I KNEW it......

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Love the Far Side! Could you even imagine what the next ten years would be like if the word got out that we were facing an Extinction level event? Absolute chaos. 24/7 everywhere.

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As I understand it, this particular Comet is a dark color and is very hard to detect at great distances. However, we do know what it's solar orbital trajectory is, and it's a long one. It is also huge. As it gets closer to the sun it will begin off gassing and we will be better able to track it and study what, of anything, it will do. At this stage of humankinds development a fragment even 1 kilometer wide would be an extinction event. Given that we are currently around 500 years past the typical time when the next Ice Age cool down was supposed to begin, an artificial Nuclear Winter going into the start of an Ice Age would wipe us out or almost...something that big could conceivably cause things like crustal displacement. huge earthquakes and Tsunami's. It wont be pretty and some on this Planet will almost certainly use such a crisis to take advantage of the world order.

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I would love to see one of the space agencies send out a spacecraft to collect data such as size, composition, pictures, and velocity. If they have some idea of the trajectory, then send out one spacecraft to scout its location and vector; and then send a second one to collect data.

I hereby nominate Elon Musk to abandon Tesla and redirect his efforts to finding this big rock, but I would rather see the JPL do it.

AND THEN came the ‘ b-bodies ‘ !!!!!

DeltaV said:

I would love to see one of the space agencies send out a spacecraft to collect data such as size, composition, pictures, and velocity. If they have some idea of the trajectory, then send out one spacecraft to scout its location and vector; and then send a second one to collect data.

I hereby nominate Elon Musk to abandon Tesla and redirect his efforts to finding this big rock, but I would rather see the JPL do it.

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Scientists Find Evidence For A 60 Mile Wide Comet That Plunged Into Earth Just 13,000 Years Ago
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The hypothesis is that massive wildfires blotted out the Sun, cooling temperatures and plunging the Earth back into an ice age. University of Kansas

By Josh Davis
02 Feb 2018, 17:46

At the end of the Ice Age some 13,000 years ago, the northern hemisphere seemed to be hotting up as glaciers were retreating and grasslands spreading. But then something happened: there was a sharp drop in temperatures and a return to glacial conditions for another thousand years.

This sudden cooling event is known as the Younger Dryas, and the causes behind aren’t fully understood. Now a new study is claiming to have found further evidence for the argument that the onset of this cold period occurred after Earth was bombarded with comets that set off vast wildfires.

“The hypothesis is that a large comet fragmented and the chunks impacted the Earth, causing this disaster,” said Professor Adrian Melott, who co-authored the study published in The Journal of Geology. “A number of different chemical signatures – carbon dioxide, nitrate, ammonia and others – all seem to indicate that an astonishing 10 percent of the Earth's land surface, or about 10 million square kilometers, was consumed by fires.”

As these fires whooshed across the landscape, the smoke and ash they created were swept up into the atmosphere, blocking out the Sun, altering ocean currents, killing wildlife and plants, and cooling the planet once more.

There has long been a fair amount of skepticism about the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis, to put it lightly. The hypothesis first emerged in 2007, and maintains that around 12,800 years ago there was some form of comet impact on Earth that triggered the Younger Dryas.

There have been various discoveries that have been suggested as proof of the validity of the hypothesis. One includes tiny, glassy “spherules” that were discovered in Pennsylvania a few years back, which it is argued were formed by the impact. Another suggests that the traces of platinum found on the Greenland icecap is a result of the impact event.

Only last year, ancient carvings uncovered on a stone temple in Turkey that dates to 13,000 years old were interpreted as representing what may have been the impact. Discovered at Gobeekli Tepe in the south of the country, the researchers argue that the images show the fragmenting comet and that the pillar they were etched on may “have served as a memorial to this devastating event”.

This latest study used data collected from 170 different sites around the world to see if they could find evidence of the massive fires that they say would have raged. They are claiming that the evidence does indeed show that there were huge wildfires, bigger in fact than the ones after the Cretaceous impact event that did away with the dinosaurs.

