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Door seals

383MovingViolation

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Where is the best place to get new door rubber seals for my '68 Roadrunner ? Thanks
 
i would ask Richard 69bfan on here
he would know what is available and the best option is for you.
 
If anyway possible, I would suggest using a set of originals. We have been involved in various aspects of manufacturing and selling various brands of weatherstripping for over 28 years and nothing beats the OEM pieces. As long as your originals do not have major tears or rips, they can possibly be cleaned up and reused. The rubber for the most part holds up very well for 50 years of service.

You can remove the door panels and take a pair of side cutters and cut the nylon clips that attaches the seal. Do this around the entire perimeter of the door. You may find that a previous owner has glued the seal in place in certain areas, but a razor blade can easily slice through the glue. Once removed, wash the seals with a good detergent and remove the remains of the old clips, they will simply fall out of lock end of the seal. Replace the nylon clips which can be purchased from a number of vendors. Coat with a good rubber treatment and your ready to install and saved yourself $50 and have a much better seal than any of the reproductions.

If your seals are torn and past saving and your going to replace them with a reproduction, then your pretty much going to have to use one of the three manufactures. The most popular brand being the Metro Brand, second would be the Steele Rubber and third would be the Soft Seal Brand.

Many people believe that Metro and Soft Seal is one in the same. They are two entirely different businesses and the Soft Seal Brand falls under the Trim Parts umbrella which falls under a even larger parent corporation of a variety of businesses. Metro markets its brand as "Soft Seal" which leads to the issue.

The problem with any of the weatherstripping is getting it to react consistently in the production process. An extra ounce of any one material, a difference in pressure or temperature can drastically affect the finished product. That is why one seal fits great when the second set is way too large or hard to allow the door to close without slamming it shut.

Just like burgers or soft drinks, everyone has a personal preference. The Metro piece is more pliable than the Soft Seal brand and conforms better to the doors but the bulb profile is slightly off. The Soft Seal piece is more correct in the profile of the seal, and is more like the OEM piece in the durometer reading of the rubber. The Steele piece is a nice piece and is a mix of the Metro and Soft Seal brand. One thing about Steele is that your looking at around $155 for a set of seals. The others are $65 to $95 depending upon which vendor that you decide to go with.

Hopes that this helps as we always get this question and there is no definite answer. If you should need more information or insight, just drop me a message.
 
with removing the seal off the door

you don't have to cut the clips
some of them i don't think you can reach into the corners to be able to cut.
if you are patient,you can get a small flat head screw driver
and gingerly work the clips loose from the top side and save them all.
lift the seal up to find the clip and
there is a certain direction to push on the clip with the screw driver
and a little wiggle and it will fall right out of the hole.
it does take a little bit to figure out and get the hang of
but that is where the patience part comes in.
once you get the hang it is very easy to do.
i can get a seal off a door all clips intact in just a few minutes.
 
Frank,
You are 100% correct in that the seals can be removed without cutting the clips. I have found that some people have different levels of finesse working on these old cars and that they end up tearing the seals which will ultimately end up having to glue the seal in place if the holes are torn out. Secondly, I always replace the clips as it is cheap insurance. The clips retail at 30 cents each and for $15, all of the clips can be replaced for a positive seal.
 
If anyway possible, I would suggest using a set of originals. We have been involved in various aspects of manufacturing and selling various brands of weatherstripping for over 28 years and nothing beats the OEM pieces. As long as your originals do not have major tears or rips, they can possibly be cleaned up and reused. The rubber for the most part holds up very well for 50 years of service.

You can remove the door panels and take a pair of side cutters and cut the nylon clips that attaches the seal. Do this around the entire perimeter of the door. You may find that a previous owner has glued the seal in place in certain areas, but a razor blade can easily slice through the glue. Once removed, wash the seals with a good detergent and remove the remains of the old clips, they will simply fall out of lock end of the seal. Replace the nylon clips which can be purchased from a number of vendors. Coat with a good rubber treatment and your ready to install and saved yourself $50 and have a much better seal than any of the reproductions.

If your seals are torn and past saving and your going to replace them with a reproduction, then your pretty much going to have to use one of the three manufactures. The most popular brand being the Metro Brand, second would be the Steele Rubber and third would be the Soft Seal Brand.

Many people believe that Metro and Soft Seal is one in the same. They are two entirely different businesses and the Soft Seal Brand falls under the Trim Parts umbrella which falls under a even larger parent corporation of a variety of businesses. Metro markets its brand as "Soft Seal" which leads to the issue.

The problem with any of the weatherstripping is getting it to react consistently in the production process. An extra ounce of any one material, a difference in pressure or temperature can drastically affect the finished product. That is why one seal fits great when the second set is way too large or hard to allow the door to close without slamming it shut.

