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Sears

steve from staten island

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With Sears closing more stores i was wondering is Sears future sealed. Will they the giant they were someday close completely. At one time the name Sears implied quality and American value. Ive heard the usual excuses about labor costs and retirement benefits which is complete rubbish as Sears offers profit sharing.
Ive also heard that Sears never went the on line route and didn't change with the times.
Your views on this American icon. Thanks
 
Sears around me are late to the party, they’re now clearing out most storefronts and placing everything online. Sad to see them go been going there since I was a kid. Sears, k mart and Montgomery ward my parents took me to all the time.
 
I remember when Craftsman tools were the staple of America..... sad..........
 
I have a 1951 Elgin outboard my father bought from Sears brand new. Knowing my dad that was completely unlike him to buy something for sheer enjoyment. He bought it on time and i still have this little payment book that he deposited a few dollars in every week until it was paid.
I found out there was this lake maybe upstate or in the Poconos that he went with my mother. I figured he wanted the outboard to motorboat on the lake. Doing the math i think maybe he might have conceived me that summer of 51.
I guess after was born the lake excursions were a thing of the past. He never got rid of that outboard and i still have it and hope to restore it someday.
Sears played a part in the lives of many of us. My brother worked there for years and met his wife there. I bought many a Christmas or birthday present there. My parents gave me a Craftsman 1/2 drive socket set as a present when i was about 12.
Now we have Amazon and somehow its just not the same
 
Going to Sears was always fun since I was a kid.
"Sears has EVERYTHING" used to be their motto.
Sad to see them in their death throes.
 
Sears is done, stick a fork in them! Lowes and Rona now have the sales rights to Craftsman !
 
I always missed the old Sears store in Trenton, NJ. It was so much nicer than the "new" one when they moved to the Quakerbridge Mall. I think they were doomed the day they were joined with K-Mart.
 
bad management over the years did them in
they were amazon before Jeff Bezos was even a thought in his parents mind..
 
I have many older craftsman tools. Good stuff but from back 30 plus years ago.
I agree its a shame to see them going down the tubes.
Our kids used to wear out the Xmas catalog LOL just looking and wishing thats over 40 years back. oh crap Im getting old.
Sears and the order from the catalog idea along with the others , Wards , Pennys, ect may have Kicked off the online shopping, shows at your door step, idea but they never knew it would be the death of them.
 
Monkey Wards was done a long time ago but thought Sears would pull through but I guess not. In the late 60's my girl friend at the time had a 56 Plymouth 4 door that her dad rebuilt with a Sears flat head 6 3 speed stick in it. That sucker ran just a bit faster than my 66 Belvedere II did with a poly 318 auto with me driving the 56! Couldn't believe that flat head ran that good and it was a total surprise. Oh well....
 
It is ironic that they started out with a strong catalog sales product line but are now seemingly not online with the same presence as other retailers. I have bought ALL of my appliances from Sears.
My FIRST credit card was from Sears. Oddly, they had GASoline pumps! I damn near maxxed out that card just buying gasoline at the age of 19.
 
They’re done. They’ll sell off any lines they still have the rights too and go down choking. I went to a Sears store to look at appliances several years ago when we remodeled our kitchen. Place was a retail disaster compared to the other retailers we went to and knew then they were toast. It’s unfortunate because of the history behind them but it’s also it’s also the American way - survival of the fittest. They didn’t keep up with the times. JC Penny’s is right there on the bubble. Next to go.
 
They’re done. They’ll sell off any lines they still have the rights too and go down choking. I went to a Sears store to look at appliances several years ago when we remodeled our kitchen. Place was a retail disaster compared to the other retailers we went to and knew then they were toast. It’s unfortunate because of the history behind them but it’s also it’s also the American way - survival of the fittest. They didn’t keep up with the times. JC Penny’s is right there on the bubble. Next to go.
Sad but true I'm afraid. These big retailers are as much victims of the internet as anything else, along with shopping malls and such. We're well on the way of being a countryside full of el cheapo retail (Wally World and below) and fast food restaurants (because we can't be bothered to actually cook for ourselves anymore - that's inconvenient, too).

I sometimes watch videos on YT from folks who do the "urbex" (urban exploring) thing and go through shut down retail stores and dead malls and such - there's tons of that content out there to view.
I used to wonder why I found such things so fascinating and figured it was simply to kill time in the wee hours of the night as I didn't sleep but didn't want to disturb my wife, but over time it finally dawned on me the reason why:
Nostalgia.
I miss things they way they used to be, when people were more social and decent with one another.
Times when going to the mall during Christmas season was a time-honored ritual, when kids got ahold of the "Wish Book" from Sears and made sure to indicate to their parents what they wanted for Christmas in it.
Times when the family actually went out and did things together in the real world.
That sort of thing.
If you want to get really deep about it from there, such things are indicative, at least to me, of the continued erosion of our culture, our ideal western civilization, our family unit and therefore our society and country.

I'm old enough to remember when...and I miss it.
I've lost most all of my family now, so there's that whole side of nostalgia, too.
I'm now watching my country vanish, too.
It's a shame kids now can't possibly grow up in the world I did and I feel for them, too. We've done them a great disservice.
 
