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Robert Schaad

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1973 Dodge Charger with 340 6 pack does not exist. Really? I sat in the Dodge Dealership with a dream car in mind. I talked to sales man but was told I could not get a 6 pack that year. I was upset and said thank you. I stood up and was leaving. The sales man said wait. I sat there and waited as he called the factory and found that they had a 340 6 pack available and he said they would put it into the car and put a Z in the 5th digit of the VIN showing that the engine was a special order engine. He told me that you would have to look at the paperwork to see what engine was put in it. I ordered it, but later i cancelled the order. But i have some members on this site that must have been sitting in the empty chair beside me that said everything i have said was a lie. So since you were there, what Dodge Dealership was i sitting in? If you can not answer that, you have a mental problem. Please stop disagreeing with stuff that you do not know. Just admit your wrong and move on.
 
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Robert Schaad said:
1973 Dodge Charger with 340 6 pack does not exist. Really? I sat in the Dodge Dealership with a dream car in mind. I talked to sales man but was told I could not get a 6 pack that year. I was upset and said thank you. I stood up and was leaving. The sales man said wait. I sat there and waited as he called the factory and found that they had a 340 6 pack available and he said they would put it into the car and put a Z in the 5th digit of the VIN showing that the engine was a special order engine. He told me that you would have to look at the paperwork to see what engine was put in it. I ordered it, but later i cancelled the order. But i have some members on this site that must have been sitting in the empty chair beside me that said everything i have said was a lie. So since you were there, what Dodge Dealership was i sitting in? If you can not answer that, you have a mental problem. Please stop disagreeing with stuff that you do not know. Just admit your wrong and move on.
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A little different story when I ordered my 67 Satellite 383-4, 4-speed car. I asked the salesman about the Hemi option in a Satellite while my dad wasn't with us. He told me that it wasn't an available option on the Satellite but he could check that box in the order and see what happened. Ofcourse it wasn't in my budget and dad would have raised the roof so it didn't happen. Apparently it would have worked as there were 67 Hemi Satellite's that got out of the factory. Not many but it did happen.
 
Robert are you really going to go for post three or four in this style, or are you going to start offering some of your car fix advise in threads instead, using your years of experience of doing it on the fly?? You say you have tips and tricks, maybe start there vs these kinda threads!
 
Robert Schaad said:
1973 Dodge Charger with 340 6 pack does not exist. Really? I sat in the Dodge Dealership with a dream car in mind. I talked to sales man but was told I could not get a 6 pack that year. I was upset and said thank you. I stood up and was leaving. The sales man said wait. I sat there and waited as he called the factory and found that they had a 340 6 pack available and he said they would put it into the car and put a Z in the 5th digit of the VIN showing that the engine was a special order engine. He told me that you would have to look at the paperwork to see what engine was put in it. I ordered it, but later i cancelled the order. But i have some members on this site that must have been sitting in the empty chair beside me that said everything i have said was a lie. So since you were there, what Dodge Dealership was i sitting in? If you can not answer that, you have a mental problem. Please stop disagreeing with stuff that you do not know. Just admit your wrong and move on.
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If the order was canceled how do you know the car was ever produced. It would not have came of the normal production line with a 340/6 in it.
 
Robert Schaad said:
1973 Dodge Charger with 340 6 pack does not exist. Really? I sat in the Dodge Dealership with a dream car in mind. I talked to sales man but was told I could not get a 6 pack that year. I was upset and said thank you. I stood up and was leaving. The sales man said wait. I sat there and waited as he called the factory and found that they had a 340 6 pack available and he said they would put it into the car and put a Z in the 5th digit of the VIN showing that the engine was a special order engine. He told me that you would have to look at the paperwork to see what engine was put in it. I ordered it, but later i cancelled the order. But i have some members on this site that must have been sitting in the empty chair beside me that said everything i have said was a lie. So since you were there, what Dodge Dealership was i sitting in? If you can not answer that, you have a mental problem. Please stop disagreeing with stuff that you do not know. Just admit your wrong and move on.
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You are a confused person.
A dealer can order anything...The assembly plant can refuse to build it too.
Nobody cares about this topic but you. Find something else to write about.
 
Jerry Hall said:
A little different story when I ordered my 67 Satellite 383-4, 4-speed car. I asked the salesman about the Hemi option in a Satellite while my dad wasn't with us. He told me that it wasn't an available option on the Satellite but he could check that box in the order and see what happened. Ofcourse it wasn't in my budget and dad would have raised the roof so it didn't happen. Apparently it would have worked as there were 67 Hemi Satellite's that got out of the factory. Not many but it did happen.
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the thing here is, the 426 hemi was an available optional engine beginning 66 - 71 in the GTX. it wouldn't have been too hard to get it installed in a satellite because they were already available
 
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I was wrong. It's been ten years and a thousand tears and look at the mess I'm in. A broken nose and a broken heart, an empty bottle of Gin. As I sit here and I pray, in a broken down Chevrolet, I'm thinkin' to myself there has to be a better way...
 
I know car salesmen are sheisters, but that's a pretty good one. "Hey, factory, you got a 340 6 pack ?" " Yeah, we got one hidden in a closet". "Ok, put it in a Charger, and give it the mark of Zorro in the VIN"
 
Social Distortion did a song called I Was Wrong, but it has been so long since I heard it I forgot how it goes.
 
My Uncle's nephew had a sister that knew a guy that ordered this Volare in 1978. He had to call the factory to get them to put a 440 in it.

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Robert, if you know what happened be happy with that and just let it lie.
You'll never get everyone to agree with you, so why keep punishing yourself?

If you find yourself in a situation like in your other thread on this subject, it's better to ignore the thread and move on as you'll never win, and it's obviously causing you concern, otherwise you wouldn't be posting this latest thread.

I actually believe your story - but as others' have said they may not have followed through with the order, and you may have got a subsequent call from the Dealer to tell you that, or the car would have been different when it showed up.

All the best, and keep posting about your other stuff.
 
This story requires the reader to believe a salesman bypassed his sales manager, the dealership owner, the district manager, the regional manager, and corporate headquarters to speak directly with a plant manager who knew exactly what engines he had in stock at a plant that never built cars that came with a 340-6. (Why would the plant even have this engine on site?)

Said manager was willing to install an engine that would, likely, violate emissions guidelines, therefore jeopardizing his career and put the company sideways with the feds and for which he has no pricing authority to relate to the salesman. (Who decided how much this swap would cost and how would it be billed on the window sticker?) His plant would have no engineering designs to share with the line workers on how to install the engine and multi carb set up. He had no authority to offer a warranty on this engine, therefore, again, jeopardizing the company and dealership.

so.......it’s a great story but there are legitimate questions that would have to answered before it can be accepted. Can you see how people didn’t need to be sitting next to you and still be a little skeptical?
 
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