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New flooring gone bad!!!

747mopar

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To give a little hindsight my wife and I built our home and wouldn't you know it I got laid off during the construction leading us to save where we could.... the floor. We had some Red Oak laying around and had it milled into a hardwood floor and I've hated it every since! When the wife pitched the idea of replacing it I was all for it except ripping up the tile too, we compromised on a floor I really liked with the agreement that the tile would go.... Bad idea!!!!!

So where it went wrong... I didn't like the fresh air return so I decided to rework it... Took the huge rectangular grate and cut a circular pattern out of it and whipped up an Oak trim ring.

Next problem was the transition (stairs) from the kitchen to the living room. Since the living room was added after the kitchen the stairs were built to mate to the old floor.... Had to be gutted and reworked.
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Then as I'm pulling up the old floor I find the dreaded termite damage!!! Fortunately it's very localized, there's a inaccessible crawl space that has a cold joint in the concrete allowing them to get threw. As it turns out they focused on a piece of dead flooring (dead prior to being sawed) and a joist in the crawl space and nothing else.. That I can find.

The killer was ripping out the tile that I initially refused too do, what a PITA!! Whoever says thinset mortar doesn't stick to wood is full of chit. 2days renting tools to find out that a chisel on our Bosch Hammer drill was the ticked and that's just to get the mortar up after the tile and backer board was already gone!

And then the money...
Our dishwasher recently started leaking... New dishwasher.
In order to remove the huge island I had to bust up the tile countertop... New Granite countertops ordered.
On top of that is rental fees to saw a hole threw the concrete to gain access to the crawl space so it can be monitered, sealed and insulated.


I allowed 2 days for this and am now on day 5 but couldn't be happier with the results even with the setbacks.
 
To give a little hindsight my wife and I built our home and wouldn't you know it I got laid off during the construction leading us to save where we could.... the floor. We had some Red Oak laying around and had it milled into a hardwood floor and I've hated it every since! When the wife pitched the idea of replacing it I was all for it except ripping up the tile too, we compromised on a floor I really liked with the agreement that the tile would go.... Bad idea!!!!!

So where it went wrong... I didn't like the fresh air return so I decided to rework it... Took the huge rectangular grate and cut a circular pattern out of it and whipped up an Oak trim ring.

Next problem was the transition (stairs) from the kitchen to the living room. Since the living room was added after the kitchen the stairs were built to mate to the old floor.... Had to be gutted and reworked.View attachment 517360 View attachment 517361 View attachment 517363 View attachment 517364 View attachment 517368

Then as I'm pulling up the old floor I find the dreaded termite damage!!! Fortunately it's very localized, there's a inaccessible crawl space that has a cold joint in the concrete allowing them to get threw. As it turns out they focused on a piece of dead flooring (dead prior to being sawed) and a joist in the crawl space and nothing else.. That I can find.

The killer was ripping out the tile that I initially refused too do, what a PITA!! Whoever says thinset mortar doesn't stick to wood is full of chit. 2days renting tools to find out that a chisel on our Bosch Hammer drill was the ticked and that's just to get the mortar up after the tile and backer board was already gone!

And then the money...
Our dishwasher recently started leaking... New dishwasher.
In order to remove the huge island I had to bust up the tile countertop... New Granite countertops ordered.
On top of that is rental fees to saw a hole threw the concrete to gain access to the crawl space so it can be monitered, sealed and insulated.


I allowed 2 days for this and am now on day 5 but couldn't be happier with the results even with the setbacks.
Looks Real Nice Dev!
 
Now is the time to find a friend with a pesticide license and drill the outside foundation and put terminte control to work. You will need the powder and liquid.
 
Looks like a whole "new" house . . . and you've finally gotten rid of that oak flooring that you didn't like to boot ! !

Big bummer on the termites . . . at least it's a very small area . . . The kicthen looks AWESOME ! ! !
 
Well that ate up your week off in a hurry! Sounds like it's been fighting you the whole way!

I know the granite counters were in the future plans anyways but sucks when you're forced to pull the trigger early.

The new floor does look phenomenal though can't wait to see the complete finished product.

I know you had garage time planned for this week so that's a bummer too. If framing the new section is going to happen on a weekend let me know
 
Never hurts to treat for those dreaded vermon even in new construction. Its standard procedure here for anything with a foundation. But who would have thought of them getting threw a concrete cold joint. Reminds me to saw and seal those when the time comes. Did you tie those cold joints in the concrete to prevent possible separation some day?
Why a crawl space without perminate access and is it monitored for possible radon gasses?
 