They argue that this would help explain the shifts and extinctions seen in animals at the end of the Pleistocene, as well as human cultural changes seen at the time.

So, it isn't necessarily survival of the fittest...it is survival of the lucky.

In my view the so called experts are in one of two camps; The Iron Bound nothing is going to make me believe anything but what I already know to be true, camp. And the; well hell, look at the mountains of data and use a little logic and it becomes obvious and all the pieces fit. camp While the two groups fight it out many pieces of the puzzle are being destroyed in Middle East countries every day...

DeltaV said:

So, it isn't necessarily survival of the fittest...it is survival of the lucky.

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I suppose that depends on your definition of lucky.

Wow guys....wow. Here's a few comments
1. The craters found so far have proven to be the size of kilometers wide fragments, not baseballs. Billions of tons of rocky iron moving at 1000's of miles per second, impacting miles deep ice. Boom, melting is on. Kilometers wide & we're an explosion of dust.....big pieces...sure. Most of this makes sense.
2. I think all of science is suspect... It is supposed to be that way. Scientists don't believe things until they are very, very sure. Scientists suspect the work of other scientists, not because scientists are part of the "deep state", but because science evolves slowly & is skeptical of itself.
3. Every person who puts forth a theory/hypothesis has an agenda. it usually involves money and power/fame. ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. 99% of all science is some guy studying the mating habits of some moth in Africa for his entire life. He dedicates his entire life to something that nobody except maybe 10 people in the world give a rat's *** about. "Hopefully" "some day", maybe a hundred years later, some tiny piece of information that scientist wrote down helps a different scientist cure cancer or something. Most of the time it just adds a tiny piece of new knowledge to humankind.

The massive building projects built in ancient times just blow me away; and especially the ones that have monolithic blocks of stone that are so perfectly fitted together. Then, at the other end of the scale there is the Antikythera mechanism. Incredible.

Which reminds me. What about Edward Leedskalnin that built Coral Castle all by himself in Florida? Pretty wild too.

He dedicates his entire life to something that nobody except maybe 10 people in the world give a rat's *** about.

And, since this is the case, is it more. or, less likely this scientist would jealously guard his ideas, work product, discoveries, articles and papers published that detail his beliefs , findings and theories? I would argue for more likely, and here's why; Human nature. Sure there are people who are so "decent" that they share and bend and compromise in the thirst for the truth of whatever they are interested in. Most humans are not wired that way. Humans are greedy, jealous, distrustful, conniving ladder climbers who clutch their accomplishments to their breasts and defend them against all comers in the quest to not be diminished in the eyes of others. Power is a corrupt master. Gaining it is a quest, keeping it is a battle. Scientists of all stripes routinely ridicule others hypothesis's when those ideas contradict the established narrative. Graham Hancock is STILL being excoriated on a daily basis even after finds like Gobekli Tepe seem to prove him to be correct all along. No sir, I have little faith in truth being disseminated by these scientists. They will do and say whatever thing preserves the status quo, and , or, their own findings on the subject.

Some years ago it was reported that there were buildings that closely matched the descriptions of buildings in Atlantis in one of the rural areas of Spain, if memory serves me correct.

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Some years ago it was reported that there were buildings that closely matched the descriptions of buildings in Atlantis in one of the rural areas of Spain, if memory serves me correct.

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There are many places that are suspect. What some do not realize is that there may have been more than one advanced civilization that was wiped out by the global catastrophe. There are more than one now......and we all have and use about the same tech....why not then?

More food for thought....

