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Need opinions on the price of a 440

gmcgone*gtx

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I have found a newly rebuilt 1969 440 engine and I'd like to ask you guys for an option about a price. (I am going to ask him for the name of the guy who did the rebuild on it)
This is the description he gives of it.

It was rebuilt a year ago and has a performance cam it was built by a very famous engine builder here. The motor is a 1969 with the steel crank.

In your opinion what is a good price for it if everything checks out?

Thanks
 
I have found a newly rebuilt 1969 440 engine and I'd like to ask you guys for an option about a price. (I am going to ask him for the name of the guy who did the rebuild on it)
This is the description he gives of it.

It was rebuilt a year ago and has a performance cam it was built by a very famous engine builder here. The motor is a 1969 with the steel crank.

In your opinion what is a good price for it if everything checks out?

Thanks

It can be anything from no more than the price of the parts, to $8,000. For me, an engine's power output is really important. Usually a low $ motor (<$3500) comes with low $ head work (i.e.<$1500) and 1.99 CD pistons and to me is not worth much more than a junk yard motor because to do it right, you need to start over. But this is just one man's opinion.
 
I have an original 69 440 with 79k miles on it (steel crank high compression motor) that ran well when it was pulled but it's been sitting (in a garage) for over 20 years. Not trying to hijack your thread but offering it as a price comparison. I've been asking $1500. again, NOT rebuilt, turns over but hasn't been started.
 
Without paperwork he can say anyone built it. Do you have a bore scope? Pull the plugs and have a look into cylinders, ask to pull a valve cover to do an inspection on the heads etc...
 
be careful and good luck. Even paper work doesnt mean anything anymore. I want to see the builder face to face at his shop. I agree pull valve cover. If your talking big bucks pull pan. Now adays everyone is ripping people off. Usually big dollar engine you can hear them run before buying.
 
Can you call the “engine builder” ? If he is so revered he probably has a memory or records of what went into the engine. Without real verifiable info it’s jusy another engine. I was fortunate enough to talk to the guy who did mine.

Good luck!!

Joey D.
 
I bought a project car with the "freshly rebuilt engine" by a known west coast engine builder talked to him on the phone and the engine while having all the parts new was done wrong. As in cam bearing installed wrong, crank and bearing tolerences not correct. and number of other things that had to be redone. Better off buying a good engine that needs rebuilding and do it from scratch with reputable shop to do the machine work.
 
It is true that many people who either rebuild a motor themselves or buy a rebuilt motor will try to sell it cheap if there's a problem. We bought a rebuilt 360 once at a swap meet for $150. It was pretty and looked great but when we put it his motor home it didn't have any oil pressure. He pulled it, bought a crank kit, redid the bottom end (costing more than he paid for the motor) and put it back in and STILL didn't have oil pressure! At that point he sold the whole motor home..CHEAP.
 
all true
pull the valve covers and check the numbers on the heads
run a compression check
post up the cam numbers
any other brand names and part numbers like pistons
was it balanced?
cast or forged crank with correct dampner
what manifold and carb
sometimes you get lucky sometimes not
 
You need to know more about the parts and machine work done to the engine.
If the engine was built by a well known person, then contact them to find out about the build.
I'm not well known, but have "built" engines for other people and often have to use the parts the customer supplied which may not make an ideal combination.
 
I wouldnt trust anybody enough to buy a "rebuilt" engine. To easy to get F××ked.

Exactly!
I think I'm going back to looking for a 440 block in Texas. At least then I could have my machinist check it out and decide if it's a good one or not. I don't have the expertise, myself. I trust his judgement.
 
Exactly!
I think I'm going back to looking for a 440 block in Texas. At least then I could have my machinist check it out and decide if it's a good one or not. I don't have the expertise, myself. I trust his judgement.
Thats your best bet
 
Why is the guy selling it? Problems?
If he had it rebuilt, he will have all the receipts, cam card, parts list, etc. If he says he didn't keep any of this, run away. Or buy it as a core.
 
Hey all.

Thank you all for your advice and input on available engines
It's highly appreciated.

I think I'll pass on this rebuilt one.
I's questionable and I don't have enough knowledge or the experience to inspect it myself.

It's also too far away for me to send my trusted machinist friend to have him check out.
It wouldn't be very honorable of me to ask him to go check it out in another state
It's been rebuilt already and that would basically take promise of my business away from him.
No can do.

I'll look for a local block that's in decent condition a good candidate for a rebuild.
I've discovered that 440 blocks are hard to find or too far away and/or expensive.
I'd be more comfortable finding one close to home at a reasonable price but, no luck so far.
This could take awhile.....

My block turned out to be junk.
It's toast and not worthy of rebuilding

I really was looking for a decent '66 to '71 440 block (automatic) to have rebuilt when I came across this rebuilt one in New Mexico. I wasn't necessarily looking for an already rebuilt engine.

But, that got me to thinking that a complete rebuilt engine at a decent price might make more sense financially.

Maybe more sense than having to first even find an era correct block in decent condition, then the cost of rebuilding it and still have the expense of everything else that's needed to get it road worthy.

I'm not planning to take it to the track.
It doesn't have to have a professional highly built performance engine.

I just want a good running 440 for my '67 GTX to enjoy again for my personal pleasure.
I just want to restore the car and maybe drive it on weekends to a few local car shows.

I have invested a fair amount into the car already and I know I will need to put some money into the engine.
The costs of rebuilding the engine plus all the additional parts that it will need before I can get it back on the road.
That's a given.

But, I'm not talking about a huge investment into an engine for a car that's only for my personal pleasure.
It isn't going to be a numbers matching car. that sells at Barret Jackson.
Don't give a flip about BJ.

I do have pretty much all the original parts, both exterior and interior that the car came with.
The body work and paint have already been completed.

Mechanically, it's a different story.
It's an old muscle car and like most it's been rode hard.
The suspension, the front end, etc. will all need work/replacement.
I knew that going in.

And I expect there will be things that pop up that I didn't consider.
But, while I know there are costs related to restoring it, I don't have limitless deep pockets.



It all comes down to what do i want,
who's work can I trust
and how much am I willing to spend?

And not getting skunked on the journey.
 
Why is the guy selling it? Problems?
If he had it rebuilt, he will have all the receipts, cam card, parts list, etc. If he says he didn't keep any of this, run away. Or buy it as a core.

He said he was moving and wouldn't have any available storage anymore.
 
Anyone ever heard of a machinist named Jes Jenkins in New Mexico?
 
What part of Texas are you in ? I have a 68 block/forged crank I might consider getting rid of.

PM me if interested.
 
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