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Identify this snubber

Bicylindrico

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I am still trying to figure out how to drop my rear suspension a couple of inches this winter. People on this site have learned me on Super Stock springs and I am thinking my car may have these and maybe they are what's keeping my rear end jacked up. I read a comment online stating that the spring kit came with it's own snubber so maybe someone here can confirm this is what I am working with?

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That looks "homemade" to me. I've got SS springs on mine & there was no "kit" available that I remember back in the 70's. You just got the springs; the extended frt.hangers were extra also. Hope this helps.
 
That looks "homemade" to me. I've got SS springs on mine & there was no "kit" available that I remember back in the 70's. You just got the springs; the extended frt.hangers were extra also. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the input. Man, this old car was done many moons ago and I can't seem to put together all the pieces. It honestly does not look like someone made it in their garage but maybe they just did a decent job.

I just hate to go back to stock rear springs with the benefit the heavier springs can provide for the rear axle. I am just trying to figure out what exactly I have and go from there. It appears I have more leafs then a stock 65 Satellite?

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Looking at the wall in the background this was most likely the drivers side
 
Maybe you have a set of HD springs? SS are 22" from centerbolt to frt spring eye, I think. I don't remember SS having that many leaves.The pic is rear half of mine, please don't ask me to go way under,lol.

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And I see that we both have cobwebs hanging around.And mine is driver's side rear.
 
Yeah, looks like you have a total of 6 leafs to my 7. Happen to know what the difference is other than the extra leaf? Why on Earth did they sell HD springs for this car to begin with? Campers? Seemed to be the big thing back in the 60's.

Maybe I can remove a couple leafs(leaves?) and see if that makes a worthy difference since it costs me nothing. Did all these cars come with the scubber and does everyone run them? 4 speed car here.
 
I thought by the title of this thread it would be one of the many, many women who've snubbed me.
 
Super Sport is Chebby crap....you mean Super Stock.
 
Someone could've added a leaf to yours or u could have 2 extra half leafs on rt. side for HD. Yes mine are super stocks.
 
Hey Dean, I had to try and remember what you were working on.
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When you took that home made snubber out did it drop down any? It looks long enough to have been holding up the car.

Is there coil springs on the shocks? Multiple hole shackles on the rear of the springs?
 
The pinion snubber is homemade, way taller than anything I used. Old Bee, you are mistaken SS springs are 20" front half. Stock are 22". XHD stock springs had 6 leaves +1 half leave front right side, 5 leaves + 1 half to the rear on left side My memory may be flawed.
 
The pinion snubber is homemade, way taller than anything I used.
Yeah, no kidding! Must have taken a heck of a shoehorn, to get it in place. Hmmm, maybe there's no floorpan!

One thing you might look at, are the spring hangers (shackles), both front, and rear. I mounted a set of SS springs on my 64, on a 8 3/4" axle, using the stock front hangers.
And, had to buy some stock rear shackles, to make it right. (And tossed the 10" long ones, someone had on it!)

The pinion snubber, if stock, figure just the mounting plate you have, without the 'tower', the rubber bolting directly to the plate. But, that's using stock springs, too.
Many times, using SS springs, that raise the rear of the car a few inches, an adjustable pinion snubber is used...that's only 4" to 6" taller. End result is, the snubber end sits an inch, or two, from the floorpan plate, above the snubber.
 
The rear shocks were 'coil-overs' and I removed them altogether to get the rear ride height sorted out. They only dropped the car an inch or so when removed.

There are 7 leaves on each side. I will take some pics of the mounts and post in a bit. I believe there are just one hole on the rear shackles.
 
There are 7 leaves on each side.
Those 'might' be HD springs. Not sure, since I've only heard of them. But, there's also a handful of hangers, front and rear, that can be had, to change things around.
Yeah, pics will help.
 
Damn...no answers?

Pic 1...stock front hanger...good.
Pic 2...need to go. Put 'normal' shocks on.
Pic 3...stock rear shackles...but...

Problem I see is, wrong springs. Probably too short. Understand you've got it in the air, rear axle hanging. With the car on the ground, what 'angle' are the shackles?
On the ground, those shackles should be, at the very least, 90* with the springs. In other words, the attach point on the springs, should be behind the upper attach point. Usually more than 90* (minimum), angled to the back of the car.
Don't know what else you have, but Mopar springs create 'spring wrap', when it's hit hard, springs wrap, same as tighten, pulling the rear of the springs forward. Same time, the nose of the rear gear box moves up. That's the whole reason for the snubber, to make a stopping point, when the rear axle twists upward. (Also when it 'hooks-up'.

I can tell which way it's going, by the bumper bracket.
 
Damn...no answers?

Pic 1...stock front hanger...good.
Pic 2...need to go. Put 'normal' shocks on.
Pic 3...stock rear shackles...but...

Problem I see is, wrong springs. Probably too short. Understand you've got it in the air, rear axle hanging. With the car on the ground, what 'angle' are the shackles?
On the ground, those shackles should be, at the very least, 90* with the springs. In other words, the attach point on the springs, should be behind the upper attach point. Usually more than 90* (minimum), angled to the back of the car.
Don't know what else you have, but Mopar springs create 'spring wrap', when it's hit hard, springs wrap, same as tighten, pulling the rear of the springs forward. Same time, the nose of the rear gear box moves up. That's the whole reason for the snubber, to make a stopping point, when the rear axle twists upward. (Also when it 'hooks-up'.

I can tell which way it's going, by the bumper bracket.
Thanks!! and I understand the whole spring wrap thing. That's why I prefer to have a stronger spring on this car instead of going back to stock springs. These pictures are actually with the car on the ground so that is how the rear shackle looks under load. The angle you see in the pics are in the laden position so yes with this setup the springs appear too short. I guess they would appear that way if they are way too stiff as there is almost no deflection with the weight of the vehicle. Also, I do not have the rear shocks on the car so I am not sure what you are seeing. I did purchase a set of KYB rear shocks that are supposed to be specific for this car but have not yet installed until I get my ride height corrected.

I just don't know if I should try to remove some leaves or throw in a 'know it works' set. I was curious if any of the known good spring setups have the second leaf pretty much stacked right on the primary leaf and being the same length. Seems overkill as these cars don't appear to have much weight in the rear.

Thanks Miller for taking to time to look at my continuing debacle!
 
Shouldn't those shackles lean to the rear?
I thought MP SS springs have a shorter front segment than the stocks. And longer front spring hangers are used I believe.
 
Shouldn't those shackles lean to the rear?
I thought MP SS springs have a shorter front segment than the stocks. And longer front spring hangers are used I believe.
Yes, I believe that was what Miller was saying. I personally have never had experience with leaf springs so I am learning. They really do not flex much with the weight on them and retain their arch. I think they would stretch out some with significantly more weight. I would like to see this car at least 2 inches lower in the rear.
 
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