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She should rot in jail.

Well just think of all the mental ill people and those they took with them that could have been saved if society gave a dam. Think about it slow and hard. Did the system fail one person or two. The one no one any longer has to worry about and the others problems have only begun. Prison solves not a dam thing for the mentally ill. Do your time and out the door approach serves no one.
Exactly. Mentally ill are often as not turned out into the streets as there is a shortage of facilities to house and care for them.
Id think the young mans family are consumed with hatred for this girlfriend and id also think that maybe there having guilt they didn't realize the full scope of how depressed their loved one was.
Id be off the deep end to lose a child that way, my sympathy's are with them
 
I’m with ya on yelling fire in a theater, but his parents and himself are to blame. She’s not to blame cause of her mental issues.

Sad and tragic all around, but imo, she should not have been held accountable.

So the next time someone tells ya to **** off and die, should they be held responsible for your death? No!

That’s what I was referring to. I hope ya see the difference.
 
I see the difference. I get real tired of those that think mental illness is a joke and those that suffer from them should just suck it up and get on with life. It doesn't work that way. That doesn't mean there should be no punishment for a committed crime even if mentally unstable. But why the heck are we putting these people back out on the street after serving their time without any help with their illness. Now that is just stupid but it is the way the system works.
 
So no responsibility on him or his parents? No right to free speech? These are young men/women, not kids, and therefore should be treated as so.

So if I were to tell someone, take s walk off a short pier, they do, they die, am I responsible for that death? Some common sense goes a long way.
I’m with ya on yelling fire in a theater, but his parents and himself are to blame. She’s not to blame cause of her mental issues.

Sad and tragic all around, but imo, she should not have been held accountable.

So the next time someone tells ya to **** off and die, should they be held responsible for your death? No!

That’s what I was referring to. I hope ya see the difference.
I am pretty close to this tragic event. Apparently you have no idea as to what was the cause and effect. If your son/brother/wife/GF was at the end of that pier depressed and ready to jump and you were there edging them on to jump and kept at it and when they said they can't do it and you yelled at them telling them to jump and they did you shouldn't be held accountable? I think not.
 
Have to be pre disposed to mental illness to take your own life based on encouragement from another. Everything is someone else’s fault.
 
A little story for you all to think about.
My wife is a clinical therapist. My nephew (my brothers son)who is in his 30s struggles with severe depression and is bipolar. My brother and his wife struggle themselves to understand this. My wife however is trained and is very aware of such problems.
My nephew started talking nonsense that no one else picked up on it except my wife. She recognized what was going on. With her connections she called the proper authorities. My brother and his wife were at first upset at my wife until everything came to light. My nephew was about to commit suicide. Thanks to my wife's quick thinking and experience our nephew is now doing well years later and is in a much better state of mind. My brother and his wife praise and thank my wife constantly for being able to recognize what was going on.
Now if that scumbag girl was chirping in his ear, do you think my nephew would be around today? Answer that.
 
This generation has to get a grip. We were getting drafted left and right and had real ******* problems back in the day. If we had the lottery draft now, half the 18 YO’s would be jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.
 
This generation has to get a grip. We were getting drafted left and right and had real ******* problems back in the day. If we had the lottery draft now, half the 18 YO’s would be jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.
I agree but the mental illness also runs rampant among older people. We've had a few friends in their 30s 40s and 50s That have attempted or actually succeeded in suicide. It's not just the young ones.
 
Mental health is a big issue that many don't see. Alabama closed most all facilities of this type some years ago, when they needed to fund more. To top it off, it was done while we had a hypocrite doctor as governor.

Typical story of America... Close the mental health facilities to save money, then wonder why we have all of the shootings???
 
I can take a walk off a short pier and not die... I know how to swim...
So does he LOL
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but his parents and himself are to blame. She’s not to blame cause of her mental issues.

Did the parents even know he wanted to kill himself though? If they DID know he was depressed they should have gotten him help way before he decided to commit suicide.

As other members said here, she was telling him to go on with killing himself. No "normal" person in a relationship does that. She SHOULD have contacted his parents, the police, hell even a mental psychiatrist.
 
then wonder why we have all of the shootings???

Exactly right, tell me somethin' and I'm not tryin' to change the subject but how does a 10 year old get a gun in his backpack, and start shooting people in his school. (Did you hear that story, I THINK it was in Mexico)
 
A little story for you all to think about.
My wife is a clinical therapist. My nephew (my brothers son)who is in his 30s struggles with severe depression and is bipolar. My brother and his wife struggle themselves to understand this. My wife however is trained and is very aware of such problems.
My nephew started talking nonsense that no one else picked up on it except my wife. She recognized what was going on. With her connections she called the proper authorities. My brother and his wife were at first upset at my wife until everything came to light. My nephew was about to commit suicide. Thanks to my wife's quick thinking and experience our nephew is now doing well years later and is in a much better state of mind. My brother and his wife praise and thank my wife constantly for being able to recognize what was going on.
Now if that scumbag girl was chirping in his ear, do you think my nephew would be around today? Answer that.
A little story for you all to think about.
My wife is a clinical therapist. My nephew (my brothers son)who is in his 30s struggles with severe depression and is bipolar. My brother and his wife struggle themselves to understand this. My wife however is trained and is very aware of such problems.
My nephew started talking nonsense that no one else picked up on it except my wife. She recognized what was going on. With her connections she called the proper authorities. My brother and his wife were at first upset at my wife until everything came to light. My nephew was about to commit suicide. Thanks to my wife's quick thinking and experience our nephew is now doing well years later and is in a much better state of mind. My brother and his wife praise and thank my wife constantly for being able to recognize what was going on.
Now if that scumbag girl was chirping in his ear, do you think my nephew would be around today? Answer that.
Some times we can be to close to the problem and there are times when they will just out right lie to you. It sad when you have to monitor an adult 24/7.
 
Did the parents even know he wanted to kill himself though? If they DID know he was depressed they should have gotten him help way before he decided to commit suicide.

As other members said here, she was telling him to go on with killing himself. No "normal" person in a relationship does that. She SHOULD have contacted his parents, the police, hell even a mental psychiatrist.
Not as easy as you would think. Try it some time.
 
Sounds like you have your head screwed on right. I applaud your post.

Thanks Jerry. I was technically born an adult, seriously. I been hanging around with adults and classic cars for quite awhile. Probably 10 years or more. People used to call me a "little man" when I was younger.
 
Typical story of America... Close the mental health facilities to save money, then wonder why we have all of the shootings???
Do you remember Parkland, FL ? Cops were called thirty nine times to the Cruz residence. The FBI was notified. They did NOTHING. You know the rest of the story. It was a failure of law enforcement, and Broward county sheriff Scott Israel. Sometimes parents refuse to accept their kids could do heinous things. Like the Columbine shooters, parents were clueless to what those two were planning. Help is there. Do you notice who is put on behavior modification drugs ? It's boys. Teachers do not know how to handle young boys. They take the easy way out, and force their parents to put them on these drugs. Drug companies make a ton of money, and damage young boys. Who knows what this crap does to mental/emotional stability. Combine that with bullying, and you have a big charge of C4 ready to detonate.
 
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Do you remember Parkland, FL ? Cops were called thirty nine times to the Cruz residence. The FBI was notified. They did NOTHING. You know the rest of the story. It was a failure of law enforcement, and Broward county sheriff.Scott Israel. Sometimes parents refuse to accept their kids could do heinous things. Like the Columbine shooters, parents were clueless to what those two were planning. Help is there.
Only after its to late and everyone is pointing fingers. Then there is plenty of unsolicited worthless help. Talk is cheap.
 
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