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Aftermarket shifter choices?

Inland shifters came with early 68 model b bodies as far as I know. My 68 RR came stock with an inland. About mid 68 or so they went to what came in the 69s. I don't think they were Hurst. I swapped out the inland for a Hurst because I feel it's a better unit and it says Hurst on it.
Almost 99.9% sure Hurst didn’t make Inland shifters
 
Almost 99.9% sure Hurst didn’t make Inland shifters
Agree. Inland made Inland shifters. My Dad had a early 68 GTX that came with an Inland. Look pretty cool with the reverse lockout and all, but Hurst is a better unit.
 
If I Remember correctly, there was a guy named Ronnie that won a lot of 1/4 mile blasts with an Inland shifter.
Also the Ramchsargers.
 
If I Remember correctly, there was a guy named Ronnie that won a lot of 1/4 mile blasts with an Inland shifter.
Also the Ramchsargers.
Ronnie Sox of Sox and Martin (Buddy) fame shifted the Hemi Barracuda as fast as, or faster, than a TorqueFlite which could not be accomplished with an Inland equipped A-833 trans....too loose and sloppy....just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON
 
One thing I upgraded on my 18 spline 833 / hurst competition plus setup was to add the solid steel rod bushings and file the nylon ones in the round filing cabinet
 
Ronnie Sox of Sox and Martin (Buddy) fame shifted the Hemi Barracuda as fast as, or faster, than a TorqueFlite which could not be accomplished with an Inland equipped A-833 trans....too loose and sloppy....just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON
Yeah...they really made their shifters work for them. Probably lots of tricks to get the throw right and tight. Amazing what they acomplished. A guys gotta know nothing was stock. I noticed a big improvement when I switched to the Hurst over the Inland. They are cool though with the reverse lockout. Maybe they could be tricked out so a guy could really row the boat. Yeah...Hurst shifters
 
If I Remember correctly, there was a guy named Ronnie that won a lot of 1/4 mile blasts with an Inland shifter.
Also the Ramchsargers.
Mmmm.. pretty sure they were Hurst equipped. Didn't the cars have Hurst on them? I could be wrong. My wife tells me all the time. I don't know about the Ramchargers, but I believe the a833 came in late 64 or 65 because the t85 3 speeds couldnt handle the power of the max wedge. Most were autos. I don't know what they used for a shifter in the manuals. Would be interested to know.
 
That’s why I said I thought Ronnie used the Inland. I did read something about someone taking some teeth off the some of the gears, but don’t remember what shifter was used.
I read that pre 66 they used Hurst. 1966-part of 68 they used Inland.
I am working on my 67 now, had a hurst in it when we got it. Might get it finished make a few runs down the quarter mile, then go back to stock.
Driving around town, doing road trips I don’t think I really need a Hurst. But I will keep the Hurst for someone who buys the car in the future.
 
That’s why I said I thought Ronnie used the Inland. I did read something about someone taking some teeth off the some of the gears, but don’t remember what shifter was used.
I read that pre 66 they used Hurst. 1966-part of 68 they used Inland.
I am working on my 67 now, had a hurst in it when we got it. Might get it finished make a few runs down the quarter mile, then go back to stock.
Driving around town, doing road trips I don’t think I really need a Hurst. But I will keep the Hurst for someone who buys the car in the future.
Yeah the Inland is a neat unit and all. Hurst was always an upgrade. Probably why your car came with one. Good luck on your build out man. Mopars
 
Hurst was in the 64-65 cars, I changed my 64 Belvedere over from auto to the 4 speed in 1968. Mine was a 318 poly auto, trans came out of a 64-4 door fury, 361 out of a 62.
 
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Hurst was in the 64-65 cars, I changed my 64 Belvedere over from auto to the 4 speed in 1968. Mine was a 318 poly auto, trans came out of a 4 door fury, 361 out of a 62.
I knew somebody knew. Thanks man. Iconic hot rod speed equipment. Hurst.
 
Inland Tool Manufacturing made the infamous toilet flusher shifter. It wasn't a precise shifter which is why Chrysler made the change, since it was marketing track day cars.
 
Inland Tool Manufacturing made the infamous toilet flusher shifter. It wasn't a precise shifter which is why Chrysler made the change, since it was marketing track day cars.
Yeah. Not precise is a good way to describe it. Not performance oriented is another. Toilet flusher ....no sugar on that one. I like it. The reverse lockout is cool though. Mopars
 
That’s why I said I thought Ronnie used the Inland. I did read something about someone taking some teeth off the some of the gears, but don’t remember what shifter was used.
I read that pre 66 they used Hurst. 1966-part of 68 they used Inland.
I am working on my 67 now, had a hurst in it when we got it. Might get it finished make a few runs down the quarter mile, then go back to stock.
Driving around town, doing road trips I don’t think I really need a Hurst. But I will keep the Hurst for someone who buys the car in the future.

