PP1RT
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That sounds like fun. I've never been to a car auction before and that is a slower time of year for me. About an hour away for me so an easy drive.
Holy crap! The Coyote Johnson collection auction...
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Paul Boucher
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I just don't understand the hoarder mentality and not taking care of things. With all those cars he could have sold a few, or not bought a few, and built and actual nice building to store the cars and keep them in good shape. Maybe even had access to them to actually drive them and keep them running.
I work hard for my money and the things I buy and I just don't understand not caring for the things you work hard for and just chucking it aside and letting it rot away. I just really don't get it.
I see places like this often; one down the road from my house, with about 15 Mopars (Challengers, GTXs, Superbees, and some other classics that would be nice restored) out in the yard all over the place, not one of them running or covered, and just wasting away. I stopped by one day and talked to the wife (super nice) as the owner wasn't there and she says the usual, "he keeps saying he is going to restore them and I turn around and he brings another one home". She hates it and wishes he would sell most and keep a few and "actually" restore them. He has the 1969 Corvette that they went to prom in and she said she would love to have it restored and drive, but it is just sitting there rusting away. The bad thing is that right now a lot of them are in good to decent shape, not too badly rusted, and could probably be restored with not a lot of effort, but they won't be by the time someone is actually able to buy them away.
Hopefully at least these will go to new homes, have some new life breathed into them, and will be in a place where the owner will actually care for them.
I work hard for my money and the things I buy and I just don't understand not caring for the things you work hard for and just chucking it aside and letting it rot away. I just really don't get it.
I see places like this often; one down the road from my house, with about 15 Mopars (Challengers, GTXs, Superbees, and some other classics that would be nice restored) out in the yard all over the place, not one of them running or covered, and just wasting away. I stopped by one day and talked to the wife (super nice) as the owner wasn't there and she says the usual, "he keeps saying he is going to restore them and I turn around and he brings another one home". She hates it and wishes he would sell most and keep a few and "actually" restore them. He has the 1969 Corvette that they went to prom in and she said she would love to have it restored and drive, but it is just sitting there rusting away. The bad thing is that right now a lot of them are in good to decent shape, not too badly rusted, and could probably be restored with not a lot of effort, but they won't be by the time someone is actually able to buy them away.
Hopefully at least these will go to new homes, have some new life breathed into them, and will be in a place where the owner will actually care for them.
She owns the auction company and she is really nice and easy to work with ,what is up with people lately,just can't wait to tear someone down yeah that's so much fun being jerks to people !!!! Oh and my mopar is one of 40,000 made.
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see,to me what you just said is an opportunity @ Paul.
id visit that guy that lives close to you,when him and the wife are home,
preferably in an old mopar or collector car,
and then make a deal to perhaps partially resto a car for them in exchange for a project or two for yourself...?
its the same way here in ny as well,cars sitting going to rot and owners gonna fix them up someday.
someday usually never comes...
one of the stashes i knew about,the guy died and the widow hired a cleanout crew that crushed All the cars.
i cannot begin to tell you how bad that 1 hurt,there Was some Rare cars there.
every time i drive past his place it reminds me.
id visit that guy that lives close to you,when him and the wife are home,
preferably in an old mopar or collector car,
and then make a deal to perhaps partially resto a car for them in exchange for a project or two for yourself...?
its the same way here in ny as well,cars sitting going to rot and owners gonna fix them up someday.
someday usually never comes...
one of the stashes i knew about,the guy died and the widow hired a cleanout crew that crushed All the cars.
i cannot begin to tell you how bad that 1 hurt,there Was some Rare cars there.
every time i drive past his place it reminds me.
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Or even offer to help get one running and driving. Not talking about a complete restoration but more of a 'rescueration'. Who knows, just might strike up a great friendship or even get a business going.....
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Auctioneers generally don't know, nor care much about any one thing except for the few things they personally take an interest in.
She is personable enough, auctioneers are politicians to some degree; she gets a lot of money for the things she sells. At her NE sale, a 13,000 mile 63 Chevy Biscayne 4 door with rust holes in every panel brought $6k.
There won't be any run away deals at this sale as she draws international audiences, but if a guy did the due diligence and learned exactly what was, each and every car, he might be able to use the knowledge to get a good deal. At least avoid the loss, finding out the 68 Charger R/T was originally a 318 car.
She is personable enough, auctioneers are politicians to some degree; she gets a lot of money for the things she sells. At her NE sale, a 13,000 mile 63 Chevy Biscayne 4 door with rust holes in every panel brought $6k.
There won't be any run away deals at this sale as she draws international audiences, but if a guy did the due diligence and learned exactly what was, each and every car, he might be able to use the knowledge to get a good deal. At least avoid the loss, finding out the 68 Charger R/T was originally a 318 car.
PP1RT
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This guy has them stored inside and dry. She said he built buildings as he ran out of space. They are not wasting away in the weeds.
As far as your hard earned money i would bet you your hard earned money he is going to make a nice return on his "investment" when he sells out. He maybe is smarter than you?
He has a few he will not be selling. Maybe the ones he is selling are his savings account to pay for restoration of the ones he wants to keep? Find a car for a good deal. Sit on it for a number of years as the market goes up. Find a more desirable car. Sell the first car to help finance the next car? Just keep building forward til you get where you want to be.
