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14 in tire recommendations?

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Hello.
I am seeking recommendations for 14¨ radial tires for my 67 Charger (440 HP). It currently has P225/70r14 AW Performance Radial GT tires on it . They were on the car when I acquired it in 2012 and were not even then in good condition. This will be a daily driver as my wife has wanted a 67 Charger as her all time ¨last¨ car.
What I do not want: poor UTOG wear & traction ratings nor howling tread noise.
I do see BF Goodrich Redline tire with fairly good ratings, plus surely look the part on these cars... but are pricey for a B traction rating. Pirelli used to have some great AW 14 inch tires, but I do not seem to find them now. So...... suggestions, Please.

2: Suggestions for modern windshield wiper arms and blades for this 67 gal? I have never been a fan of the originals not when new (spent too much time as high school gas station jockey changing them ALL Winter) and especially in retired years!!
Thank you
 
440 in 67 Charger. Ditch the 14"s and go 15's. Better selection of tire. Geatly increased stability. Do what it takes to keep her safe.
 
440 in 67 Charger. Ditch the 14"s and go 15's. Better selection of tire. Geatly increased stability. Do what it takes to keep her safe.
I must be missing something. ¨Greatly increased stability.¨ ???
Please expound on this theory because I fail to see anything beyond greater rotational mass coupled to-through the same 10¨ brake drums with the same 10 x 2-1/2¨ brake linings also still transmitting the various load vectors through stock axle bearings, spindles. YES, I certainly see your point about wider product selection for the 15¨ tires, and that may in the end drive the decision.
Anyone any ideas about the windshield wiper arm and blades? ;-)
Thank you, all for a GREAT place to enjoy our love of our cars!!!!
 
Smaller tires tend to wonder and follow the deviations in the road, instead of going over them. Also, smaller tire, smaller contact patch. That's less tire gripping the road under wet conditions, thus resulting in skids. Or, in emergency braking conditions, you'll skid into objects you don't want to.
 
Smaller tires tend to wonder and follow the deviations in the road, instead of going over them. Also, smaller tire, smaller contact patch. That's less tire gripping the road under wet conditions, thus resulting in skids. Or, in emergency braking conditions, you'll skid into objects you don't want to.
My point exactly. Thanks
 
Hello.
I am seeking recommendations for 14¨ radial tires for my 67 Charger (440 HP). It currently has P225/70r14 AW Performance Radial GT tires on it . They were on the car when I acquired it in 2012 and were not even then in good condition. This will be a daily driver as my wife has wanted a 67 Charger as her all time ¨last¨ car.
What I do not want: poor UTOG wear & traction ratings nor howling tread noise.
I do see BF Goodrich Redline tire with fairly good ratings, plus surely look the part on these cars... but are pricey for a B traction rating. Pirelli used to have some great AW 14 inch tires, but I do not seem to find them now. So...... suggestions, Please.

2: Suggestions for modern windshield wiper arms and blades for this 67 gal? I have never been a fan of the originals not when new (spent too much time as high school gas station jockey changing them ALL Winter) and especially in retired years!!
Thank you

Does your Charger have the factory 14" wheels? What is the width of your rims? Are they 5.5" inch like my 69 Road Runner? Looks like the minimum approved wheel width for P225/70R14 tires is a 6" inch wheel width.

Anyway, I too am going against the grain and starting off my restoration with the factory 14" inch wheels. If I find they truly are death trap crazy dangerous, I'll upgrade. I want to experience the factory original rim for myself first before skipping by them.

I'm looking at a more modern all-season tread so old school and expensive BFG T/As are out. I'm currently looking at the following:

General Tire Altimax RT43 P215/70R14 - Link

Uniroyal Tiger Paw AWP II P215/70R14 - Link

The Tiger Paw is a white wall and that could be interesting if you wanted to try for a Redline look with some Rally Red Ranger Tire Paint - Link

A couple ideas...
 
