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What is needed for rear defrost setup?

It's OK Bob... like everything else, the parts catalogs are far from perfect too, just like the schematics... the nameplate for the switch does specifically call out Charger though, so it obviously goes with something... or that's in error too? Nothing surprises me with these 1st Gen's anymore.... Before the fact/After the fact/ Supplements to the facts... just get the paper out there fella's, we have cars to sell. :D

Maybe (440 4 speed) will come up with something, that would be cool.... not to mention a first if it's true.
Obviously Dodge considered the rear defogger because everything is there for it including the schematics... it just never made it to the vehicle apparently. None that you or I have ever seen anyway.
 
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It would be the same rarity as seeing a charger from Saskatchewan with A/C.. all about where you're from
 
So how does a fan blowing cold air from trunk defrost? Must been sleeping im class that day
 
So how does a fan blowing cold air from trunk defrost? Must been sleeping im class that day
On the '73 I have the air intake is one of the speaker cutouts in the package tray, so the air comes from the passenger compartment. I would imagine they are all the same.
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but did you look at the contents of the package? It has a inlet and outlet grille for one. How can that possibly be the same as Coronet and Belvedere ... Charger has no package tray. The parts can't possibly be the same the mounting area is different. Look at the parts list. Yes, the book is vague sometimes but while it doesn't say "except Charger" it doesn't say "fastback" either.
 
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On the '73 I have the air intake is one of the speaker cutouts in the package tray, so the air comes from the passenger compartment. I would imagine they are all the same.

There is rear def motor for sale on ebay
71 chry
You are missing the point
The 66-67 Chargers have no package tray
Just because later Chargers have rear defrosters doesnt mean the 66-67 can have them
A defroster would have to be specific to the 66-67s for them to fit
 
Look at the parts list. Yes, the book is vague sometimes but while it doesn't say "except Charger" it doesn't say "fastback" either.

Not to beat a dead horse... but if you look at the parts list, Chargers didn't come with a heater box either.:p:p:p
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Who loves ya Bobby!
 
You are missing the point
The 66-67 Chargers have no package tray
Just because later Chargers have rear defrosters doesnt mean the 66-67 can have them
A defroster would have to be specific to the 66-67s for them to fit
I was replying to Earnie. But, yes, I gathered that '66-'67 Chargers don't have a package tray. I shouldn't have inserted myself into this thread but I wanted info on the vent thru system and that info is hard to come by. My apologies, and thank you for your patience.
Without a package tray it looks like '66-'67 Chargers could not have a rear defrost system other than a vent thru set up.
 
Ok..the horse isn't quite dead yet, so I figured I'd send this into the mix. On the rear of the passenger side panel there is molding line that is a call out for a rear defroster unit. So there appears as if at one point there was a plan to have one...but....
 
Ok..the horse isn't quite dead yet, so I figured I'd send this into the mix. On the rear of the passenger side panel there is molding line that is a call out for a rear defroster unit. So there appears as if at one point there was a plan to have one...but....

Ayuh... Cutouts are there, and the schematic is there, so we have to assume that there was a plan at one point at least. Did it ever happen... I'd love to see one but never have. I wonder, would it be a standard fan style defogger, or one of those heated units.

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Meanwhile... back at Bob's place :BangHead:
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OMG... this chit don't stop.. A couple of things here, if you own a first gen, and had the panel off , the one with the molded cut out. There really is no room for a fan housing, fan wheel, motor, etc. I do not see any pre-stamped indicators on the inside sheet metal, indicating a mounting point, and would guess the only way to make it work, would be trunk mounted, with hose going to that location. With that said it would not share the same part number as package tray model. Then, even if they had followed thru with producing defrost units for the first gen, with the record low sales in 67, you would almost think, if they actually exist, they would be easy to find...

Again, what are we discussing, a performance part...... No....is it really needed...No, would it raise the price of a first gen......No
 
What horse? G.V. You are correct that it is not a performance part.There were about 800 new 67 Chargers shipped to Canada. There would be a very remote possibility of one having a defogger. But you never know what is out in the wilderness.
The last time I saw the Charger was in 2001. The owner is still alive and when he gets back to Canada I will find out if he still has the car.
I can also get signatures of other people that have seen it. It is unique, rarer than my friends panther pink/white painted roof 1970 Superbee which there were 3 made.
I really enjoy reading different opinions.
 
Had a moment to pull a service manual off the shelf, it has been awhile. Well the first thing that caught my eye, is the defrost motor assembly on the the body wiring diagram, states defrost motor(Mopar only)....that should make you scratch your head. The instrument wiring diagram, at the bottom left, is a rectangular dotted diagram(dotted , added to the original drawing), listed defrost switch wiring,
If you paid attention to wire numbers, C11 and C12 are high and low speeds, they are fed by C10, which is the main power to said switch. there was no factory feed for said circut, power was picked up on the fuse side with a spade connector, this screams DEALER INSTALLED ONLY. If it was a factory thing, a power pig tail would have been supplied, to assist line workers during the build.

I do not doubt someone has installed a defroster in a first gen, I would be a little skeptical to assume it factory installed.
 
It could have been have been dealer installed, as I mentioned in post #3. We will find out more later. It seems to me that the blower motor was mounted on the passenger side trunk floor. The last time I had a real look at it was in the 1990`s.
 
Had a moment to pull a service manual off the shelf, it has been awhile. Well the first thing that caught my eye, is the defrost motor assembly on the the body wiring diagram, states defrost motor(Mopar only)....that should make you scratch your head. The instrument wiring diagram, at the bottom left, is a rectangular dotted diagram(dotted , added to the original drawing), listed defrost switch wiring,
If you paid attention to wire numbers, C11 and C12 are high and low speeds, they are fed by C10, which is the main power to said switch. there was no factory feed for said circut, power was picked up on the fuse side with a spade connector, this screams DEALER INSTALLED ONLY. If it was a factory thing, a power pig tail would have been supplied, to assist line workers during the build.

I do not doubt someone has installed a defroster in a first gen, I would be a little skeptical to assume it factory installed.

The dotted line is there to indicate that the schematic is also part of the Body wiring diagram on another page, which it is.
Circuit C10 takes off at the same fuse point as the A/C wiring circuit C1A.
C11 and C12 shown on the body drawing are High and Low speed. C12 uses a piece of Resistance wire to slow the motor.
All of the rear defogger motor drawings say Mopar Only regardless of the model.
Option code would have been 418
 
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I dug through the pile of parts for my Charger today to see what I had for clues of any kind.
There is only one Cutout for the rear defogger and that's on the Right Rear Panel, between the fender well and the fold down truck access panel. A piss poor design at best in my opinion.
I also looked at my fuse block, but unfortunately my car is not an A/C car so that particular Fuse Slot is empty. Apparently, only A/C cars had the extra fuse since one of the two circuit wires for the A/C on a Charger comes off that fuse. Either way, since it's not an A/C wiring harness, any wiring dedicated to an A/C or a Defogger will not be present. Oh well...
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