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Horse Power

al383

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How to figure out what my horsepower is. I have a stroked 528. What I know 1970 bored.040, deck height 10.717, Stroke 4.375, Piston .006 in the hole, -30cc dish 10.4.1, Edelbrock RPM Heads. Milled to 72cc I 2.14,210cc E1.810 70cc Lift on cam .549 intake exhaust.544 this is a roller engine.
 
With this information you'll get a ballpark number, absolute numbers are gonna cost ya some Dyno time
 
^ Or a trip to a scale, then the track.
And some good recordkeeping at the track making changes to tune and testing in similar weather conditions. Testing on a chassis dyno might end up being a better way to go as far as time spent.
 
Just wondering....... why do you need to know?

Might help determining how close you need to be to the real number.

To help get a realistic number......
-heads ported or not?
-hyd or solid roller cam?
-more complete cam specs?
-what rocker ratio?
-intake manifold and carb?
-headers or not?
-if yes, what size?

Using the info you provided in the first post......
The motor is 522.5ci(4.360 x 4.375).
I also get the same CR (10.4), depending on the gasket bore and thickness.
 
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Just wondering....... why do you need to know?

Might help determining how close you need to be to the real number.

To help get a realistic number......
-heads ported or not?
-hyd or solid roller cam?
-more complete cam specs?
-what rocker ratio?
-intake manifold and carb?
-headers or not?
-if yes, what size?

Using the info you provided in the first post......
The motor is 522.5ci(4.360 x 4.375).
I also get the same CR (10.4), depending on the gasket bore and thickness.
heads ported,hyd roller cam 6 pack 1300 for carbs,tti 1&7/8
 
Just wondering....... why do you need to know?

Might help determining how close you need to be to the real number.

To help get a realistic number......
-heads ported or not?
-hyd or solid roller cam?
-more complete cam specs?
-what rocker ratio?
-intake manifold and carb?
-headers or not?
-if yes, what size?

Using the info you provided in the first post......
The motor is 522.5ci(4.360 x 4.375).
I also get the same CR (10.4), depending on the gasket bore and thickness.
 
I have a question that's irrelevant to your 'guess my HP' questions, but do you know how much was milled off of your Edelbrock RPM heads to achieve the 72cc chambers, and were they the 84cc models to start with?
Thanks
 
I have a question that's irrelevant to your 'guess my HP' questions, but do you know how much was milled off of your Edelbrock RPM heads to achieve the 72cc chambers, and were they the 84cc models to start with?
Thanks
Don't know
 
Ballpark?
665-675tq/590-610hp

A lot would come down to how much porting was done/what the heads flow, and whether or not the motor reached peak hp before the lifters started acting up.
It would likely have to peak in the 5700-6000 range to get it to be over 600hp...... and the 3” header collectors and hyd lifters may or may not allow that to happen.

The Tq should pretty easily make it over 650ft/lbs.
 
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Ballpark?
665-675tq/590-610hp

A lot would come down to how much porting was done/what the heads flow, and whether or not the motor reached peak hp before the lifters started acting up.
It would likely have to peak in the 5700-6000 range to get it to be over 600hp...... and the 3” header collectors and hyd lifters may or may not allow that to happen.

The Tq should pretty easily make it over 650ft/lbs.
thanks, Iwas told from 600-650
 
It’s on YouTube...... a friend sent me a link.

He was there as well...... I think you and he spoke a bit.
He had the orange T/A challenger.

The guy who posted the video has tons of that stuff on line.
 
yes that t/a is fast, as you can see i have some issues with wheel hop,have to find the right for snubber
 
As you discovered, it can be a challenge to get a street car with a stick to work well at the track.

No substitute for testing and practice.

It can take a lot of runs to get a combo like that sorted out.

And don’t take this the wrong way...... but that track outing is the poster child for why “the track is my dyno” argument doesn’t really work at all in many cases.

What your motor would make on the dyno has almost zero correlation to what your car ran at the track.

Unprepared manual trans street cars almost always show way way less power from the calculators than what the motors actually make.

Have you seen the videos?
 
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Unprepared manual trans street cars almost always show way way less power from the calculators than what the motors actually make.

Why do you think that is?
 
To me it’s obvious when you watch a car like that.
It’s harder to get the car to a point where you can side step the clutch on the line at around 5k and have that yield a positive result....... one that rivals what a car with an auto and a good converter would put up for a number.
Then, there are 3 shifts to make going down the track....... at high rpm, with a trans that’s often set up less than optimally for power shifting.
And then on top of that, there is a certain amount of skill involved to quickly and efficiently making those 3 shifts....... and it seems that not everyone can do it like Ronnie Sox.

So, the auto car is more or less fool proof.
Stick it in “D” for drag........ mash the throttle and enjoy the ride.

I’m not saying the streeter stick car can’t run the number it “should”...... I’m just saying my observations are that they rarely ever do.

Again, not picking on Al here....... but so far at least, his car falls right into that category(for all 3 of the reasons I mentioned).

Of the runs of his car I’ve seen(and I’m acknowledging there may have been other trips to the track where better results were achieved. I’m basing this off about 1/2 a dozen passes on one day)..... assuming a race weight of around 4000lbs, using the Moroso calculator, the best one I saw shows a number about 150hp lower than 10% off what I’d expect to see for STP power on an engine dyno for his motor combo.

The on track performance is a reflection of the complete package....... not just the engine output.

In this particular application, compared to how the car was being run on the video I saw, there is no doubt in my mind that if you swapped the 4 speed for a nice 727 and a good 9.5” converter the numbers would make it look like the motor picked up 100hp+.
 
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