That is how i do things. Cars, houses, whatever....buy and sell and build up. No high paying job. No silver spoon. No inheritance. No handouts.
Cornpatch MO
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I was going to reply , but PP1RT said my thoughts on this...I agree with him 100%. Whats the purpose of slamming the seller and the auction company? I don't know the guy, but he should be commended. He saved the cars INSIDE out of the weather. Maybe not in luxury, but it still cost him a lot of money and labor to put those building up. Why shouldn't he get a return on his investment?? I do know his money did not come easy. He worked and sacrificed to buy them. Personally, I would get a lot of enjoyment out of owning these cars. Now, if they were out in the weather, sinking into the dirt, rotting away till they had no value, then ya ---bitch away !!!...................MO
Paul Boucher
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Good points, and I hope I don't come off wrong about the subject, and apologize if I do, but I just don't understand it. I guess it's more from a comprehension stand point. I have no doubt he will make money. Had they been able to be kept in better shape he could have made even more and been able to drive them (which is what I would do, but that is just MO, and this gentleman did it different, not wrong, I just don't understand). I do commend him for not leaving them out to just rust, which is a lot better than some others. Heck my uncle is the same way and has 10 or so Mopars and a ton of parts, but not one of them driveable (other than the 1985 Dodge Ram 150 my dad left him when he passed away). My cousin and I have offered many times to help and there's always an excuse, as is what I find with these situations. Again it's his prerogative, but I just don't understand it. I guess I just wish all those "going to restore" it's were able to be "restored" it's.
Paul Boucher
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Thanks for the advise. I have stopped by a few times, but not been able to catch the gentleman. His house is right down the road from where we are building our house, but that is a ways from where we are staying currently. I had already planned on driving my car over there when we move it. I figured that is a lot easier way to start a conversation. I will feel him out and if he is open, like you idea, and will offer to help out. I would in general just to be nice as it's nice to find another fellow Mopar fan. Maybe my running Mopar will help motivate him to get one of his running. Thanks, Paul
PP1RT
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You didnt come off wrong. I am offering a perspective from the other side. Seems some people like to bash what they dont understand. Maybe i can shed some light.
I have a collection of $2 bills i have come across in my lifetime. Not worth anymore than $2 but i wont spend them. Same goes for silver dollars. I wont spend them. I use regular cash for purchases.
I have a collection of old fishing lures. They are not overly valuable but i wont take them fishing. They are cool to look at but i use the modern stuff to go fishing.
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You didnt come off wrong. I am offering a perspective from the other side. Seems some people like to bash what they dont understand. Maybe i can shed some light.
you do realize we are all mopar guys,right.( and some gals too )
and,if we can be Allowed to discuss it,
a Collector usually keeps their cars in a clean,safe controlled setting,
whereas a hoarder,usually keeps their stuff in barns outbuildings and fields.
thats my opinion.
lets use your post for an example.
you collect bills and lures..
a collector,would have them stored away or put in a place where they can be viewed but not trashed.
where the elements and the Animals couldnt get at them,correct?
a hoarder would have boxes of them stashed all over the place.
now,when i look at this guys stuff in the vid,i think to myself,that guy Was a hoarder.
you do realize we are all mopar guys,right.( and some gals too )
and,if we can be Allowed to discuss it,
a Collector usually keeps their cars in a clean,safe controlled setting,
whereas a hoarder,usually keeps their stuff in barns outbuildings and fields.
thats my opinion.
lets use your post for an example.
you collect bills and lures..
a collector,would have them stored away or put in a place where they can be viewed but not trashed.
where the elements and the Animals couldnt get at them,correct?
a hoarder would have boxes of them stashed all over the place.
now,when i look at this guys stuff in the vid,i think to myself,that guy Was a hoarder.
PP1RT
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So kept dry in a pole building is bad? Is dust that bad? The guys has them out of the elements and dry. The cars look to be pretty solid and complete. They have some dirt on them that will clean off. Being located in the midwest i would guess in these cars earlier lives they spent time in the elements and drove on wet salty roads maybe? They were just old cars at one time. I dont think those cars are deteriorating very fast stored that way. Seems to be some air movement (judging by the dust)to dry things out if it gets damp.
Some guys in the hobby want 100 point show cars. Some like drivers. Some like to pound them down the race track. Some like to alter them a long way from the way the factory made them. Some guys like to do the show scene and try to brag there car up to get a plastic trophy. Some guys just like having the cars around.
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I'm just amazed that we're still finding a stash of cars like this!
PP1RT
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I know of at least a half dozen. Couple more that i dont know if they still have them or not.
Cornpatch MO
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To me, " horder" sounds a little trashy, and "collector" sounds a little stuffed shirt. Who cares about political correctness?? Certainly not us mid West rednecks ! Even so, I don't think I would go to this auction and call anyone a hoarder....
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She stated that they are moving them to the fairgrounds. That's going to be a feat in itself with probably none of them running or holding air in their tires. What a job!
Cornpatch MO
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A few years ago, there was an auction in Northern Iowa. It was entirely DeSoto's and IIRC at least one of every year. No other brand of cars. They had been stored inside, and had been obtained over many years. Several had been " fixed up" as the owner had the time. Many were drivable, all but a few could be started up. All pretty solid restorable cars. .....Now,...... was it a collection, or was he a hoarder??... BTW same auction company ...............................MO
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