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440 in 65?

Al Zangenberg

Al Zangenberg

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moparsrul said:
1965 Plymouth Satellite Original big block 4 speed car. It has a little rust on the bottom rear of quarters and rear wheel lips, the rest of the car is solid, I comes with Legendary Upholstery headliner, carpet kit, seat covers and new buns they have been installed, and door panels, but missing one rear one. I'm sure Legendary would just sell one. car needs to be restored by is a solid start . The 4 speed is still in the car and I have a complete unmolested low mileage 65 440. Yes it is a 65 motor most say they didn't make one. The numbers don't lie. $7,000 I have several other 64 and 65 Dodge and Plymouths for sale and parts.

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The 440 first appeared in 1966. Chrysler marketed the 440 as the "TNT" in its Chrysler cars, the Super Commando in Plymouths and the Magnum in Dodge vehicles. The 440 remained the largest passenger car version of the big Chrysler V8's until production ended in 1978. No "B" body passenger vehicles, offered a 440, in 1965. Your engine, was for the 1966 model year...
Cheers!
 
moparsrul said:
This is a complete untouched low mileage motor the stamping on the tab is B440 and the side of the block is cast 7/2/65 so I guess it could be technically a 66? I believe b is 65 too?
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'65 engine stamp is an "A". I have two '65 Satellites and I purchased a '65 "A" 413 engine and transmission a couple years ago.
 
did the 426 street wedge and maxwedges and race hemi were offered up as option too went they ?
 
POMONAMISSEL said:
did the 426 street wedge and maxwedges and race hemi were offered up as option too went they ?
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The Street Wedge 426/365 were offered two years only. 1964, & 1965.
The last year for the 426 Max Wedge's, was 1964.
The 426 race Hemi debuted in 1964, eventually replacing the Max Wedge engines. The last 426 Max Wedge production ended, right about the last of March, 1964.
The 426 Race Hemi, was first offered in 1964, as the A-864 Drag Race Engine and in 1965 as the A-990 Drag Race Engine - in "B" Body Dodge & Plymouth 2-door sedans, for racing only, not street street use. The Belvedere II, & Dodge Coronet hardtop models, also were available, with the Race Hemi Engine, for Drag Racing, and NASCAR, but not for the street.
Cheers!
 
Have heard stories of guys that ordered 64 Max Wedges and ended up with a dual quad hemi!!
 
Al Zangenberg said:
The Street Wedge 426/365 were offered two years only. 1964, & 1965.
The last year for the 426 Max Wedge's, was 1964.
The 426 race Hemi debuted in 1964, eventually replacing the Max Wedge engines. The last 426 Max Wedge production ended, right about the last of March, 1964.
The 426 Race Hemi, was first offered in 1964, as the A-864 Drag Race Engine and in 1965 as the A-990 Drag Race Engine - in "B" Body Dodge & Plymouth 2-door sedans, for racing only, not street street use. The Belvedere II, & Dodge Coronet hardtop models, also were available, with the Race Hemi Engine, for Drag Racing, and NASCAR, but not for the street.
Cheers!
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FYI, 426H Wedge 10.3 CR was offered in '66 according to my Service Manual, but apparently only in the Sport Fury. My '66 Service Manual does not reference 440's for Plymouth models, but I know they became available for some '66 Dodge Chargers. Don't think 440's were readily available in '66 much less '65.
 
only came close to buying the 426 street wedge twice . still kicking myself for not . a 65 fury 1 ex cop car my buds dad that stilling in his driveway . ran great . stupid me . and a 64 fury or belv 2dr ht 426 4spd . that was a flood recovery car . but i did score a 64 426 block awhile back . and my max wedge parts will be a great topping for that lower end . also building a b max wedge , 470 with chapman mw alloys and mopars mw intake . all posted n flowed by dave story of ky . that motor is for my 63 sf gc car .
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Your correct 426 wedge did end up in a few 66 cars. I had a short block.
 