After studying up on Peru/ Bolivia monuments such as Tiahuanaco where it has been proven that the astrological alignment alone dates it to 17,000-15,000 BC , it occurs to me that perhaps ALL of the various monolithic structures around the globe were built by ancient advanced civilizations in an attempt to pass on to future civilizations the clues of their existence in the face of oncoming cataclysm. Consider this; IF you were part of an advanced civilization, with all the attendant disciplines and technologies of today, and you were sure that an extinction event was coming from space in the form of an impact to the planet, AND you became sure that your civilization would not survive in the form of paper records and technologies, would you not then seek to find a way to immortalize your existence? I think yes. If so, what form would this take, one that would survive beyond the apocalypse? It would need to be BIG, and VERY heavy, and be decipherable by future humans. What messages could you impart with this structure? pictographs of animals and people, stone carvings of information about yourselves and others, Astronomical data with which to date the structure without error, etc....if you wanted to link your structure with others around the world at the time you could align them all with mathematical precision and astronomical precision to the stars at the time. In FACT, this is exactly what was done as is seen by both precision alignments being true and observable today. Those alignments are mathematically precise on a global scale, proving another message to us from them, namely," We were a global civilization, and advanced to the point of using physics and complex equations, astronomy, and geology, engineering beyond what we have even today, and all the rest. And all of this could not have been easily constructed DURING an Ice Age. So WHEN was it done? Before the ICE AGE? This stuff bears more thought IMHO.

In addition to the above....could they have created "finer" monuments, out of other materials? I expect so, BUT would those materials survive intact after a Global Extinction event that would tear up the planet surface with fires and Earthquakes, and floods ect.? Doubtful, so better safe than sorry, build it in stone, the one thing sure to survive as it has always done so. So, stone then. okay then, lets use blocks of stone weighing 1000's of tons and in gigantic sizes because they will last, they will prove our prowess of engineering and capabilities by fitting them together in ways so that they will not allow even a sliver of space between them, and place all this high above the ground, and on foundations that will not vary for thousands of years. So they did. Can WE do the same now? No ..we cannot. What does that tell you about the builders? yep....I know. #becauseMachu Picchu, 10,000 feet in the sky on top of an inaccessible mountain. YET, it's built from quarried rock that had to be moved up there and fitted in place so precisely. Yeah, we cant do that. Use your heads. THEY did it. That fact alone seals the deal for me.

DeltaV said:

The massive building projects built in ancient times just blow me away; and especially the ones that have monolithic blocks of stone that are so perfectly fitted together. Then, at the other end of the scale there is the Antikythera mechanism. Incredible.

Which reminds me. What about Edward Leedskalnin that built Coral Castle all by himself in Florida? Pretty wild too.

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Yes, about that Antikythera mechanism. Those peoples who perished didn't have much hope it seems, that any of their tech would survive it. This enigma is an outlier for sure, a piece of tech that DID survive it. What else will we find?

Let's get back to "the simplest answer is usually the best/correct answer for a bit...

All around the world peoples started figuring out that at certain times of the year it was best to plant crops so they would be able to harvest before weather became a problem.

Then they figured out that certain events happened in relatively defined times with relatively predictable frequency...the solstices and equinoxes...

...and built as permanent a structure as they could to document/alert the general population of those times. The rest was measuring from those relatively constant points in time.

That is a fairly rudimentary concept.

Also after a means of writing and recording other than spoken word (and the inherent errors of that means) knowledge was able to be retained and built upon exponentially as humanity was no longer bound by what the smartest people could remember and pass along verbally to who they deemed the smartest of the next generation.

Kind of like adding a larger hard drive to your computer.

What if WE, today, knew we were going to be wiped out. For sure, no survival at all. Or perhaps very few. And those few would have to begin again with nothing in a new world that bears zero resemblance to what we know today?

YY1 said:

Let's get back to "the simplest answer is usually the best/correct answer for a bit...

All around the world peoples started figuring out that at certain times of the year it was best to plant crops so they would be able to harvest before weather became a problem.

Then they figured out that certain events happened in relatively defined times with relatively predictable frequency...the solstices and equinoxes...

...and built as permanent a structure as they could to document/alert the general population of those times. The rest was measuring from those relatively constant points in time.

That is a fairly rudimentary concept.

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I agree. However I posit that those Peoples, who I assume you are referring to the Neolithic, existed 8-10,000 years after these great edifices were built. So , logic progression tells us that whomever built these places already had this knowledge and more, long before our known ancestors did. Stonehenge as an example was built in like 2500 BC. 13,000 to 15,000 years after these places were built. Also keep in mind pre flood and post flood building. And pre flood was deep Ice Age.