest problem with "Evil Painters" and car enthusiasts.
 
If I bid that job, I would give him one price to refinish with no guarantee & another price to strip, address any issues, prime & paint with a guarantee and let him make the decision.

Wow !! I'm not a painter but I own 3 small business and I'll tell you, I have ONE level of quality only - my absolute best. If you don't like my price, want to do part of the job yourself or whatever ... hit the road! I will not have an inferior product out there for people to see. People don't look at something and ask if you paid for a low end job, they just assume what they're looking at is the norm.
 
Wow !! I'm not a painter but I own 3 small business and I'll tell you, I have ONE level of quality only - my absolute best. If you don't like my price, want to do part of the job yourself or whatever ... hit the road! I will not have an inferior product out there for people to see. People don't look at something and ask if you paid for a low end job, they just assume what they're looking at is the norm.
I wouldn`t pay $600 for a hood only paint job to start with. You should take him to court, don`t get rid of the evidence! he should make it good one way or the other, you paid for a first class job !
 
Wow! The villagers are out with their torches... No one has seen the job in question, or knows what the true, chemical condition of the 25 year old paint was,or what the agreement was. In all my years of painting I've seen some pretty crazy things, like cheap shops not adding hardener to enamels & throwing it in a bake booth, etc. etc. There are a lot of unknowns in refinishing previous jobs. If I bid that job, I would give him one price to refinish with no guarantee & another price to strip, address any issues, prime & paint with a guarantee and let him make the decision. Sealers are only an insurance policy, not a cure all. As a side note, I always feel better about stripping off old finish, because I only like to do it once and there are No unknowns. Communication is really important. People can be reluctant to tell the painter what their expectations are for fear of high prices. I'm probably not making any friends, but it seems to be the biggest problem with "Evil Painters" and car enthusiasts.

I added this to my post........

all of this needs to be priced in, and 600 ain't gonna cut it in most cases...... working cheap will bite ya in the ***
 
I wouldn`t pay $600 for a hood only paint job to start with. You should take him to court, don`t get rid of the evidence! he should make it good one way or the other, you paid for a first class job !

600 rarely pays for a first class anything

flat black or satin is less work than gloss, but a I wouldn't strip/repaint on a hood for under a grand + materials
 
if he will not make it right get your money ,he knows better ,throw him in small claims court ,or
 
600 rarely pays for a first class anything

flat black or satin is less work than gloss, but a I wouldn't strip/repaint on a hood for under a grand + materials
you wouldn`t have much business around here! I`ve had trick paint jobs on entire cars done for not much more than that. u have to shop around. I`m talking about near showcar paint jobs too.
 
Well as some have stated, $600. is not a lot for a hood, even in satin black. Take materials out of that and consider a shop rate of $75 an hour.

That's the problem with quoting jobs, the "unexpected" can kill you.
 
600 rarely pays for a first class anything

flat black or satin is less work than gloss, but a I wouldn't strip/repaint on a hood for under a grand + materials
How much per hour do you charge? You didn't train and put in the education of a Dr. Are you just joking? How do you get customers----completely clue-less with pockets full of cash? .................MO
 
How much per hour do you charge? You didn't train and put in the education of a Dr. Are you just joking? How do you get customers----completely clue-less with pockets full of cash? .................MO


not nearly enough...... and I can't get out fast enough.....

as I said in another thread....... there is maaco at one end, and skilled craftsmanship at the other....... I suggest most people go to maaco

oh, and If I screw up the job, I eat it......

here's a few hoods....... most of them were junk, I earn every penny

amxhood.jpg
camarohood.jpeg
darthood.jpg
rrhood.jpg
250hood.jpg
 
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Nice work ElDubb!
I gotta agree, not much meat on the bone, if any, at $600......Considering a small project like a hood would run about 70% in material cost. Lol, crossin your fingers, looking at the left over HS clear from another job .......unless you're painting in your garage, it would be tough to make a living after you paid for your lights, booth filters, consumables and thinner disposal!
 
apparently this guy is the best in my city and has contract with harley and everything. i get the hood back and there is this blotchy spot about 1.5' x 1" . it feels smooth but doesnt look great. i took it back to the shop and he says the paint had a reaction with the previous paint on the hood and there was nothing he could do. if he sanded and repainted it may turn out the same way and he would charge me to do the job again ($600 btw!).

Apparently he's not the best in town otherwise you wouldn't be in the boat you are now in.
Is this the Ottawa in Canada, Il. or somewhere else?
Yeah, he's so full of it he makes the toilets jealous! Just another lazyass business man!
 
Nice work ElDubb!
I gotta agree, not much meat on the bone, if any, at $600......Considering a small project like a hood would run about 70% in material cost. Lol, crossin your fingers, looking at the left over HS clear from another job .......unless you're painting in your garage, it would be tough to make a living after you paid for your lights, booth filters, consumables and thinner disposal!


it ain't 1975, and you get what ya pay for........

but all I was saying is....... it's on the painter, and it's his fault for working cheap. he was either being lazy; or he is young and simply doesn't know any better...... or he's a drunk (different thread all together).

you think I never ate a job? ..... I could write a book
 
1975...I woulda been 7, but I was definitely around It! Lol
I was raised DuPont in the mid 80's. I ate a lot of BCC's in the late 80's early 90's. Cronar......
I'm with ya, that's that schoolin' you get! You learn from your mistakes...........good, fast and cheap.................unfortunately you can only pick ONE....... Good takes time and money. Fast..... Well, you know there's a compromise involved, usually gonna cost $$........ Cheap, I'm not going there....seems to be arbitrary depending on where you come from.
 
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