The old hot rodders trick was to remove every other tooth on the synchronizer's sliding sleeve and every other tooth on the synchronizer gear on the main shaft and the you can shift WITHOUT using the clutch....BUT...you had to pull the shifter hard and hang on to it because it could jump out of gear. The Inland shifter was incapable of such abuse. BTW....the gears are in constant contact with each other's compliment and you cannot remove gear teeth.....its the synchronizers thst were modified. The GM M-22 "rock crusher" box was a good candidate for these modifications....a great transmission. Just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON
 
Yeah. Not precise is a good way to describe it. Not performance oriented is another. Toilet flusher ....no sugar on that one. I like it. The reverse lockout is cool though. Mopars
The reverse lockout was definitely a cool feature. Inland also made shifters for Muncie, so GM was blessed too.
 
Is there a smooth, tight, short throw shifter for A833 4 speed in a 69 RR, available?
(Non console)
If your bushings in the levers under the floor are wore out, then the neutral gate will be sloppy and most guys complain about the two-three shift hanging up and lots of missed shifts. In neutral, the shifter, at 8 inches from the pivot could be wobbling around at say .5 to .8 inch . You have to fix this first.
If your shifter is mounted in a rubber vibration isolator that has shrunk over the years, that will add to the slop.
The external levers at the trans like to work loose, and if run that way, they will wreck the flats on the softer studs. Those retaining nuts are special, in that they have a serrated flange on them. Once the flats are rounded the nuts will never again stay tight and the neutral gate will wander around which is frustrating as heck. The only cure I know of is loc-tite Red.
The forks inside can wear also if the trans has a history of jumping out of gear, and you have been trying to hold it in with the stick..... or if you drive around with your hand on the shifter. However, these are on the trans side of the detent and do not contribute to the slop of the stick in neutral.

As to a short-throw shifter; there are only three ways to achieve this and practically only one; which is to shorten the stinking handle. But when you do that, no matter how you do it; it's gonna take more power to make the shift, and the higher you spin the engine, the more power it's gonna take.
The best way is to just buy a decent hi-perf short-stick kit, with everything in it. The one I recommend, is the one I bought in about 1971 to install in my 70Swinger 340, which already had a fairly nice factory Hurst.
It's a Mr.Gasket Bang! shifter
and the stick is about 8 inches tall. For this last install, I made all my own thick-wall rods out of seamless tubing, with an internal diameter that could be threaded to 3/8. To combat the power issue, I moved that shifter back between the buckets and raised it up high enough so that the upper attaching bolt could be installed from inside the car. That shifter is 48 years old and has been in near continuous use since 1971, following me from one Mopar to the next. With it, I haven't missed a shift since 2004.

This trick will only marginally increase the speed of the shift, which is actually controlled by the ability of the brass synchronizer rings to brake the gears. If you put thick gear oil in there or IMO, synthetic oil, this will really kill the brass ring's performance. Some guys report success with synthetic, but I had my trans down three times in one week, to mod it for synthetic, with zero improvement. But all those improvements, with straight ATF, made it shift like lightning.
If you install straight ATF, the rings CAN (not WILL) really bite. I have mercy on my cluster pin, and run 50/50 ATF/ 80-90EP oil.
If you decide to go inside the trans, you might as well chuck the gears in a lathe,and polish (deglaze) the cones. I use 120Grit emery cloth and bias the roughness towards the upshifting cuz I don't care how long it takes to downshift.
And to shift at 6000 plus, should you chose to, you will likely have to street-slick-shift at least second and third gears. With this done, you will be able to shift faster than the brass can,at all times, and they'll just be along for the ride. I skipped slick-shifting first and fourth because I have never needed to bang it into low, and going into 4th,with 3.55s, the car would be going between 100 mph to 113, and I never go there.
It's a lotta work to cut those parts out, so I quit with just second and third. Now I see Brewers (I think) has them ready-made.
A bonus with the hi rear mount, is that it stays clean; since I installed it in 2004, it's never had to be cleaned.
Yeah, so
Happy HotRodding
 
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I have an old Super Shifter in my GTS. Its pretty incredible. The shift rods are straight, and like 5/8" in diamerter. Very solid short throw shifts. Not sure if they were the same for B bodies, and if you can even find them.
 
hurst still makes a super shifter, its called super shifter II. has a handle to lock out reverse. the original super shifter you had to push down on the shifter knob to get it into reverse I believe. a buddy of mine had one in his dart and it was the difference between day and night over my competition plus in my dart.
 
hurst still makes a super shifter, its called super shifter II. has a handle to lock out reverse. the original super shifter you had to push down on the shifter knob to get it into reverse I believe. a buddy of mine had one in his dart and it was the difference between day and night over my competition plus in my dart.

I remember the little red "tee" handle that came out on the SS II and thinking I'm lucky to have gotten mine before the "upgrade" because I still can use my factory original console
 
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