If you go with an RTV keep the bead small, like 1/8"inch...ultra gray or black work good, gray just gets a little harder and can be tougher to get apart later. And the word 'clean' can't be stressed enough!
Ultra Grey and Superformance gasket (2585). I just did my pan last week.
http://www.superformanceproducts.com/catalog/2016SuperformanceCatalog_RacerNet.pdf
I stopped using gaskets. No problem so far.
Well, I created this lovely mess today. I torqued to FSM specs 15 Ft. Lbs. The rubbery gaskets that came with the MP windage tray squished out under a few bolts... No way will this F'ed up combo will seal.
This was my winning combo (hopefully).
Mask each side of the windage tray other than the gasket mating surfaces. Spray Loctite Hi Tack on each side of tray, stick gasket on each side. Let that setup and mate real well on the bench with the weight of the oil pan keeping everything making good contact. Put a small bead of Ultra Black about 1/8" on the block surface and oil pan rail, lay the windage tray and gasket sandwich on the block and place oil pan over top. I very gingerly tightened the pan bolts, just a little at a time going around the whole pan. I did NOT TORQUE to FSM specs. (It blew out my gasket last time). Just nice and snug.
Done! It looks great and I feel confident it will seal. Eliminating TWO coats of RTV was key! Use Loctite Hi Tack aerosol.
Those look like some real quality gaskets, haven't seen them around here, but I don't get around that much any more. does summit carry them?Did you use a stock pan, windage tray, and two of these gaskets?
First he is supposed to buy gaskets and then not use them. Question why?The gaskets are giving way letting the bolt heads dimple everything. Get a couple gaskets from Superformance like Hemitis posted or redo it with ultra grey and no gaskets.
Those look like some real quality gaskets, haven't seen them around here, but I don't get around that much any more. does summit carry them?
If he’s gonna use a gasket, those Superformance are the ones to use as they don’t compress like those FelPro gaskets do. The FelPros are garbage in my opinion. If he doesn’t want to use gaskets, Ultra-Grey by itself works great and you don’t have to deal with gaskets. As mentioned, it just comes apart easier with gaskets in there. There’s more than one way to skin a cat as the old saying goes. I’ve done it both ways.First he is supposed to buy gaskets and then not use them. Question why?
That's the one everyone recommends in one of the other engine threads. Be sure to get the one for your application. They make one for stock and one for stroker motors.The Summit tray with the built in gasket is the best way to get a leak free pan....
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...wTm0t-Bng2cUJI_9cAxj4vx6lqgfdB4oaAhT7EALw_wcB
I see those recommended frequently but I’ve never used one. I’d like to try one at some point.That's the one everyone recommends in one of the other engine threads. Be sure to get the one for your application. They make one for stock and one for stroker motors.