yella71
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Let's face it fast is fast...no matter how you get there, but the new cars drive like new cars and the old stuff well it drives like it drives. But I still like driving the old stuff fast.i think it's more of a challenge
Man, new cars are fast!
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Yep, with new cars, it doesn't feel that fast. With old cars 75 mph seems fast! Lol
Part of the thrill and necessary.
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New cars do everything better, but they don't have the charm and nostalgia that our old iron does.
Yes! The old iron has a soul, a persona...a personality ... individuality! The new ones come off as if they are drones & robots. That being said, I wouldn't mind having a Challenger with a 392...and no sunroof.
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I was never nostalgic for drying out the inside of the distributor cap to get started on a cold foggy morning. 
But I do miss hardtop two doors.
But I do miss hardtop two doors.
When you had to **** so bad you could taste it and that's all you had. I was born with a wooden spoon, a bought a silver one..... LOL. Just for the record, a 426 would have been perfect, a 383 would have been next to perfect, a 5.7 Hemi is my easy way out!!
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This is next weekend at PPIR. It should be great....except snow is predicted.
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You do realize all that was in high gear for years (by good ol' Chrysler engineers) before the formation of FCA, right?
The Italians still don't have much of anything to do with Ram, Dodge or any of our modern hotrods. They're smart in letting our guys run with their show and in fact have allowed budgets for all the fun we're having right now, up to and including 1000hp hemi's from the factory.
That happened years before FCA, of course - but yes, I didn't agree with using "GTX", or "Super Bee" or any of those names on a pickup, sadly perpetrated by our own Ram guys at the time.
That much is certain.
After the malaise of the 70's and 80's, and the apparent industry "solutions" of turbo 4 banger this and that, who ever thought we'd see the likes of actual V8 RWD performance cars in this country again?
Let others get all giddy about self-driving cars.
Me, I'm eating up all this V8 horsepower war stuff.
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Technology has come a long way. But you also have to remember the real fast new cars all use power adders. And that's because technology has them working much better today so they can warranty them. Yes they are still fast without the power adders but the power adders is what puts so much power in newer cars. I have seen some breaking in the 11's N/A though. But I don't think its a fair comparison comparing boosted to non boosted cars. Ron
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I agree and I can make my old car fast much much cheaper then I can buy a new car for. Ron
After they get this new Jeep truck out of the way, I look for them to put a Dodge on the same frame. You may get your wish.
My 65 looks like it has 300 pounds of REAL chrome on it, that part I love. Back then model change lasted for months and months and the body changed ever year. Today these cars look like they are a hunk of rolling plastic, that I hate. Technology has made making a car a lot easier and cheaper to build and it's not fair to compare the power or handling. It's the look you get, the feeling of being different, the fact that it's still on the road and runs. No new car can give you that, but get in a 392, Hellcat or Mustang Yellow label Saleen with a 5.0L Coyote motor with a twin-screw supercharger producing 730 clean, smooth HP and tell me that it's a gift from God.
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I think that new muscle car and old school muscle cars can cohabit just fine together. Our 09 Challenger R / T classic is going to be 10 years old this year. They have come along way in 10 years. I hope to sell off a couple of project cars and buy a slightly used Hellcat Challenger within the next year. I did a few tweaks to my wife's Challenger to add some old school flavor to it. I added 70 Challenger R / T grille script emblems, and reconfigured the headlights to 70 configuration, added 71 style side scoops, because they go with the stripes,and help take some of the thickness out of that area of the car. I added the pentastar on the lower right fender, and scat pack decals on the quarter windows, some quad exhaust tips finish out the back. I got rid of the ram center caps and nose badge, and went with the ones from the Mopar 10 Challenger, and added chrome trim to the front and rear to mimic a 70 Challenger, as well as chrome trim around the taillights like a 70. I white lettered the tires too. It gives the car an old school look. The 370 hp 5.7 runns like a good 440 did back in the day.
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Your mods do help quite a bit with what I've always had issue with on the late-model Challenger.
The proportions that made the original ones so damn good looking are sort of still there, but the newer car is HUGE in comparison and is too tall and "thick" in side view, as you say. Throws the proportions off.
The original is low and wide, yet cuts a thin path through the air; the newer one is much blockier, chunky even.
I'm sure a lot of that is due to safety and fed requirements, of course - but it's quite noticeable.
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This was done by an aftermarket company called LA West in Indiana. 2004 was regular cab and called Hemi GTX and 2005 was a 4 door and called GTextreme
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