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I know so many are in a heat wave now.

Most modern studies very conveniently tend to show rising temperatures starting in the late 1800's as a way of tying in the pollution of man and the industrial revolution to climate change. However, what these studies don't show is that the earth has been warming since the end of the "little ice age", which ended shortly before the age of industrialization started.

The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of cooling that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period.[1] Although it was not a true ice age, the term was introduced into scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939.[2] It has been conventionally defined as a period extending from the 16th to the 19th centuries,[3][4][5] but some experts prefer an alternative timespan from about 1300[6]to about 1850.[7][8][9]

The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals: one beginning about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, all separated by intervals of slight warming.[5] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered the timing and areas affected by the Little Ice Age suggested largely independent regional climate changes rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most, there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.[10]

Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, variations in Earth's orbit and axial tilt (orbital forcing), inherent variability in global climate, and decreases in the human population (for example from the Black Death and the colonization of the Americas).[11]



So, who can you believe? I did a quick google search of "are winters warmer or colder in america" & as you can see, these articles are all over the place. No need to read the stories, just the titles....


https://www.theatlantic.com/science...icans-may-never-notice-climate-change/583570/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sc...heading-for-mini-ice-age-within-15-years.html

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...e-colder-winters-global-warming-polar-vortex/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...ing-arctic-colder-winters-climate-change-spd/

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/warming-winters-across-united-states

https://www.upi.com/Science_News/20...will-be-colder-and-also-warmer/6301549572536/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevor...tead-of-warmer-via-polar-vortex/#373b69a5f84c

https://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/maps/heres-where-winters-are-warming-the-most
In other words...MAN don't know **** about Mother Nature, he jess thinks he does...
 
We in the USA are always first to act on everything. When the rest of the world starts to walk and never drives a car again, come talk to me............
 
Science has taught us a lot about mother nature and how it functions.

Given this and the measurements that have been made, the probability is high that human activities are a driver of present day climate. The little ice age and its termination are well studied and included in those probabilistic assessments.

I'll stick with the consensus view of science rather than the views of a few vocal climate deniers on this board.
 
Science has taught us a lot about mother nature and how it functions.

Given this and the measurements that have been made, the probability is high that human activities are a driver of present day climate. The little ice age and its termination are well studied and included in those probabilistic assessments.

I'll stick with the consensus view of science rather than the views of a few vocal climate deniers on this board.
Good for you. it's always nice to be the smartest person in the room.
 
Not denying climate change. Just disagreeing with the causes.

IMHO the climate has been naturally warming since about 11,000BC. WE as a species have become interested in the phenomenon since around 1976 or so. We only BECAME interested in it because a few clever politicians decided that big money could be made off of it. So, in 43 measly years we clever humans have decided that WE know everything there is to know about how the planet climate works. Riight. Give me a break. I personally discount just about 98% of what the government tells me about the climate, or anything else. They always have an agenda and it always involves my wallet.

Riddle me this Batman, if we know SOOO much about it, how is it that we have done absolutely nothing about it but spend tax payer money like water without changing it? That's right, it's NOT about changing it, it's about making money off of it. People with a working brain realize it is a non issue in that we as a species really have little to no chance of changing the planetary cycle and that the collective efforts of the worlds scientific bodies who are being PAID by the governments with OUR TAX dollars are toeing the party line so that they will CONTINUE to be paid by the governments who are making big money from it. AAnnnddddd cue the outraged scientists who shout but WE wouldn't do THAT! lol. Sure they wouldn't....
 
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Warm for these parts. Grass fire yesterday in South San Jose.
 
Even as a layman I realize that there are uncountable data points that intersect in the planet's climate life. Every little change, or even every part of it that does not change, makes a difference overall. A degree here or there higher or lower, lack of rain or an abundance of rain, or dryness. Animal migrations, volcanic activity, earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes. Nuclear detonations. Shifting weather patterns effects upon the landscapes and the changing landscapes effects on weather patterns. Space based events that have effects on the global weather, oceanic activities, melting ice volumes, large glacial activities like entire shelves of ice breaking away and melting...all have an effect on the climate. Mans activities do as well. There are thousands of other large and small things that count as well. MAN is NOT the primary driver of climate change. Wake up. Think for yourself people, don't just TRUST your government and their employees & contractors to give you the straight scoop. It is NOT in their best interest to be straight with you about ANYTHING. Seriously. Follow the money.
 
View attachment 818703 Warm for these parts. Grass fire yesterday in South San Jose.
I remember days in the early parts of MAY down in central SC where it was 100 degrees every day by 10am. Doesn't happen every year, nor even every 5 years. It's random. This year we have had an abundance of rain here in Vermont, not so other years. I'm not blaming mankind over it.
 
" Hello, my name is Jim, I'm a climate scientist. There is no relationship, other than incidental, between mankind's activities and climate change..." said no climate scientist EVER. Who wants to go to school forever to become a DR. in the subject and then put themselves out of work permanently? Exactly. Instead that guy Jim takes truckloads of grant money from the government and is going to find the results that will ensure the flow of grant money continues. It's exactly like military budgets. When the money runs out everything stops. They do their level best to make sure the money never runs out...
 
My point. Even the Sun has an 11 year cycle. It effects our climate. Just wait for it....eventually the warming cycle of the present ICE AGE will reverse course and begin many years of cooling on the way to the NEXT ICE AGE and your government will try to convince you that mankind is at fault for that as well...we have been conscious of our place on the planet for but a blink of time in the grand scheme of Earth. Yeah we are all that and a hot day too. NOT.
 
There is absolutely no data to support the Earth getting warmer or colder. Here’s what I mean.....all these “cores” that are drilled out can not tell us what the temperature was for a given period. There were no thermometers around 500 years ago or more. So was the temperature really hot during the Roman period? How about the Egyptian period? Perhaps the time of Buddha? No one knows, science of the Earths temperature is Best Guess, and it all tied to money nowadays!
 
To think we have that much influence is narcissistic.
 
I live in the Central Valley of California and I can remember 5-8 years ago during the summer months, we had 45 days of 100 degrees or more. Never cooled of below 80 at night and the cotton loved it, record year for it.

Fast forward to date, we’ve hit a 100 quite a few times, but no more than 8 days in a row. At night, a breeze comes and many times I said I need a jacket.

So in conclusion, the heat/cold is doing what it does whether or not man is here. Mother Nature will do as she pleases!
 
Deep core drilling can tell us what plant life was present, hence, the climate generally to sustain such life. Also how that climate changed over time, geologic time. Significant natural events leave fingerprints as well. As in very arid/very wet. Meteor/ comet strikes leave evidence..etc.. as an example, the land under the Antarctic ice and snow has the vegetation of a location in the tropics. Tells us that the landmass was not always in it's present location.
 
the views of a few vocal climate deniers on this board.

I see this piece of your post as a -tell- about where your heels are dug in.
The identifier--"climate deniers" is describing groups of folks to be in a box of like thinkers as if they are in lockstep -and is perceived to be a slam.
Are "climate deniers" considered to be feeble-minded or uninformed by you?
What is the current term that you would you use call yourself?---An openminded free thinker?
Categorizing opposing thoughts and giving a derogatory name to the thinkers somehow feels like a closed mind speaking.

When it comes to name-calling discussion stoppers we all know where that will spiral down to.
 
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Science has taught us a lot about mother nature and how it functions.

Given this and the measurements that have been made, the probability is high that human activities are a driver of present day climate. The little ice age and its termination are well studied and included in those probabilistic assessments.

I'll stick with the consensus view of science rather than the views of a few vocal climate deniers on this board.
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