I like those whom can not benefit from someone elses past experience. But heck go for it.
 
Smaller tires tend to wonder and follow the deviations in the road, instead of going over them. Also, smaller tire, smaller contact patch. That's less tire gripping the road under wet conditions, thus resulting in skids. Or, in emergency braking conditions, you'll skid into objects you don't want to.
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My point exactly. Thanks

In point of fact, or more exactly, point of tire deformation contact (rubber hits the road) the difference between 14´s and 15´s is less than 3/4¨ long... and the myth of wider contact area being safer on wet surfaces is even more dubious. I was once involved doing engineering analysis of aircraft landing gear -> tire dynamics so I can and DO aver that modelling the various elements and resulting translation forces is the stuff that knocks grey cells loose,takes a lot of complex transform mathematics and keeps ME´s sleepless.
But, for ourdiscussion since we are not playing with slot cars nor RC toys we may be fairly sure that aside from the much increased sidewall translation forces into the suspension system (which IS the cause of accelerated ball joint- tie rod steering gear wear) with our radial tires (tyres); that wander, follow road deviations, misunderstood loss of control in hard lock up skid conditions, is not the result of the difference of a few inches circumferential length or even smaller deformation contact area.
 
Does your Charger have the factory 14" wheels? What is the width of your rims? Are they 5.5" inch like my 69 Road Runner? Looks like the minimum approved wheel width for P225/70R14 tires is a 6" inch wheel width.

Anyway, I too am going against the grain and starting off my restoration with the factory 14" inch wheels. If I find they truly are death trap crazy dangerous, I'll upgrade. I want to experience the factory original rim for myself first before skipping by them.

I'm looking at a more modern all-season tread so old school and expensive BFG T/As are out. I'm currently looking at the following:

General Tire Altimax RT43 P215/70R14 - Link

Uniroyal Tiger Paw AWP II P215/70R14 - Link

The Tiger Paw is a white wall and that could be interesting if you wanted to try for a Redline look with some Rally Red Ranger Tire Paint - Link

A couple ideas...
Yea!! A fellow traveller.

Yep, Altimax RT43´s and the Tiger Paw AWP II´s are what I had just seen before your posting. My Charger came with 6¨ wheels which is why they have P225/70R14 tires on them. MoPAR engineering was pretty savvy though there are a good many head in anus; we never thought about what it takes to service that drat, blammed can't see it let alone get a wrench on it joys built into these machines. Several of my friends with daddies deep pockets had new fire breather turn rubber to more of daddies largess 68 & 69 Chargers, Road Runners, hemi and or 440 Magnum they all had stock 14 in tires and wheels. We never found them any more dangerous than anything else off the show room. So I am certain you will not find your experience: ¨ death trap crazy dangerous¨, and certainly merely changing to a 15 wheel - tire would not ameliorate that. But then of course you and I can't seem to benefit from others opinions. I'm betting you will be pleased with your stock real deal experience. ;-)
 
Please note, I didn't say there was anything wrong with 14's. Just listed a few things for consideration.
 
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In point of fact, or more exactly, point of tire deformation contact (rubber hits the road) the difference between 14´s and 15´s is less than 3/4¨ long... and the myth of wider contact area being safer on wet surfaces is even more dubious. I was once involved doing engineering analysis of aircraft landing gear -> tire dynamics so I can and DO aver that modelling the various elements and resulting translation forces is the stuff that knocks grey cells loose,takes a lot of complex transform mathematics and keeps ME´s sleepless.
But, for ourdiscussion since we are not playing with slot cars nor RC toys we may be fairly sure that aside from the much increased sidewall translation forces into the suspension system (which IS the cause of accelerated ball joint- tie rod steering gear wear) with our radial tires (tyres); that wander, follow road deviations, misunderstood loss of control in hard lock up skid conditions, is not the result of the difference of a few inches circumferential length or even smaller deformation contact area.

Jesus Christ man...You engineer types REALLY overthink stuff!
 
