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Extreme Violence Video Involves A Police Officer VS A Knife Wielding Subject

Who knows what the marxist news networks will say about it. The Sheriff is ok, and that's all that matters.

Man I love the sheriff down in your state that keeps defending peoples rights... Good Man, a rare thing these days...
 
YUP, it’s real bud. Actual footage was on ABC news about 2 hours ago. Happened in Eaton County, MI. It was a brave MI State Trooper who stopped that bad boy! Watch the news, you’ll see it.
Not being critical Sir, but she is with the Sheriff's Department, not a State Trooper.
 
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Having a little experience in this sort of thing I have a few observations/comments

1. the cop is a perfect example of a need for more training. The threat level escalated rapidly as soon as the subject moved towards here armed with a knife. She had plenty of time to bring her weapon to bear in a very controlled manner yet when she decided to fire it was a frantic event.

2. she should have never let him get that close to her, if she was going to stand her ground then he should be laying between the 2 vehicles, however if not she should have continued to back up.

3. I do not think all of those rounds went into her vehicle, I believe some went down the street (bad)

4. unlike the movies, people do not always fall down immediately when shot, especially if they are under any kind of influence from drugs. This proves the point that non fatal shots are not effective in stopping someone typically
 
Not being critical Sir, but she was a Sheriff, not State Trooper.
There you go, you got it! It was an Eaton County Sheriff & she was (is) awesome!
My wife was blabbing to me in the background :rolleyes: and distracted me from seeing all this sad news out there! I hate watching ‘current events’ these days. Way to go Sheriff!
 
she should have never let him get that close to her, if she was going to stand her ground then he should be laying between the 2 vehicles, however if not she should have continued to back up.
Sure, continue backing up & get in her car & lock the doors! WTH, put yourself in that same situation......nuff said.
 
Having a little experience in this sort of thing I have a few observations/comments

1. the cop is a perfect example of a need for more training. The threat level escalated rapidly as soon as the subject moved towards here armed with a knife. She had plenty of time to bring her weapon to bear in a very controlled manner yet when she decided to fire it was a frantic event.

2. she should have never let him get that close to her, if she was going to stand her ground then he should be laying between the 2 vehicles, however if not she should have continued to back up.

3. I do not think all of those rounds went into her vehicle, I believe some went down the street (bad)

4. unlike the movies, people do not always fall down immediately when shot, especially if they are under any kind of influence from drugs. This proves the point that non fatal shots are not effective in stopping someone typically
Correct, she should have never let that guy get so close. I'm no police officer, and somebody exits their vehicle in an .aggressive manner, my weapon would be out, of course a round will already be in battery. She did seem a bit frantic.
 
Having a little experience in this sort of thing I have a few observations/comments

1. the cop is a perfect example of a need for more training. The threat level escalated rapidly as soon as the subject moved towards here armed with a knife. She had plenty of time to bring her weapon to bear in a very controlled manner yet when she decided to fire it was a frantic event.

2. she should have never let him get that close to her, if she was going to stand her ground then he should be laying between the 2 vehicles, however if not she should have continued to back up.

3. I do not think all of those rounds went into her vehicle, I believe some went down the street (bad)

4. unlike the movies, people do not always fall down immediately when shot, especially if they are under any kind of influence from drugs. This proves the point that non fatal shots are not effective in stopping someone typically
Your #3, I think you are totally right. That is scary.
 
I have no experience of guns, but if it was real I'm surprised the guy didn't have any visible damage or was her first few shots missing him? I thought the bullets would blow big holes in him, not just a little hole with blood like in the old movies?


More than likely she carried a 9mm, a 45 would more than likely stopped him after the second or third round. But since the police patrol in populated areas and do miss in situations like this a 45 round will go through walls in multiple rooms before it stops. 9mm less of a chance of that happening.
 
More than likely she carried a 9mm, a 45 would more than likely stopped him after the second or third round. But since the police patrol in populated areas and do miss in situations like this a 45 round will go through walls in multiple rooms before it stops. 9mm less of a chance of that happening.
Sorry, but a 9mm full metal jacket can go through walls. It's a flawed theory that .40, or .45 being "manstoppers". I don't know where these people get their info about "inferior" calibers.
 
Sure, continue backing up & get in her car & lock the doors! WTH, put yourself in that same situation......nuff said.
You should check out the video of a Toronto cop being attacked by a thug who was just released from prison. That officer should quit.
 
Are police departments no longer issuing pump (riot) shotguns?
 
This happened just outside of Lansing which was my old stomping grounds. I watched the video several times (stop play stop play) and it appears that her weapon did one of two things: 1) Stove piped a round for some reason (you can see the slide locked back) or 2) The magazine release was bumped and the magazine was starting to come out. You can see her slam the bottom of the magazine to re-seat it (but now your chamber is empty) so you have to pull back the slide to chamber another round. I did not see a stove pipe so my best guess is the release got bumped. Not sure if Eaton County is using Glock or Sigs at this time. Back in the day Sigs had a last round slide lock so you knew when you were out of rounds or the magazine was missing. We used Sigs so I can't be sure if the Glocks have that feature or not. Regardless, quick thinking under a lot of pressure on her part.
 
Regardless, quick thinking under a lot of pressure on her part.

It's called training... Train before you need it so it just happens when you do need it... Bet she takes it even more seriously now....
Glad she had enough to stay in it when it mattered...
 
I hate having to use both hands to close the slide on a live round. I like my thumb lever on the side, push down, slide closes on a live round and fire away. Oh and the slide stays open on the last round.
 
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Sorry, but a 9mm full metal jacket can go through walls. It's a flawed theory that .40, or .45 being "manstoppers". I don't know where these people get their info about "inferior" calibers.

What I was saying the reason why police departments don't issue large-caliber guns as taught to me in my firearms training because of their higher velosity. I was trying to say is a 45 will go through walls and on through a neighbor's walls or down a street and kill a innocent person. I didn't say a 9mm can't go through walls. If I'm wrong then tell that to our range instructor who was well versed in gun craft. A 45 is a much bigger round and will make a bigger hole in the human body so that in my view would stop the attack sooner. Believe me, our department issued us 357 revolvers but issued 38 caliber rounds one because of less mussel velocity and two less damage to the subject getting shot. It was made clear to me at the time I came on that was because the chance of death was less. But then we did nothing without civilian administrators saying what we could carry. Officers are held responsible for every round they put out there a reckless assault or homicide charge awaits any officer who has the miss fortune of a stray round hitting someone.
 
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It's called training... Train before you need it so it just happens when you do need it... Bet she takes it even more seriously now....
Glad she had enough to stay in it when it mattered...

You're saying you can train fear out of someone? You might have watched too many Clint Eastwood films then. Fear is a human trait that is comes out in people differently in different situations. All you can do is train to how you're going to respond to it with the tools given to you. She did well in my observation and anyone who has been in that situation just might agree.
 
Are police departments no longer issuing pump (riot) shotguns?

You are in most cases are hampered with a shot because of it's the size and requiring two hands to shoot it unless your John Wayne. In this incident, she didn't know what he was going to do, she would have to grab it from the rack which in most police shotguns are locked between the seats unlock it climb out of the car and draw down on the subject all the while he is close and knows what he's going to do.
 
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