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Engine seized ?

The converter has a slot on the end of the snout that engages two tangs that drive the pump. If the converter isn't in the proper place, the body of the converter snout pushes on the pump gears instead of the pump tangs being in the slot. As the trans is tightened to the block, the converter crushes the inner gear of the pump.
Ahh, i see. Thank you.
 
Maybe obvious but I wouldn't use the starter until you can turn engine by hand.
 
The converter has a slot on the end of the snout that engages two tangs that drive the pump. If the converter isn't in the proper place, the body of the converter snout pushes on the pump gears instead of the pump tangs being in the slot. As the trans is tightened to the block, the converter crushes the inner gear of the pump.
Also if I remember correctly you have to use the engine to transmission bolts to snug the transmission up to the block. I put an engine in my 64 Polara about 40 years ago and didn’t have the converter in all the way. I remember being nervous about the engine hanging above me on the chain fall as I repositioned the converter. The good thing is that once you make that mistake once you never make it again.
 
Yep, you're right. Been there/done that, only do it once. And yep, if it's wrong, you will have to use the bolts to draw the trans up tight. If it's right, trans will slid on the dowels right up flush.
 
Yep, you're right. Been there/done that, only do it once. And yep, if it's wrong, you will have to use the bolts to draw the trans up tight. If it's right, trans will slid on the dowels right up flush.
Good insight. Thanks
 
Finally had a warm day off. I pulled the trans. It seems ok. I Took the belts & crank pulley off. I can put a socket on the crank bolt and get almost one full revolution forward & in reverse. Then it feels like solid metal against metal. Connecting rod bolt hitting ???
 
With almost one revolution, sounds like something fell into one of the cylinders because I don't see how a valve hitting would hit on one revolution.
I also can't see how a connecting rod would hit on a standard stroke stock engine, doesn't make sense.
You could try and put a solid wire or tube into each cylinder through the plug hole and perhaps determine which one has the obstruction.
You should see a couple cylinders where the indicator rises and falls fully. The culprit should be nearly fully risen when the dead stop occurs.
Then pull that head.
Otherwise just yank them both, it's not that much effort.
Thinking more about it...
You may want to try pulling the rocker shafts and see if you have a stuck valve.
 
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or something dropped down the carb
pull the rockers and check
dropped valve
or
 
If i determine something is in one of the cylinders, wouldnt it be easier to pull the intake & try to fish it out with a magnet ?
 
I like the idea of checking for a stuck valve. That is easy and quick just by pulling the valve covers and loosening the rocker shaft. If that's not it, then I agree Don's method to determine the culprit.

If you find that a nut or something dropped into the cylinder, it may be very hard to fish it out. Possible, but not easy. Plus, you will need to ensure you don't nick the valve or the seat.
 
I have a pencil like tool with magnet permanently attached. If you can figure out which 2 cylinders are at TDC when it stops turning maybe fish out spark plug hole back off a little so piece isn't jammed against the head. If you pick it up with magnet and it doesn't come out plug hole to big, go through intake valve then put head if it doesn't come out.
 
I have a pencil like tool with magnet permanently attached. If you can figure out which 2 cylinders are at TDC when it stops turning maybe fish out spark plug hole back off a little so piece isn't jammed against the head. If you pick it up with magnet and it doesn't come out plug hole to big, go through intake valve then put head if it doesn't come out.
Thats what i was thinking. Thanks Fran
 
To figure out which cylinder to look in, slowly turn the engine in the proper rotation direction,till it locks, then pull the distributor cap. Rotor will point at the cylinder to fire. However! ...two cylinders will be near tdc, you will need to look at both . The matching cylinders are five apart, so 18436572, 1 and 6, 8 and 5, 4 and 7, 3 and 2, will be at tdc at the same time, one ready to fire, one ready to begin intake stroke. Find which is ready to fire and check both cylinders.
 
I have had a problem with a rod bolt hitting the camshaft. BUT... It was a long rod combo with a very aggressive roller cam with a very tight lobe center, that didn't have the necessary small base circle. Unless you have a rod nut that is completely loose, at the wrong end of the bolt, the chances of rod bolt interference are almost nill.
You did tighten all your rod bolts, right? Lol.
 
To figure out which cylinder to look in, slowly turn the engine in the proper rotation direction,till it locks, then pull the distributor cap. Rotor will point at the cylinder to fire. However! ...two cylinders will be near tdc, you will need to look at both . The matching cylinders are five apart, so 18436572, 1 and 6, 8 and 5, 4 and 7, 3 and 2, will be at tdc at the same time, one ready to fire, one ready to begin intake stroke. Find which is ready to fire and check both cylinders.
Thanks. Thats pretty smart. But my distributor & intermediate shaft are currently out.
 
Okay, pull the plugs, get the engine turned to where it is close to the lockup point, and put a cotton ball in each plug hole. Then crank the motor the rest of the way. The cotton balls will blow out of the two cylinders coming to tdc.
Don't forget to take the others out.
 
Okay, pull the plugs, get the engine turned to where it is close to the lockup point, and put a cotton ball in each plug hole. Then crank the motor the rest of the way. The cotton balls will blow out of the two cylinders coming to tdc.
Don't forget to take the others out.
Plugs are out. I just got off the phone with a buddy. Hes bringing a camera over, hopefully tomorrow. Thank you for your insight.
 
Look on the bright side of all this: you didn't just use the starter to crank this thing over and really hurt it!

What you have is a pain in the arse, but hopefully will be something minor you can fix easily. Please keep us posted!

Hawk
 
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