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i have a big block trans the number stamped on side is 2688717 i believe its a 727 but my issue is it has 27 spline outer shaft and 19 input shaft im trying to purchase a 3000 stall speed the original converter is 11 inch with 10 inch bolt pattern i called jegs and look on summit they say only 904 has 27 spline my pan has dog leg on front passenger side so im confused thanks in advance
 
i have a big block trans the number stamped on side is 2688717 i believe its a 727 but my issue is it has 27 spline outer shaft and 19 input shaft im trying to purchase a 3000 stall speed the original converter is 11 inch with 10 inch bolt pattern i called jegs and look on summit they say only 904 has 27 spline my pan has dog leg on front passenger side so im confused thanks in advance
I think you may have a 66 model, later units have a 24 spline input. It can be updated which will give MANY more converter choices. I confirmed this by searching this site.
Mike
 
i have a big block trans the number stamped on side is 2688717 i believe its a 727 but my issue is it has 27 spline outer shaft and 19 input shaft im trying to purchase a 3000 stall speed the original converter is 11 inch with 10 inch bolt pattern i called jegs and look on summit they say only 904 has 27 spline my pan has dog leg on front passenger side so im confused thanks in advance
By looking at the thread beanhead has shown above, it won't take long to determine the transmission. Personally, I don't believe that Chrysler ever offered a 904 behind a big block. From 1962 to 1966 the 727 converter was a 12", narrow ring gear, medium stall converter, with 19 splines. From 1967 on, all 727's have 24 splines.
904's from 1962 had 18 splines, and from 1968 on they had 27 splines.
When it comes time to order your high stall, go direct to a high stall builder. Dynamic, Precision and PTC are mentioned as being the places to go. Here's my thinking behind this. While Jegs, Summit and the like are great places for some items, they lack the personal with real performance converter knowledge. A converter builder will ask you all kinds of questions about your engine, tire size, diff ratio etc., and from that information they will build you a converter best suited for your particular situation. Having worked in the industry, I know that if you don't give them honest answers to their questions, your converter won't perform properly. If you check their websites, most if not all will have a specification sheet for you to look at and see what they will be asking you.
The only other advise I can pass along: Don't let price be your only guide, as you get what you pay for.
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If its a linkage shift big block its a 66 727. There are no BB 904. 66 is the only year that has 19 spline input and linkage shift. To fit a late converter you need to swap the input shaft and reaction shaft support. I've done a ton of these conversions. Though this pertains to cable shift conversions the front half is the same. Learn here:
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0807-transmission-torque-converter/
Doug
 
i believe the motor and trans came together the rb has 1978 on block the pan has a dod leg but the outer converter shaft has 27 spline can this be a 727 with lock up converter ???
 
By looking at the thread beanhead has shown above, it won't take long to determine the transmission. Personally, I don't believe that Chrysler ever offered a 904 behind a big block. From 1962 to 1966 the 727 converter was a 12", narrow ring gear, medium stall converter, with 19 splines. From 1967 on, all 727's have 24 splines.
904's from 1962 had 18 splines, and from 1968 on they had 27 splines.
When it comes time to order your high stall, go direct to a high stall builder. Dynamic, Precision and PTC are mentioned as being the places to go. Here's my thinking behind this. While Jegs, Summit and the like are great places for some items, they lack the personal with real performance converter knowledge. A converter builder will ask you all kinds of questions about your engine, tire size, diff ratio etc., and from that information they will build you a converter best suited for your particular situation. Having worked in the industry, I know that if you don't give them honest answers to their questions, your converter won't perform properly. If you check their websites, most if not all will have a specification sheet for you to look at and see what they will be asking you.
The only other advise I can pass along: Don't let price be your only guide, as you get what you pay for.
.
 
By looking at the thread beanhead has shown above, it won't take long to determine the transmission. Personally, I don't believe that Chrysler ever offered a 904 behind a big block. From 1962 to 1966 the 727 converter was a 12", narrow ring gear, medium stall converter, with 19 splines. From 1967 on, all 727's have 24 splines.
904's from 1962 had 18 splines, and from 1968 on they had 27 splines.
When it comes time to order your high stall, go direct to a high stall builder. Dynamic, Precision and PTC are mentioned as being the places to go. Here's my thinking behind this. While Jegs, Summit and the like are great places for some items, they lack the personal with real performance converter knowledge. A converter builder will ask you all kinds of questions about your engine, tire size, diff ratio etc., and from that information they will build you a converter best suited for your particular situation. Having worked in the industry, I know that if you don't give them honest answers to their questions, your converter won't perform properly. If you check their websites, most if not all will have a specification sheet for you to look at and see what they will be asking you.
The only other advise I can pass along: Don't let price be your only guide, as you get what you pay for.
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so the engine and trans came together the block is marked 1978 is it possiable the trans is a 727 with lock up converter hense the 27 spline outer converter shaft ??
thanks Lou
 
The outer spline is the reaction shaft support, and they were all 27 spline as far as I know. The inner shaft is the input shaft, and if it has 19 splines then it requires a 66 or earlier torque converter. As has been stated by everyone above the input shaft etc. can be changed to the more common 24 spline.
 
as the pan shows its a 727 my issue is it a 27 spline shaft i am wondering if its a 727 with lock up converter the motor stamped as a 78
Input shaft on lock-up converter is 23 splines. Do you have any markings, numbers on the side of the converter, factory sticker on the side of the converter?
 
The outer spline is the reaction shaft support, and they were all 27 spline as far as I know. The inner shaft is the input shaft, and if it has 19 splines then it requires a 66 or earlier torque converter. As has been stated by everyone above the input shaft etc. can be changed to the more common 24 spline.
i see yes the inner shaft is 19 spline and the outer shaft is 27
 
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