Just like burgers or soft drinks, everyone has a personal preference. The Metro piece is more pliable than the Soft Seal brand and conforms better to the doors but the bulb profile is slightly off. The Soft Seal piece is more correct in the profile of the seal, and is more like the OEM piece in the durometer reading of the rubber. The Steele piece is a nice piece and is a mix of the Metro and Soft Seal brand. One thing about Steele is that your looking at around $155 for a set of seals. The others are $65 to $95 depending upon which vendor that you decide to go with.

Hopes that this helps as we always get this question and there is no definite answer. If you should need more information or insight, just drop me a message.


Until I started looking, I didn't know how hard it is to find this seal. Somehow my car has 2 different door seals. the passenger side is good, very pliable and the door shuts good. the driver's side seal is more stiff and it looks like it is a little thicker. The door just does not shut right so I just want to replace it
If anyway possible, I would suggest using a set of originals. We have been involved in various aspects of manufacturing and selling various brands of weatherstripping for over 28 years and nothing beats the OEM pieces. As long as your originals do not have major tears or rips, they can possibly be cleaned up and reused. The rubber for the most part holds up very well for 50 years of service.

You can remove the door panels and take a pair of side cutters and cut the nylon clips that attaches the seal. Do this around the entire perimeter of the door. You may find that a previous owner has glued the seal in place in certain areas, but a razor blade can easily slice through the glue. Once removed, wash the seals with a good detergent and remove the remains of the old clips, they will simply fall out of lock end of the seal. Replace the nylon clips which can be purchased from a number of vendors. Coat with a good rubber treatment and your ready to install and saved yourself $50 and have a much better seal than any of the reproductions.

If your seals are torn and past saving and your going to replace them with a reproduction, then your pretty much going to have to use one of the three manufactures. The most popular brand being the Metro Brand, second would be the Steele Rubber and third would be the Soft Seal Brand.

Many people believe that Metro and Soft Seal is one in the same. They are two entirely different businesses and the Soft Seal Brand falls under the Trim Parts umbrella which falls under a even larger parent corporation of a variety of businesses. Metro markets its brand as "Soft Seal" which leads to the issue.

The problem with any of the weatherstripping is getting it to react consistently in the production process. An extra ounce of any one material, a difference in pressure or temperature can drastically affect the finished product. That is why one seal fits great when the second set is way too large or hard to allow the door to close without slamming it shut.

Just like burgers or soft drinks, everyone has a personal preference. The Metro piece is more pliable than the Soft Seal brand and conforms better to the doors but the bulb profile is slightly off. The Soft Seal piece is more correct in the profile of the seal, and is more like the OEM piece in the durometer reading of the rubber. The Steele piece is a nice piece and is a mix of the Metro and Soft Seal brand. One thing about Steele is that your looking at around $155 for a set of seals. The others are $65 to $95 depending upon which vendor that you decide to go with.

Hopes that this helps as we always get this question and there is no definite answer. If you should need more information or insight, just drop me a message.
 
We are a stocking distributor for Metro and all of the other brands of weatherstripping. Just drop me a private message and we can take care of your needs.
 
If anyway possible, I would suggest using a set of originals. We have been involved in various aspects of manufacturing and selling various brands of weatherstripping for over 28 years and nothing beats the OEM pieces. As long as your originals do not have major tears or rips, they can possibly be cleaned up and reused. The rubber for the most part holds up very well for 50 years of service.

You can remove the door panels and take a pair of side cutters and cut the nylon clips that attaches the seal. Do this around the entire perimeter of the door. You may find that a previous owner has glued the seal in place in certain areas, but a razor blade can easily slice through the glue. Once removed, wash the seals with a good detergent and remove the remains of the old clips, they will simply fall out of lock end of the seal. Replace the nylon clips which can be purchased from a number of vendors. Coat with a good rubber treatment and your ready to install and saved yourself $50 and have a much better seal than any of the reproductions.

If your seals are torn and past saving and your going to replace them with a reproduction, then your pretty much going to have to use one of the three manufactures. The most popular brand being the Metro Brand, second would be the Steele Rubber and third would be the Soft Seal Brand.

Many people believe that Metro and Soft Seal is one in the same. They are two entirely different businesses and the Soft Seal Brand falls under the Trim Parts umbrella which falls under a even larger parent corporation of a variety of businesses. Metro markets its brand as "Soft Seal" which leads to the issue.

The problem with any of the weatherstripping is getting it to react consistently in the production process. An extra ounce of any one material, a difference in pressure or temperature can drastically affect the finished product. That is why one seal fits great when the second set is way too large or hard to allow the door to close without slamming it shut.