Here's another one that brings back memories: Free Spirit bicycles. Sears sold this line and I remember them back when we got new bikes as kids. We always got Free Spirit bikes because Sears always gave my father credit and he was in debt to them forever. When I finally 'graduated' from the banana-seat muscle bike to the ten-speed English Racer was a glorious time. I rode wheelies all over the place on that bike.

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I remember when my dad needed money, he would go and buy a $100 gift certificate on his Sears card, then use that certificate for something small, like shoelaces, just to get the $90-some-odd dollars in change. I never knew how he survived financially with five kids, but Sears Credit is how he got through. Remember when it meant you were someone special if you were able to get a Sears Card? They would deny everyone back in the day, and then if you got one you learned quickly that you didn't want it, but if you had one it meant you could get other credit cards: Sears was the staple - if you didn't have credit with Sears, you weren't worthy. I remember the legal battle they went through where they started reporting everyone late on their payments, creating a frenzy with their customers in the 1980s. I was one of those people, and they had started reporting me as 30+ days late and my credit score was affected. I called and asked them why, showing that my check cleared my bank two days before the Due Date, and they actually told me that the "Due date" was 30 days late, and by the time my bank paid on the check it was at 31 days (Holiday weekend). I argued with them over that. They were bastards when it came to credit and how they handled their accounts, then straightened up when they started getting into legal trouble for it.

Sears was the place we went for everything: Toughskin jeans is another line I remember getting - we hated them because they would rub our inside thighs raw until they finally softened up after a few washings. Christmas toys all came from Sears, everyone's clothing, and of course gasoline. We had a huge Sears parking lot at White Oak (Maryland) and the gas line would sometimes get to be about 80-90 cars long. It spanned across the Sears lot and down a side access road, we'd all throw frisbees, play catch, people would juggle and converse, and when the line moved everyone just pushed the cars forward... no anger, no animosity... it was like a trip to the park: Hey, let's go get in line for gas at Sears today and meet some new people! lol

I think the only thing we never got at Sears was shoes - which we got from another American icon: Kinney Shoes, which owned Franks Casuals and Footlocker at one time.

A funny side story about Kinney's:
As mentioned, I had four siblings, and one year while we were getting shoes my dad was doing the routine "Matt, sit down. Marc, pick out a shoe. Michael, you can't have those. Marty, stay in this section here." yes, my parents named all us boys with 'M', and my mom was pregnant at the time with my (unbeknown) sister. In the next aisle over, my father heard a guy saying: "Michael, get back over here. Martin, sit down and try these on. Mark, pick out a shoe. Matt stop looking at the expensive ones." My father was getting furious, tired of the guy in the next aisle mocking him.

Finally, dad had enough. So he walked around the corner to give that 'jerk' a piece of his mind, only to find a family in the next aisle with five boys: Mark, Mike, Matt, Marty, and Miles - which would have been my sister's name if she was born a boy. They had a good laugh, and the guy admitted that he, too, thought the guy in the next aisle was mocking him.

But I digress... I think when the 'family' concept that we all grew up with went away, so did the idea of big stores like Sears, Kinney Shoes, Monkey Wards, Hecht's (an East Coast department store that also began over a hundred years ago), etc. What memories!
 
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Sears is in Chapter 11 bankruptcy. J C Penney stock dropped below $2.-/share in August, isn't back yet.

I remember the Sears catalog in the 70's. It was still big then.
 
Sears used to be the place, especially the place the older folks trusted for stuff. But they've blown it so many ways its hard to summarize. The hardware stores value fell apart after a short time, like when they moved the appliances out there.... they had parts listings online for about everything in the world, but stocked not much of it. They took over K-mart, and ran that the rest of the way into the ground.... Truly an American icon into the toilet. Along those lines, I feel that GM better get its head out of its own ***, or they'll be right behind. Anybody else reading that news??
 
But I digress... I think when the 'family' concept that we all grew up with went away, so did the idea of big stores like Sears, Kinney Shoes, Monkey Wards, Hecht's (an East Coast department store that also began over a hundred years ago), etc. What memories!

Born in 59, grew up as a kid thru those times, remember it well !!!!How ever, I remember a time when Sunday was a day of rest and family. Nothing was open, Saturday by six pm, silence.....
Every Sunday you were at a family function, if you wanted to be or not, oh yeah, as a kid you did not have a choice, then came 1985, and everything changed....We are lucky to see family 3 times a year now , Christmas, Thanks giving and Easter. I personally ,miss those times.
 
Born in 59, grew up as a kid thru those times, remember it well !!!!How ever, I remember a time when Sunday was a day of rest and family. Nothing was open, Saturday by six pm, silence.....
Every Sunday you were at a family function, if you wanted to be or not, oh yeah, as a kid you did not have a choice, then came 1985, and everything changed....We are lucky to see family 3 times a year now , Christmas, Thanks giving and Easter. I personally ,miss those times.

I cant disagree with a word of this. I can see this thread turning political real fast too, unfortunately. Some folks will say change is good, essential, and needed. Others will notice that if it weakens the family unit (bond) and dissolves our good will towards man, it can only cause problems for the whole world.
 
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