The Street Wedge (426/365), was available only in B-Body cars (Plymouth and Dodge) and light-duty Dodge D Series trucks. It was an increased-bore version of the standard New Yorker/Imperial 413 single 4-barrel engine. If your Service Manual shows a 426/365 Street wedge, ONLY in the "Sport Fury" - then it most assuredly is an exception. There is no advertising literature (that I'm aware of), showing a 426/365 available in 1966, for sale to the general public. Also, if it's true, my statement is correct; and that '66 Sport Fury you speak of is a "C"-Body car, that started production in 1965.
"Stretching" the topic (if I may), after NASCAR's Bill France Sr. outlawed the B-Body Dodge's, & Plymouth's w/the 426 Race Hemi for the 1965 season, the Dodge & Plymouth "C"-Body cars, competed with the 426/365 Street Wedge engines, and did fairly well, considering the C-Body cars weighed much more than the B-Body cars, and the S.W. 426, was a street engine. The 426 Hemis were allowed to return, to NASCAR, for the 1966 season, because Mopar offered them in de-tuned Street Hemi versions. IIRC, Mopar was only required to build 100 cars, to make them legal, for Super Stock Drag Racing, & NASCAR, for the 1964 Season, and IIRC, they built 101 examples... :drama::steering:Cheers for Mother Mopar! :thumbsup:
66Satellite47 said:
FYI, 426H Wedge 10.3 CR was offered in '66 according to my Service Manual, but apparently only in the Sport Fury. My '66 Service Manual does not reference 440's for Plymouth models, but I know they became available for some '66 Dodge Chargers. Don't think 440's were readily available in '66 much less '65.
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Sales brochure for the 1966 Plymouth Fury featuring the Sport Fury, Fury III, Fury II, and Fury I in 4-door sedan, 2-door sedan, convertible, and station wagon body styles. Engine options include a 145hp 225ci 6-cylinder, 230hp 318ci V8, 270hp 383ci 2-barrel Commando V8, 325hp 383ci 4-barrel Commando V8, and "365hp 440" 4-barrel Commando V8. "I duzn't cee no 426/365 Injun Opshun. Jus' sayin'... :thankyou:
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Al Zangenberg said:
Sales brochure for the 1966 Plymouth Fury featuring the Sport Fury, Fury III, Fury II, and Fury I in 4-door sedan, 2-door sedan, convertible, and station wagon body styles. Engine options include a 145hp 225ci 6-cylinder, 230hp 318ci V8, 270hp 383ci 2-barrel Commando V8, 325hp 383ci 4-barrel Commando V8, and "365hp 440" 4-barrel Commando V8. "I duzn't cee no 426/365 Injun Opshun. Jus' sayin'... :thankyou:
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FYI, 426H Wedge 10.3 CR was offered in '66 according to my Service Manual, but apparently only in the Sport Fury. My '66 Service Manual does not reference 440's for Plymouth models, but I know they became available for some '66 Dodge Chargers. Don't think 440's were readily available in '66 much less '65.
 
To clarify if needed, my 1966 Plymouth Factory Service Manual has the specs, maintenance procedures, etc for the 426H (high compression 10.3) wedge motor. The application is stated as optional for the Sport Fury. Sales literature is never complete in my observation. The FSM does NOT show a 426 OR 440 available for the B body cars. Again I am sure the 440 was available in some '66 Chargers, I've seen an example personally. I owned a "65 Coronet 426 365 HP 4 spd sedan car.
 
I am opening this thread to continue the discussion from this sale thread. Too much interesting discussion to delete because it's not allowed in sale threads. Thanks.
 
I owned a 65 Dodge Monaco with a 426 Wedge.. 100% original car.. stamped on the upper shelf as such.. silver Body, Black roof.. full console , wicker on backs of seats.. I wish I still had it..
 
Al Zangenberg said:
FYI, 426H Wedge 10.3 CR was offered in '66 according to my Service Manual, but apparently only in the Sport Fury. My '66 Service Manual does not reference 440's for Plymouth models, but I know they became available for some '66 Dodge Chargers. Don't think 440's were readily available in '66 much less '65.
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Plymouth DID have a 440 option, for 1966. Dodge Monaco car model, Chrysler, & Imperial too. NONE of these are B-Body cars...as most of us know. As stated in the brochure that I posted (and other places), it was a "440/365" horsepower rated engine, NOT a 426/365. Again, the Fury I, II, III, & Sport Fury "C"-Body, full frame, cars.
The 440 first appeared in 1966. Chrysler marketed the 440 as the "TNT" in its Chrysler cars, the Super Commando in Plymouths and the Magnum in Dodge vehicles. I've got Hurricane Irma to contend with, along with my house, pets, a '64 Sting Ray coupe, & two '65 Satellite B-Body cars to attend to. I have to protect those "Roaring '65s", from Roaring storm...Hopefully, my fellow Florida residents, and myself - will be OK...
 
Al Zangenberg said:
Plymouth DID have a 440 option, for 1966. Dodge Monaco car model, Chrysler, & Imperial too. NONE of these are B-Body cars...as most of us know. As stated in the brochure that I posted (and other places), it was a "440/365" horsepower rated engine, NOT a 426/365. Again, the Fury I, II, III, & Sport Fury "C"-Body, full frame, cars.
The 440 first appeared in 1966. Chrysler marketed the 440 as the "TNT" in its Chrysler cars, the Super Commando in Plymouths and the Magnum in Dodge vehicles. I've got Hurricane Irma to contend with, along with my house, pets, a '64 Sting Ray coupe, & two '65 Satellite B-Body cars to attend to. I have to protect those "Roaring '65s", from Roaring storm...Hopefully, my fellow Florida residents, and myself - will be OK...
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Stay safe Al and we'll see you after the storm. Wish I was closer to help.
 
Back to the original query, the guy with the '65 Satellite, and a 440 engine casting date in late 1965. This was destined for: 1966 C-Body cars. No "B-Body" cars, had a 440, in 1966. That started in 1967... Cheers...not Leers! :lol:
 
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Al Zangenberg said:
Back to the original query, the guy with the '65 Satellite, and a 440 engine casting date in late 1965. This was destined for: 1966 C-Body cars. No "B-Body" cars, had a 440, in 1966. That started in 1967... Cheers...not Leers! :lol:
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Al, I believe we have wandered around to agreement. Take care in this awful natural situation. STAY SAFE
 
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