Bare with me here
I know this is going to extremes on analogies
tell them lets take it to the track
(or sticks/street for a beat run)
that usually settles most arguments whom is faster
had quite a few real 400+ hp street cars
weight can be a great equalizer or detriment
you can certainly usually tell another 100 hp difference
(sounds a bit different too)
especially at the track
until the latest turbo/under hood blower craze,
you could usually hear the difference
who's full of **** (way over estimating usually, rarely under est.) to begin with
now the stealthy sound of a turbo combo's, down right docile at times
(unless you hear the whistle/whine of boost or blow off valve)
even with north or 700+ Hp
I had a couple "street cars" in the 700 + hp range N/A, before N2O
68 RR 3520# 9.77 @ 135
& same combo 8.58 @ 156 on a combined 300 shot N2O
not really the best street cars, but vaguely tolerable
(strange what you can tolerate)
now for the street I like a bit more docile attitude
600 hp on the street is a brutal combo, especially if N/A
had quite a few Chevy's that made north of that # too
with 1/2 the $$$
amazing what strokers & big cubic inches, great flowing heads
properly matched gears & camshaft/torque converts & good tires can do
torque is what rules, especially on the street,
torque is what gets it moving &/or gears & traction
I've had dedicated drag cars (real racecars) with upwards of
1500 N/A - 2000 hp with N2O or Blower on alky/methanol
(never dyno'd any of them, the track & ever changing conditions, was my dyno)
totally different animal, 1800# - 2100#
they're nothing like an "alleged" so called 500 "advertised" hp street car
guys I raced "allegedly" had north of their estimated
2500 hp to 3000 hp or even more
I seemed to win quite a few, side by side races
go figure
when we all weighed a min. of 2650#'s,
all cars were within, give or take 100#-200#'s of each other
especially when I weighed 250#'s
& they usually weighed like 150#'s - 180#'s at max
I was frequently carrying another 70#'s usually
they could move around ballast far more than I could too
net hp, what can be put down to the pavement,
is a whole different deal, even than a dyno run
track conditions, relative air density/altitude, temp, cloud cover etc.
there's a lot of 500+ hp claims out there
many are BS, especially those that claim 'it's to the rear wheels'
not that it can't be done
some newer cars are truly amazing how they can do it,
392cid & 372cid-377cid making street-able 650-840 "real" hp
even some of the bigger 7 ltr combos, Drag packages from the factory
direct injection, blowers/turbos & computer control
&/or cylinder-head/camshaft & induction/exhaust system developments
dyno's are great for tuning purposes
what something does on a dyno
isn't necessarily what they will produce out in the real world
time slips will prove that
MPH is basically HP
ET is how well (your torque) the complete combo works,
how well it move quickly
enjoy, your results may very