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Steering parts interchangeability questions. Help Please!

dennis degeneffe

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I have a 65 belvedere that has the 273/904 column shift (cable). No power steering. This car is getting a 1970 340. I want to add power steering. I have had no luck finding the correct column or the steering shaft to put in my column. My next thought would be to change to a 1966 or later column. ( automatic on the column) My question is, are the later columns interchangeable with the early b bodies like mine?... would it be a bolt in no brainer? I realize if I went that route my transmission would need to be replaced with a 1966 or later unit, because of the cable/linkage difference. (that is fine by me, my 904 needs a rebuild)
I know there are a lot of knowledgeable mopar gurus on this site. I can't seem to find this info elsewhere. Thanx guys.
Oh , and if you have parts I may need including the p/s pump and gear box, let me know!
 
i would call the guys at firm feel and see what they suggest for a p.s box .
and i added p.s. to my 67 belve and i cut the steering shaft and welded the oe steering joint on at the bottom
they do sell jobber u joints to weld on , you need to figure that out
the thing about mods they always look so easy once there done!
 
I have a gearbox off of my 67 for sale on here. Upgraded to Borgeson. It was rebuilt in 2013 and I don think it has many miles since that as I bought the car from a body shop on 2016 and it had been there awhile. I also have the automatic linkage (727 not sure if its different) and a partial column so if someone with more knowledge confirms the power shaft from the 67 will fit your 65 column then I have that as well. . I had to tear it down to get the floor mount plate off when I went to an ididit tilt column. PM me if interested. Can you post a pick of your current setup?
 
I'm not an expert on this, especially the early/mid 60's Mopars, but I did convert my 70 from manual to power, so hopefully some of what I learned applies here. Some of this most people know, but I will repeat it anyway.

1. Manual steering shafts are longer than power steering shafts.
2. Other than shaft length, column automatic & "3 on the tree" manual collars (column shift vs. floor shift), 90% of all columns are the same for the same year/make/model with some overlap between years....most parts can be used in a conversion.
3. The steering shaft in my 70 (& maybe yours too) "telescopes" like an antennae. It has an inner shaft & an outer shaft held in place by two plastic "sheer pins" which go through both shafts. Supposedly this is so in a front end collision, the steering shaft itself (in addition to part of the column) can collapse instead of just spearing your through the chest.

On my car 4spd car, I bought a complete column-shift automatic power steering column & transplanted just the steering shaft into my floor-shift manual steering column. The p/s column had apparently been in an accident & had partially "collapsed" (I couldn't just tell by looking), so it was about 2" too short when I tried to install it. To fix this, I pulled the inner shaft out of the outer shaft (vise + vise grips/hammer) until I could see the "wear marks" line up. I also double-checked the total length based on info. I got from FBBO members here. I drilled/tapped two holes through the outer/inner steering shafts, screwed in some plastic screws I bought at the hardware store & ground off the excess plastic... voila! I had new plastic "sheer pins".

Now the good part for you. I realized later that since I was going from a longer (manual steering) shaft to a shorter (power steering) shaft, I "could" have taken a different (& cheaper) approach. I "could" have just broken my plastic shear pins, pulled out the inner shaft, cut the inner shaft with a hack saw (and/or outer shaft) down to the power steering length, made my "home-made-hardware store" shear pins & been done. I really didn't "need" to buy the other column. Also, it's at least "possible" (I'm not sure) that I could have just "telescoped down" my shaft to the correct, shorter length and not had to cut anything at all.

Bottom line is you can find the power steering column shaft length for your year & cut down your column to the correct length....done.
 
I have a 65 belvedere that has the 273/904 column shift (cable). No power steering. This car is getting a 1970 340. I want to add power steering. I have had no luck finding the correct column or the steering shaft to put in my column. My next thought would be to change to a 1966 or later column. ( automatic on the column) My question is, are the later columns interchangeable with the early b bodies like mine?... would it be a bolt in no brainer? I realize if I went that route my transmission would need to be replaced with a 1966 or later unit, because of the cable/linkage difference. (that is fine by me, my 904 needs a rebuild)
I know there are a lot of knowledgeable mopar gurus on this site. I can't seem to find this info elsewhere. Thanx guys.
Oh , and if you have parts I may need including the p/s pump and gear box, let me know!
I am going to be removing the power steering box off of my 65 Coronet in a couple of weeks if you can wait. It is getting a new one from Borenson. Let me know if you are interested and I will get back to you.
 
I have a 65 belvedere that has the 273/904 column shift (cable). No power steering. This car is getting a 1970 340. I want to add power steering. I have had no luck finding the correct column or the steering shaft to put in my column. My next thought would be to change to a 1966 or later column. ( automatic on the column) My question is, are the later columns interchangeable with the early b bodies like mine?... would it be a bolt in no brainer? I realize if I went that route my transmission would need to be replaced with a 1966 or later unit, because of the cable/linkage difference. (that is fine by me, my 904 needs a rebuild)
I know there are a lot of knowledgeable mopar gurus on this site. I can't seem to find this info elsewhere. Thanx guys.
Oh , and if you have parts I may need including the p/s pump and gear box, let me know!
I believe that I have a steering column and shaft for your car as well. It is a column shift car.
 
I believe that I have a steering column
I believe that I have a steering column and shaft for your car as well. It is a column shift car.
I am interested in column/shaft and steering box. ( do you have the pump?) let me know the price.
and shaft for your car as well. It is a column shift car.
 
I believe that I have a steering column and shaft for your car as well. It is a column shift car.
Hi Jetblast. How is Your project coming along? I was wondering if the power steering box, column and shaft are available yet? looking forward to hearing from You.
 
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