The Camaro is getting cancelled again?

Good, start over and get it right this time !! I don't care for the Transformer look.

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Good, start over and get it right this time !! I don't care for the Transformer look.

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Yup, I agree with Hey-O. They missed the mark for sure. I sat in one of those Camaro's and couldn't get out of the freakin thing fast enough. Think it deserves to be put on the WTF pile along with the T- Bird, Prowler, Edsel and all the other failures. Retro Mustangs and Challengers the only ones to make bank because the engineers swung for the fences with tentative blessings from corporate cake eaters..

I sat in my friends 2019 Hellcat Redeye Challenger last night,and fired it up! I think I wet myself! The car is so awesome, I don't care what the other brands do,this Challenger has it all and then some. Truly an amazing car!

chargervert said:

I sat in my friends 2019 Hellcat Redeye Challenger last night,and fired it up! I think I wet myself! The car is so awesome, I don't care what the other brands do,this Challenger has it all and then some. Truly an amazing car!

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Pictures or it didn’t happen.

I will have to get some pictures next time I am at their place. It was raining out,so we were in the garage. It looked amazing in octane red. I am still ringing out my shorts!

Not sure what market they aimed them at. 10 year olds?

Dennis H said:

Pictures or it didn’t happen.

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And not of the pee stain.

It wasn't pee! Lol

It went away before & came back, no big deal

without the Government Motors Bail Outs,
from globalist's Bush & Owebowelmovement
propping up the, built in Canada/Canadian & UAW/Trade "Detroit",
they'd been gone a long time ago too

Just like MoPar & Fiat, some govt. bailout too, 100% paid off
kept them alive, viable & Chrysler Corp. would be gone too...

IMHFO other than the COPO's
I couldn't care any less about the new Camaro's

I personally dislike the new Camaro, haven't really liked them
past the gen 3's, just my preferences
IMHFO the new Camaro's are way too bulky looking, just not my taste
big *** hips like a Kardashian daughter, some people love them,
I'm not one of them...

too each their own, that doesn't mean I hate all Camaro's

of the new "muscle cars", factory hotrods,
I like the Newer Challenger's better,
even if it's a lot heavier, than the Camaro or Mustangs

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I've had Buick's, Pontiac's & Old's too

OK; don't get me wrong I love MoPar's 1st & foremost
But;
I've also had a bunch of Camaro's, in my past,
all mostly for racecars
cheap, light & parts readily available, almost everywhere,
(were cheap, not anymore)
I went 7's barely (1/4 mile) on an org. $10k budget back in the 80's
in my 68, back half car, it went 8's in street trim too, with 468cid/N2O
IMO you could never do that with a MoPar of any kind, on that budget
ever, not back then, believe me I tried,
even in an Altered almost a 1000#'s lighter
Yeah maybe with twice the budget, or if you already had all the parts
then maybe, GM (period) still cheaper, more affordable to build
than any other brand/make, as far as economics

when on a limited budget, you need to do what you need to do
my race dollar, was hard to come by, I wanted the most out of it

you have to do what you have to do, if you want to compete,
& play with people that are checkbook builders
& have 2-10 times the budgets, or just stay in the grandstands,
talk trash...

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I've had many different 67-68's gen 1's
a couple 71's S/G & S/C cars (a 76 RS & a 78 Z28 Daily drivers) gen 2's,
89 IROC T/S or N2O door-slammers gen 3's, went 7.0's at 180+

for the f-bodies I like the Trans Am's & Firehawks
had a few of them too, Pontiac going away was a real hit
I had liked them (Firebirds, Formula's, Trans Am's & Firehawks)
much better car than the Camaro's IMO,
had them as racecars too, way better aero, with a little more rear wing
went 6.69 @ 217 in a 92 540cid N2O T/A pro/tube chassis
with pretty much the same combo as the 89 T/S Camaro

my last 'competitive' car was a 92 Trans Am, tube chassis
re-bodied as a 97
I've had others too, but not as competitive or fast...

I like cars, it doesn't have to be exclusively a
Dodge or Plymouth, MoPar, Ram etc.
I'm an equal opportunity gearhead,
I just love MoPar's the most...

Ford kept the mustang a mustang, Chrysler kept the challenger a challenger. The charger was voted by the public to be a 4 door and was meant to replace the Intrepid as a family car. They still made the charger a two way car, family and hot family. If they do get rid of the Camaro and bring it back again, make it true to form.