As time flies by, 14 and 15 inch tires are becoming harder to find. I run 15's and a 275/60/15 on the back, and they are somewhat seasonal to find, not always available. The original 775 bias on 14's were, to say the least, marginal, in today's world. You should try to bring the car up a notch, safety and performance wise, do to the fact, your , wife, will be driving.
 
Yep! So much proof out there that modern wide tires are sooo much safer when it comes to powerful rear drive automobiles... YouTube - Link

The increased "stability" is phenomenal!!!!!

It all comes down driving habits and what one is doing, or not doing...
 
Yep! So much proof out there that modern wide tires are sooo much safer when it comes to powerful rear drive automobiles... YouTube - Link

The increased "stability" is phenomenal!!!!!

It all comes down driving habits and what one is doing, or not doing...
Nothing more true!
 
As time flies by, 14 and 15 inch tires are becoming harder to find. I run 15's and a 275/60/15 on the back, and they are somewhat seasonal to find, not always available. The original 775 bias on 14's were, to say the least, marginal, in today's world. You should try to bring the car up a notch, safety and performance wise, do to the fact, your , wife, will be driving.
My point is that merely increasing spinning disk diameter/mass does not constitute an ¨upgrade¨ in safety or performance. Actually, good bias ply tires were never less safe or less capable from a stability - controllablity (non-word we all slip into using from time to time) stand point. What we most disliked about them was the time it took them to become round again and the attendant thumping of them until they warmed up. Anyway, I take the points about future size availability to heart. I'll likely be on the other side of the grass by then and the ¨new world order crowd¨ will have made our beloved cars a crime against their collective mindless masses to own (indeed to own anything will not be allowed! ;-)
As we drive less than 2500 miles a year and NEVER on interstate or tollways, never feel the need to demonstrate the monster under the hood (it is enough to know is is there to give a toothy grin at it´s rocking growling idling) my wife is perfectly.... err... the car is perfectly safe in her hands! Now of course on those once in a blue moon romps around Blackhawk Raceway.... Well that´s my light the fires up the back straightaway drive...but only once or twice in this life with two close friends in their 70 440 ´Cuda´s and only when we have the track to ourselves (old flying buddies grip-n-grin to each other as it were).
Thank you, All on these forbbodiesonly forums!
Semper Fi!
 
Jesus Christ man...You engineer types REALLY overthink stuff!
Soooooooooooooooooo very true!! Plus of course the ever sagacious wife just wandered in to rub my nose in page 32 of the 67 Charger Owners Manual. Where in is stated that if one wishes to use radial ply tires it is recommended to change to 15¨ wheels. Thus many expletive word combinations creating a blue haze deeper that burning rubber smoke were expelled and still hang moderately heavily in the air! Alas, life always curves back at you with the big pie ready to hit your face.... ever it was, shall be. So let us all have a good laugh and say we enjoyed the adventure herein engaged.
 
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I'm running Cooper Cobra 235 60 14 on Mopar 14x5.5 rallye wheels on the front of my 73 Satellite.

They have better traction/treadwear ratings than the Coker reproduced BFG Radial TA, and are cheaper.

I did get a bad pair the first time. That pair was old date code stock and developed "busted belts" after only 2 years.

This current pair has lasted over 3 years and still going.

The 255/60/15 rears I bought with the original pair of 14" fronts is also still going almost 6 years later.

...and no, they don't follow pavement lines or wander.

That sounds like bias ply tire characteristics.
 
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That's very odd. I've never noticed or heard that.
I wonder what the reasoning is.

I've run 14" radials at least on the front on every vintage Mopar I've ever owned for over 30 years.
 
14s are getting a bit harder to find especially if you want raised white letters. I have had exceptional luck with the BFG Radial GTs and they are quite easy to find everywhere. Another reason I went with that model.
But if you want to stick with 14s, there is nothing wrong with that size, I have they are fine.
 
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