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This is the clip that holds the end of the rod to the transmission lever kick down on a 904. After it’s slipped into the lever hole. It slips onto the rod and keeps it in place. I’m in the process of replacing a cable with the original linkage. Hoping someone would be so kind to help me. I don’t expect anything for free. Beyond stupid, that this rod end has no holes for a cotter pin. Like all other rod ends have.

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I know where they can be found now. Disregard.
 
Beyond stupid, that this rod end has no holes for a cotter pin. Like all other rod ends have.

"Stupid" is a matter of opinion. There were several methods of attachment for the various linkage designs and not all of them had a hole for a cotter pin. Some had a hole for a spring clip similar to the shift levers on the 833 4 speed transmission. I'm not sure that the factory actually used cotter pins there....I suspect that cars with cotter pins may have them because someone in the past lost the original clip and used a cotter pin.
Some had these clips that you mention, some had ends that snapped into nylon bushings.
 
This is the clip that holds the end of the rod to the transmission lever kick down on a 904. After it’s slipped into the lever hole. It slips onto the rod and keeps it in place. I’m in the process of replacing a cable with the original linkage. Hoping someone would be so kind to help me. I don’t expect anything for free. Beyond stupid, that this rod end has no holes for a cotter pin. Like all other rod ends have.

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  1. I recently posted the same thing. Wondering the same thing as cotter pins are much simpler and more reliable than a cheesy clip that can and does pop off. I found these at Oreillys or Autozone in that wonderful “Help” section lol.
 
You could always drill a small hole for a pin. Later kick down rods got rid of those clips.
 
"Stupid" is a matter of opinion. There were several methods of attachment for the various linkage designs and not all of them had a hole for a cotter pin. Some had a hole for a spring clip similar to the shift levers on the 833 4 speed transmission. I'm not sure that the factory actually used cotter pins there....I suspect that cars with cotter pins may have them because someone in the past lost the original clip and used a cotter pin.
Some had these clips that you mention, some had ends that snapped into nylon bushings.
I’m aware that many of them have different end attachments etc. It still makes zero sense that all rod ends have holes for cotter pins or R clips. Except this end. You can’t say, maybe you have a mismatched part. Because all 69 - 904 Torqueflites are the same. Why put holes at every end of each rod ? But, not this one end ? You can’t say quicker attachment at that point. Because, that makes no sense either. Regardless, of the clip or not. A hole should have been machined there. like the other 2 rod ends. They used the clip on this end as if it were quicker to connect / disconnect in that location. It simply isn’t. I understand the theory of the design. But, you can remove and install an R push clip as fast and easy.
  1. I recently posted the same thing. Wondering the same thing as cotter pins are much simpler and more reliable than a cheesy clip that can and does pop off. I found these at Oreillys or Autozone in that wonderful “Help” section lol.
I completely agree. I understand the reasoning behind it. It’s that way on that end for supposed quick connect or disconnect. Which is not easier or faster had the manufacturer just drilled a hole for an R clip as they did on the other 2 rod ends.
 
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You could always drill a small hole for a pin. Later kick down rods got rid of those clips.
I don’t have a drill press. Drilling a small hole into a 5/16” steel rod with a hand drill is not that simple. I considered tapping threads on it for a nut. Until, I found out the clip is easily available. Hopefully, my local Autozone carries the assortment package on stock. I waited nearly a month for the linkage. Had to buy another, because the linkage I originally bought a month ago is still stuck in NYC due to shipping problems there. Bought a second linkage and the seller didn’t include this clip. Unlike, his advertising that it did. Should have never sold my original linkage. No kidding, I have $330 tied up in 2 linkages. Only received one and couldn’t install the other that I did receive. It’s been a nightmare.
 
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I don’t have a drill press. Drilling a small hole into a 5/16” steel rod with a hand drill is not that simple. I considered tapping threads on it for a nut. Until, I found out the clip is easily available. Hopefully, my local Autozone carries the assortment package on stock. I waited nearly a month for the linkage. Had to buy another, because the linkage I originally bought a month ago is still stuck in NYC due to shipping problems there. Bought a second linkage and the seller didn’t include this clip. Unlike, his advertising that it did. Should have never sold my original linkage. No kidding, I have $330 tied up in 2 linkages. Only received one and couldn’t install the other that I did receive. It’s been a nightmare.