Looked at a new ranger a few weeks ago

not really any bigger than my mom's 2003 quad cab Dakota

2.3L 4 cyl at 280 HP and 25 avg MPG

that's cooking for a 4 cyl

YY1 said:

Looked at a new ranger a few weeks ago

not really any bigger than my mom's 2003 quad cab Dakota

2.3L 4 cyl at 280 HP and 25 avg MPG

that's cooking for a 4 cyl

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I have a Friend who just bought one and it is a very nice truck with some get up and go for a turbo 4 banger. Has a 10 speed auto which to me is way over kill. As for Generic Motors and the "Cmaroooooos," etc., I have driven every muscle car from their Marquees both preset and past. Driven 1st and 2nd generation "Camrooooss" and those were fun at the time and great cars. But GM and all its has morphed into is nothing but "JUNK" IMHFO. Pontiac's, Olds, and Buicks were some really great muscle cars and very powerful but their demise has left a very big void so Ford and FCA have stepped up with probably the best of any at present. Never liked Generic Motors cars even as I was growing up because the seemed to all be cookie cutter in nature and built with interchangeable body parts so they basically were all Body by Fischer cars. The new offerings I have always referred to as Transformer cars and that is exactly what they are...cr8crshr/Tuck

camarots rustangs and mopars...they come and they go.
we should be thankful tho...we really should.
because if the fox body mustang hadnt come out in the early 80-s thru the mid 80-s,
there would be no high performance cars today.
very sad to say that,esp for a what 225 hp car? lol !
but,thats what got us kickstarted again....the rustangs.
everyone else was going to front wheel drive...
and the camarots of the next gen were big fat carcasses with sub par powerplants/drivetrains.
in fact they sucked So bad,you couldnt even order a 5 speed with the 350 motor,
because it Would break.
i wont even bother getting into the corvettes ( LMAO ) of that gen either.

thought it was going the electric power .

I can't help but wonder if the market for Challengers, Mustangs and Camaros is drying up. How many of us old geezers (and some young ones too) are willing to plunk down $40 large for a vehicle that is basically a two seater?

I'd love to, but would rather enjoy my classics. If I could, I would buy a Hellcat or 485HP Challenger. Super looking cars. But I already have my toys, so my regular driver cars are practical.

Just wondering out loud....

cr8crshr said:

I have a Friend who just bought one and it is a very nice truck with some get up and go for a turbo 4 banger. Has a 10 speed auto which to me is way over kill. ...cr8crshr/Tuck

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How much?

hsorman said:

I can't help but wonder if the market for Challengers, Mustangs and Camaros is drying up. How many of us old geezers (and some young ones too) are willing to plunk down $40 large for a vehicle that is basically a two seater?
I'd love to, but would rather enjoy my classics. If I could, I would buy a Hellcat or 485HP Challenger. Super looking cars. But I already have my toys, so my regular driver cars are practical.
Just wondering out loud....

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That is my point with the compact pickups - namely, a large part of the appeal of pony cars as well as compact pickups later on was the price.
Nowadays, manufacturers have been content to make less cars at higher profit margins, foregoing the entire economy low end of the business in the process - leaving junk blobs of jellybean looking plastic on wheels from Asian countries as the only choices for a lot of the working class.
It's a shame they've forgotten who buttered their bread for generations - the working class.

BeatersRus said:

camarots rustangs and mopars...they come and they go.
we should be thankful tho...we really should.
because if the fox body mustang hadnt come out in the early 80-s thru the mid 80-s,
there would be no high performance cars today.
very sad to say that,esp for a what 225 hp car? lol !
but,thats what got us kickstarted again....the rustangs.
everyone else was going to front wheel drive...
and the camarots of the next gen were big fat carcasses with sub par powerplants/drivetrains.
in fact they sucked So bad,you couldnt even order a 5 speed with the 350 motor,
because it Would break.
i wont even bother getting into the corvettes ( LMAO ) of that gen either.

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You make a valid point IMO. The 5.0 resurrected the whole thing in the mid-80's, when things were
pretty bleak performance-wise out there.
Next thing you know, we have Grand National this, IROC that, and *sigh* the little FWD turbo cars
from Ma Mopar (before you say anything, I bought a '85 GLH Turbo new off the lot; it was nothing
but problems from the get-go).
My choices in late '88 to replace the GLH were the 5.0 Mustang, the Camaro IROC and the Firebird Formula
with the 5.7 (I hated the gaudy Trans Am).
Test drove the heck out of a lot of cars and could never find one single Camaro or Firebird that didn't rattle
and creak like crazy brand new off the lot.
The 5.0's were a much tighter, quieter package (especially in the "LX Sport" trim; I similarly hated the gaudy
GT model with all the gingerbread and wagon wheels), so that's what I bought.
Single. Best. Car. I've. Ever. Owned.
Hate to admit it, but that thing was absolutely bulletproof. Raced it in SSGT class in SCCA the first two years
I owned it and it was my only daily driver/commuter car. I beat it mercilessly every time I got in it.
It never broke and I sold it almost 20 years later with 250k on it and not so much as a clutch replacement.
It's the car Mopar should have been building back then instead of those dainty little turbo things.

I do like competition to keep things interesting, so even though that article said it's a few years away I hope it doesn't happen. Not just for the workers building the cars in the Lansing Grand River Assembly plant in Michigan, (the same factory that built so many Oldmobile rockets and 442s so many years ago,) but we don't need FCA to use it as an excuse to axe the Challenger at the same time, saying that interest is waning.