Very nice work. I recently discovered termites in our 120x60 cattle barn. Kind of hits you in the pit of the stomach when you first see them. Good luck.
 
There is ALWAYS something that causes a fairly straight forward project to "snowball". I like the floor, how it looks against the cabinets, and your creativity with the round vent cover. Press on Brother!
 
To give a little hindsight my wife and I built our home and wouldn't you know it I got laid off during the construction leading us to save where we could.... the floor. We had some Red Oak laying around and had it milled into a hardwood floor and I've hated it every since! When the wife pitched the idea of replacing it I was all for it except ripping up the tile too, we compromised on a floor I really liked with the agreement that the tile would go.... Bad idea!!!!!

So where it went wrong... I didn't like the fresh air return so I decided to rework it... Took the huge rectangular grate and cut a circular pattern out of it and whipped up an Oak t


Next problem was the transition (stairs) from the kitchen to the living room. Since the living room was added after the kitchen the stairs were built to mate to the old floor.... Had to be gutted and reworked.View attachment 517360 View attachment 517361 View attachment 517363 View attachment 517364 View attachment 517368

Then as I'm pulling up the old floor I find the dreaded termite damage!!! Fortunately it's very localized, there's a inaccessible crawl space that has a cold joint in the concrete allowing them to get threw. As it turns out they focused on a piece of dead flooring (dead prior to being sawed) and a joist in the crawl space and nothing else.. That I can find.

The killer was ripping out the tile that I initially refused too do, what a PITA!! Whoever says thinset mortar doesn't stick to wood is full of chit. 2days renting tools to find out that a chisel on our Bosch Hammer drill was the ticked and that's just to get the mortar up after the tile and backer board was already gone!

And then the money...
Our dishwasher recently started leaking... New dishwasher.
In order to remove the huge island I had to bust up the tile countertop... New Granite countertops ordered.
On top of that is rental fees to saw a hole threw the concrete to gain access to the crawl space so it can be monitered, sealed and insulated.


I allowed 2 days for this and am now on day 5 but couldn't be happier with the results even with the setbacks.

AH the life of a home MOANER!
 
Never hurts to treat for those dreaded vermon even in new construction. Its standard procedure here for anything with a foundation. But who would have thought of them getting threw a concrete cold joint. Reminds me to saw and seal those when the time comes. Did you tie those cold joints in the concrete to prevent possible separation some day?
Why a crawl space without perminate access and is it monitored for possible radon gasses?
Youthful ignorance is the answer for the inaccessible crawl space.... Lesson learned and fixing it now. My wife and I built the house when I was in my late 20s with plenty to learn lol.

I've learned quite a bit this week from the 2 outfits I've had look at it including the benefits of pre treating haha. Also my 9 year old boy is a bug and animal expert so he's been educating me as well.... I'm amazed at how much the little guy actually knows.

As for tying it in, sure did. I purchased a foam form locally and poured a 10" thick basement then added the 8' radius footer that's 7-8' ft deep pinning it into the basement every foot with rebar. Also the 3' stone wall on top is a continuous pour with rebar as well.

So tell me about saw a seal? I know hydraulic cement works great and I am looking to seal it the best I can.
 
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Well that ate up your week off in a hurry! Sounds like it's been fighting you the whole way!

I know the granite counters were in the future plans anyways but sucks when you're forced to pull the trigger early.

The new floor does look phenomenal though can't wait to see the complete finished product.

I know you had garage time planned for this week so that's a bummer too. If framing the new section is going to happen on a weekend let me know

Actually I'm pretty pleased overall with the exception of the tile removal, the garage can happen whenever but this had to stay rolling once started. My wifes timing also saved us from a lot of damage seeings how this was caught early. As for the counters... more good timing, Lowes had a special where we're getting them at nearly half cost so I'm happy as can be. When I start a project I don't like leaving things for later so it's all good.


Now is the time to find a friend with a pesticide license and drill the outside foundation and put terminte control to work. You will need the powder and liquid.