Just like burgers or soft drinks, everyone has a personal preference. The Metro piece is more pliable than the Soft Seal brand and conforms better to the doors but the bulb profile is slightly off. The Soft Seal piece is more correct in the profile of the seal, and is more like the OEM piece in the durometer reading of the rubber. The Steele piece is a nice piece and is a mix of the Metro and Soft Seal brand. One thing about Steele is that your looking at around $155 for a set of seals. The others are $65 to $95 depending upon which vendor that you decide to go with.

Hopes that this helps as we always get this question and there is no definite answer. If you should need more information or insight, just drop me a message.

69bfan.......Thanks for not only sharing your knowledge and insight, but also for the willingness to do so....on this & the many other topics you have responded to.....Jim
 
Hopefully my post can be beneficial to some as this hobby has been very good to myself and family. And by family, it includes many of you who have supported us through the years.

I hate to see restorations get side tracked. Many of them can be averted, especially in this day of researching a product or a technique. And it is even more frustrating to see good money thrown at a poor restoration when things could have avoided. So I will try to help as much as possible.
 
If anyway possible, I would suggest using a set of originals. We have been involved in various aspects of manufacturing and selling various brands of weatherstripping for over 28 years and nothing beats the OEM pieces. As long as your originals do not have major tears or rips, they can possibly be cleaned up and reused. The rubber for the most part holds up very well for 50 years of service.

You can remove the door panels and take a pair of side cutters and cut the nylon clips that attaches the seal. Do this around the entire perimeter of the door. You may find that a previous owner has glued the seal in place in certain areas, but a razor blade can easily slice through the glue. Once removed, wash the seals with a good detergent and remove the remains of the old clips, they will simply fall out of lock end of the seal. Replace the nylon clips which can be purchased from a number of vendors. Coat with a good rubber treatment and your ready to install and saved yourself $50 and have a much better seal than any of the reproductions.

If your seals are torn and past saving and your going to replace them with a reproduction, then your pretty much going to have to use one of the three manufactures. The most popular brand being the Metro Brand, second would be the Steele Rubber and third would be the Soft Seal Brand.

Many people believe that Metro and Soft Seal is one in the same. They are two entirely different businesses and the Soft Seal Brand falls under the Trim Parts umbrella which falls under a even larger parent corporation of a variety of businesses. Metro markets its brand as "Soft Seal" which leads to the issue.

The problem with any of the weatherstripping is getting it to react consistently in the production process. An extra ounce of any one material, a difference in pressure or temperature can drastically affect the finished product. That is why one seal fits great when the second set is way too large or hard to allow the door to close without slamming it shut.

Just like burgers or soft drinks, everyone has a personal preference. The Metro piece is more pliable than the Soft Seal brand and conforms better to the doors but the bulb profile is slightly off. The Soft Seal piece is more correct in the profile of the seal, and is more like the OEM piece in the durometer reading of the rubber. The Steele piece is a nice piece and is a mix of the Metro and Soft Seal brand. One thing about Steele is that your looking at around $155 for a set of seals. The others are $65 to $95 depending upon which vendor that you decide to go with.

Hopes that this helps as we always get this question and there is no definite answer. If you should need more information or insight, just drop me a message.
This is good info to know. I've saved my old seals and they did clean up quite nicely. They had overspray on them from years ago, soaking in brake fluid took the paint off, then a good washing made them look clean.

When you mention the "Soft Seal" brand, did you mean Soff Seal? https://www.soffseal.com/
 
We are a stocking distributor for Metro and all of the other brands of weatherstripping. Just drop me a private message and we can take care of your needs.
I tried to PM you but all I get is a forum error and I can't get past that.
 
383MovingViolation, I just tried to send you a Private Message and your inbox is full. That may be the issue that your not able to send or receive private messages. You will need to go to your inbox and delete or move some of your previous messages.
 
Photon 440, you are correct on the listing for the Soff Seal brand.
 
I purchased all new seals for my Coronet through Classic Industries. You have sparked my curiosoty. Which brand of the three you mentioned did I end up with?
 
I cannot imagine that they are repackaging the product, but I have never purchased from them. It is not uncommon within the industry to purchase in bulk and package the product in your own packaging. I would think that they are selling the Metro brand. I am very confidant that they are not selling the Steele brand due to the pricing structure. Classic has its own manufacturing division under the OER branding. I know that they have their own trunk seal extrusion that they purchase from a third party.
 
Thanks for the quick reply. When I installed them almost two years ago, the doors were much harder to close. I thought this was normal and that they would "fit in" but they are still very hard to close. They seem to be good quality and the fit was excellent, just much harder to close the doors.

Thanks again.
 
383MovingViolation, I just tried to send you a Private Message and your inbox is full. That may be the issue that your not able to send or receive private messages. You will need to go to your inbox and delete or move some of your previous messages.

Done, thank you.
 
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