I feel your pain it's never easy & this "pandemic" hasn't made it any easier.....
 
I feel your pain it's never easy & this "pandemic" hasn't made it any easier.....
You’re right. It’s been hard on all of us around the world with mental frustrations. Based on fears of our future. This is a small problem in comparison. I just hope people in general support one another best we can. Unfortunately, the world is full of ignorance, greed and hypocrisy. Pandemics don’t change this. It makes it worst in most cases.
 
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So you answered your own question and won't let us in on where you found them?
Autozone sells an assortment package that they call fuel injection retainers. They are also listed on Ebay as carburetor linkage retainers. Lawn tractor industry also deals with these retainers. They too are listed on Ebay as C clevis retainers. A few different names and applications for the same clips. I’m learning too, ha ha
 
I don’t have a drill press. Drilling a small hole into a 5/16” steel rod with a hand drill is not that simple. I considered tapping threads on it for a nut. Until, I found out the clip is easily available. Hopefully, my local Autozone carries the assortment package on stock. I waited nearly a month for the linkage. Had to buy another, because the linkage I originally bought a month ago is still stuck in NYC due to shipping problems there. Bought a second linkage and the seller didn’t include this clip. Unlike, his advertising that it did. Should have never sold my original linkage. No kidding, I have $330 tied up in 2 linkages. Only received one and couldn’t install the other that I did receive. It’s been a nightmare.
So you answered your own question and won't let us in on where you found them?

Read the rest of the thread...

I don’t have a drill press. Drilling a small hole into a 5/16” steel rod with a hand drill is not that simple. I considered tapping threads on it for a nut. Until, I found out the clip is easily available. Hopefully, my local Autozone carries the assortment package on stock. I waited nearly a month for the linkage. Had to buy another, because the linkage I originally bought a month ago is still stuck in NYC due to shipping problems there. Bought a second linkage and the seller didn’t include this clip. Unlike, his advertising that it did. Should have never sold my original linkage. No kidding, I have $330 tied up in 2 linkages. Only received one and couldn’t install the other that I did receive. It’s been a nightmare.
 
I do agree that there have been several engineering designs that defy common sense.
One that always puzzles me is WHY did Ma Mopar put almost everything on the drivers side?
Shift and KD linkage and the speedometer cable I understand but why the starter, ATF lines too? Why crowd the area with so much stuff?
 
I read the whole thread!
Ah ha, your responses have me laughing. You’re welcome kid. I ll never forget, you helped me eliminate my vapor lock. Suggested, I buy a wood spacer. Best investment I made for my car. I thank you.
 
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Ah ha, your responses have me laughing. Your welcome kid. I ll never forget, you helped me eliminate my vapor lock. Suggested, I buy a wood spacer. Best investment I made for my car. I thank you.

That's what this site is all about :thumbsup:
 
I do agree that there have been several engineering designs that defy common sense.
One that always puzzles me is WHY did Ma Mopar put almost everything on the drivers side?
Shift and KD linkage and the speedometer cable I understand but why the starter, ATF lines too? Why crowd the area with so much stuff?
Yep, good comparisons and leave the passenger side wide open. Sometimes, there are goofy reasons that we simply don’t know why a manufacturer decided to do something that doesn’t make sense to us. But, sometimes those reasons are ridiculous any way you look at it.
 
I had a 76 Camaro with a 350 years ago. ATF lines on the right, starter too. Oil filter on the left. Shifter cable instead of rods and bellcranks.
The heavy front suspension wasn't a great exercise in the light and strong theme that Ma Mopar adopted but hey...
 
They haven't changed over the years either. I have a 2007 Sebring with a four banger. Changing the timing belt, water pump, all the components on that end and they have that sucker jammed up against the strut tower. The other end of the engine is wide open spaces! Doesn't make any sence.
 
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