Still contemplating what I'll do. I already treated the affected area but will doing something more outside. The Orkin man wants to drill holes and trench around the exterior then do a liquid treatment.... He pissed me off and won't be doing anything for me. The 2nd guy was very helpful and even told me how to resolve it myself but his method is traps which seam to be the way to go. The Orkin gut wanted to do traps too but because I've got a foam formed basement it's not "guaranteable" so no go?? He offered no help with the issue at hand unless I bought the whole $2,000 job! Outios

Here's what I saturated the area with.
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And here's a picture of my house that I'm working on . . . The windows in the radius area is where the footer is

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Actually I'm pretty pleased overall with the exception of the tile removal, the garage can happen whenever but this had to stay rolling once started. My wifes timing also saved us from a lot of damage seeings how this was caught early. As for the counters... more good timing, Lowes had a special where we're getting them at nearly half cost so I'm happy as can be. When I start a project I don't like leaving things for later so it's al


Still contemplating what I'll do. I already treated the affected area but will doing something more outside. The Orkin man wants to drill holes and trench around the exterior then do a liquid treatment.... He pissed me off and won't be doing anything for me. The 2nd guy was very helpful and even told me how to resolve it myself but his method is traps which seam to be the way to go. The Orkin gut wanted to do traps too but because I've got a foam formed basement it's not "guaranteable" so no go?? He offered no help with the issue at hand unless I bought the whole $2,000 job! Outios

Here's what I saturated the area with.View attachment 517564


Had Sears give me a price to side my house $32,000 if I signed then, if I waited $38,000. Answer get out of here. Local contractor $16,000.
Big company big overhead.
 
747 feel your pain on all of this ,when I had built my pole barn with my wife I never had any problems with ants ,just them dam spiders and no field mice ,twenty five years later I am just starting to get mice moles and them dam chip and dales bought a **** load of traps and peanut butter ,to bad you cant sell there Fn fur ,but they do burn quick :thumbsup:
 
Youthful ignorance is the answer for the inaccessible crawl space.... Lesson learned and fixing it now. My wife and I built the house when I was in my late 20s with plenty to learn lol.

I've learned quite a bit this week from the 2 outfits I've had look at it including the benefits of pre treating haha. Also my 9 year old boy is a bug and animal expert so he's been educating me as well.... I'm amazed at how much the little guy actually knows.

As for tying it in, sure did. I purchased a foam form locally and poured a 10" thick basement then added the 8' radius footer that's 7-8' ft deep pinning it into the basement every foot with rebar. Also the 3' stone wall on top is a continuous pour with rebar as well.

So tell me about saw a seal? I know hydraulic cement works great and I am looking to seal it the best I can.
Saw a 3/8 by 1 1/2 joint, place a foam backer rod at 1/2 and fill top with silicone. Will not let water or vermin threw the joint and will contact and expand with concrete.
If you do this in the garage use a fuel resistant sealer.
A little late for all this in the house unless you feel
Iike taking the floor up again but if there is a next time.
 
Saw a 3/8 by 1 1/2 joint, place a foam backer rod at 1/2 and fill top with silicone. Will not let water or vermin threw the joint and will contact and expand with concrete.
If you do this in the garage use a fuel resistant sealer.
A little late for all this in the house unless you feel
Iike taking the floor up again but if there is a next time.

The floor isn't in over this mess yet, I laid the floor from the opposite side of the home up to here and stopped. I'm taking care of this now, been in the hole for hours drilling an access hole threw 10" of concrete and rebar! I learned a lesson now I'm taking my lashings lol.
 
747 feel your pain on all of this ,when I had built my pole barn with my wife I never had any problems with ants ,just them dam spiders and no field mice ,twenty five years later I am just starting to get mice moles and them dam chip and dales bought a **** load of traps and peanut butter ,to bad you cant sell there Fn fur ,but they do burn quick :thumbsup:

Never had termites just dust mites which can easily be taken care of..... Took me years to figure out where them damn chipmunks were getting in but found it.. They'd roll nuts around between the drywall and insulation driving you mad. Turns out they chewed threw the screen in the attic vents, now the screen is stainless steel..... Chew on that!
 
Took me years to figure out where them damn chipmunks were getting in but found it.. They'd roll nuts around between the drywall and insulation driving you mad.!
Funny ****
 
The floor isn't in over this mess yet, I laid the floor from the opposite side of the home up to here and stopped. I'm taking care of this now, been in the hole for hours drilling an access hole threw 10" of concrete and rebar! I learned a lesson now I'm taking my lashings lol.
Thats a hard lesson. You able to stand and do it? My luck it would be all laydown minimal work space electric and air tools only.
 
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