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Well here we are again mother nature is trying to kill FL again!

Just got back from Palm Beach. Not too bad yet. Maybe ten footers.

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So I am going to be the cold-hearted bastard here but this bugs me. People choose to live in an area with lovely weather 350 days a year. The prices are high enough to keep the average American homeowner away so we live in more mundane areas away from the fun, sun, and ocean.

Problem is, once or twice or three times a year the coasts get blasted. Then all our tax dollars, relief organization dollars, insurance rate increase dollars go to fix their wonderful expensive beach property. Politicians make it a contest to see who can spend to most on devastated areas. Criminals loot from businesses and once the whole USA gets done paying the bills so the beach towns can rebuild it happens again next year.
 
Given the choice of natural disasters, I'll take hurricanes over tornadoes (yes I know hurricanes breed tornadoes but they are localized to the area of the hurricane), earthquakes, floods (again I realize flooding is associated with hurricanes but again generally localized and generally recedes fairly quickly) , rock slides, avalanches, pretty much you name it.

All those others have very short if any lead time- like minutes, even seconds.

Heck, I've had over a week to prepare for Dorian!
 
Video: Waves from Hurricane Dorian reach up to attics in Grand Bahama
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Family hiding in attic with waves coming threw the side of there roof!!!!
 
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Family hiding in attic with waves coming threw the side of there roof!!!!
Its the Bahamas would that not be a flat roof or near flat. Either way water coming in doesn't sound good.
 
If you choose to live in a high-risk area don't expect everyone else to bail you out over and over and over again.
 
If I lived at the bottom of a snowy mountain town that was wiped out by an avalanche about every five years I could see the comparison.

Hurricane Damage
The Congressional Budget Office estimates that 1.2 million Americans live in coastal areas that are at risk of substantial damage from hurricanes. CBO defines substantial damage as at least 5% of average income. Most of these densely populated areas lie less than 10 feet above sea level, according to the National Hurricane Center.

It also estimates that government costs for hurricane damage are $28 billion a year. Florida contributes 55% of that, and Texas and Louisiana add 13% and 9% respectively.

These average annual damage costs will increase to $39 billion by 2075. Almost half that gain will come from increased development along U.S. coastlines.
 
If I lived at the bottom of a snowy mountain town that was wiped out by an avalanche about every five years I could see the comparison.

Hurricane Damage
The Congressional Budget Office estimates that 1.2 million Americans live in coastal areas that are at risk of substantial damage from hurricanes. CBO defines substantial damage as at least 5% of average income. Most of these densely populated areas lie less than 10 feet above sea level, according to the National Hurricane Center.

It also estimates that government costs for hurricane damage are $28 billion a year. Florida contributes 55% of that, and Texas and Louisiana add 13% and 9% respectively.

These average annual damage costs will increase to $39 billion by 2075. Almost half that gain will come from increased development along U.S. coastlines.
Yeah that whole Global Warming sea level rise BS really has everyone worried...
 
Hope everyone is safe that this storm hits and damage is minimal. With that being said I have no problem paying for Natural Disaster relief for Americans. IMO that is what we should do. While not a bailout thinking though that we don't cover some of the costs even though we do not live near the devastation is very foolish. We do pay for it whether it be through a service we all use like electric, phone and cable, Products that we all use supply/demand fuel, generators and food or simply our home owners insurance policies. I am friendly with my insurance agent and our policy went up the following years after Hurricane Sandy. I called and asked why as I had no claims and she told me something like as an insurance company they can legally raise policy's once they pay a percentage of thier portfolio of investments.. Stay safe!!
 
So apparently there's sharks swimming by people's living room windows in the Bahamas!
My wife showed me a picture looks more like a big fish but it could be a shark ? Maybe it wouldn't surprise me any !!!!
 
So apparently there's sharks swimming by people's living room windows in the Bahamas!
My wife showed me a picture looks more like a big fish but it could be a shark ? Maybe it wouldn't surprise me any !!!!
That's just crazy….
 
Lookit, it's as always a matter of degrees on these things.
Everyone has an opinion on just how much people are responsible for their own lots in life as opposed to some catastrophic, highly unusual event occurring that nobody could have forseen that the government jumps in there and helps with.

Actually, after reading what I just wrote there, you can pretty much guess where I draw the line on the topic, eh?
A prime example for me is how hundreds of $Millions/$Billions get spent rebuilding New Orleans every time a hurricane wipes 'em out - even though entire chunks of that region are actually BELOW SEA LEVEL.
I mean, come on already - you don't want to risk losing everything in a flood, then don't live BELOW SEA LEVEL, right? Make sense?
If you choose to do so anyways, that's fine - but understand you're doing so at your own risk, not anybody else's - yet we go in there and spend away, time after time anyways, knowing damn well it's gonna happen again in the future.

Another example are the parts of California that fall victim to wildfire, followed by earthquake, followed by flash flooding - yet people spend unbelievable amounts of money to build there, time after time.
Again, it's a free country - but understand, the risk associated with choosing to live there is theirs, which means the cost associated with same is also theirs, nobody else's.
Examples go on and on...
Heavy snows and wildfires in the Rockies. Tornados in tornado alley. Incredible cold in Alaska.
You makes yer decisions and you takes yer chances.
 
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