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Best Path to 450hp + 5sp For $15k?

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I have a 68 Charger that has a 360 and 727 now. I’d like to convert to a 5spd and about 450-500hp. Good Tremec kits are about $6k. That leaves Labor is about $2500 including chassis reinforcement.

That leaves approx $6.5k for engine.

Option 1 New 408 Stroker
408 Stroker from Blueprint complete engine $6600. 445hp/500 ft-lbs

Option 2 440 Stroker
440 from cmengines $5400. 400hp. Or theirs 500hp stroker Engine for $8k. I suppose 80hp for $1600 is worth it so perhaps the 500 stroker.

Option 3 Supercharge or Stroke
Supercharge my 360 - which would likely put me well over 500hp. But I doubt it can be done done for $6500 including any reqired mods to engine. Same goes for buying a stroker kit, machining my block and associated labor.

I am thinking option 2 is best - albeit options 1 and 2 might handle better with a small block.

What do you guys think? Oh, for what it’s worth I will also be doing AC at the same time.
 
Because of the weight of your Charger, I would lean towards a 451 or 440. Easy to get 500 hp with either.
 
I have to agree when it comes to the B-body car I like the torque of the bigblock best. Ron
 
I have a 68 Charger that has a 360 and 727 now. I’d like to convert to a 5spd and about 450-500hp. Good Tremec kits are about $6k. That leaves Labor is about $2500 including chassis reinforcement.

That leaves approx $6.5k for engine.

Option 1 New 408 Stroker
408 Stroker from Blueprint complete engine $6600. 445hp/500 ft-lbs

Option 2 440 Stroker
440 from cmengines $5400. 400hp. Or theirs 500hp stroker Engine for $8k. I suppose 80hp for $1600 is worth it so perhaps the 500 stroker.

Option 3 Supercharge or Stroke
Supercharge my 360 - which would likely put me well over 500hp. But I doubt it can be done done for $6500 including any reqired mods to engine. Same goes for buying a stroker kit, machining my block and associated labor.

I am thinking option 2 is best - albeit options 1 and 2 might handle better with a small block.

What do you guys think? Oh, for what it’s worth I will also be doing AC at the same time.
Why not try a Gear Vendor overdrive?
 
USCartool subframe connectors. Inexpensive and required.
 
We've Machined/Built/and Dyno'd plenty of .030" over 360's, using ported factory 308 cast iron heads and a lowly XE274H CompCams Flat Tappet Hydraulic Cam in the 440-450HP range, so I see no reason why any other 360 built with today's plethora of available Aluminum Head offerings could not exceed 450hp, even closer to 500hp depending upon Camshaft/Piston selection.
I didn't see the gears/Tire combo you are planning other than a "5 speed", nonetheless here, it should be remembered that with a "360" the Camshafts required between 450-500hp will sacrifice some lower end characteristic in attaining the desired power higher up rpm-wise. Expect a 3,000-6,000 rpm band.

That said,
and Trq being KING on the street with the heavier B-Body, some investigation of a std 440 combo with their very forgiving flat Trq curves may be well worth some investigation ?

WHY the 5 spd ? Highway cruising O.D. ?
 
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We've Machined/Built/and Dyno'd plenty of .030" over 360's, using ported factory 308 cast iron heads and a lowly XE274H CompCams Flat Tappet Hydraulic Cam in the 440-450HP range, so I see no reason why any other 360 built with today's plethora of available Aluminum Head offerings could not exceed 450hp, even closer to 500hp depending upon Camshaft/Piston selection.
I didn't see the gears/Tire combo you are planning other than a "5 speed", nonetheless here, it should be remembered that with a "360" the Camshafts required between 450-500hp will sacrifice some lower end characteristic in attaining the desired power higher up rpm-wise. Expect a 3,000-6,000 rpm band.

That said,
and Trq being KING on the street with the heavier B-Body, some investigation of a std 440 combo with their very forgiving flat Trq curves may be well worth some investigation ?

WHY the 5 spd ? Highway cruising O.D. ?
Flat Torque. In the basement.
 
440source.com sells stroker kits to make a 440 block 500 or 512 cubic inches for only $2000. You could find an old 440 block and do that and they make close to 600hp with good heads and cam. They also sell heads for $1000 a set.
 
1 horsepower per cubic inch is pretty easily done so the closer your cubes get to your hp goal the cheaper and more reliable it is. The added torque is also a huge plus as well. I like the stroker small block idea as well but you'll likely spend more and have to spin it faster to get to your goal. A simple 440 with a little work will get you there.
 
We've Machined/Built/and Dyno'd plenty of .030" over 360's, using ported factory 308 cast iron heads and a lowly XE274H CompCams Flat Tappet Hydraulic Cam in the 440-450HP range, so I see no reason why any other 360 built with today's plethora of available Aluminum Head offerings could not exceed 450hp, even closer to 500hp depending upon Camshaft/Piston selection.
I didn't see the gears/Tire combo you are planning other than a "5 speed", nonetheless here, it should be remembered that with a "360" the Camshafts required between 450-500hp will sacrifice some lower end characteristic in attaining the desired power higher up rpm-wise. Expect a 3,000-6,000 rpm band.

That said,
and Trq being KING on the street with the heavier B-Body, some investigation of a std 440 combo with their very forgiving flat Trq curves may be well worth some investigation ?

WHY the 5 spd ? Highway cruising O.D. ?

I was thinking a manual would be fun on the car. I have actually gone back and forth on this. If I stay automatic and add overdrive to 727 it will be easier to cruise with family. Plus not to mention saving $6k.

Part of me thinks a manual would be lots of fun another part thinks a BB doesn’t need a manual to be fun and I can leave the shifting to some other little sporty toy!
 
I was thinking a manual would be fun on the car. I have actually gone back and forth on this. If I stay automatic and add overdrive to 727 it will be easier to cruise with family. Plus not to mention saving $6k.

Part of me thinks a manual would be lots of fun another part thinks a BB doesn’t need a manual to be fun and I can leave the shifting to some other little sporty toy!
Manual and a 440 is a long lasting vibrant marriage....I wouldnt want it any other way.....
 
Zora Duntov built the 454 Big Block Corvette with an Auto because that's what he loved to drive
Blower on your 360?
 
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