Finished for the season

Tintoy35 · Nov 20, 2020

Finished for the season. Decided to try something different this year so went 6.50 index. A little bit of learning as such as slowing down the car and .04 pro tree foot braking. Time to start freshen up trans and converter. Hope everyone has a good winter.

440Coronet500 · Nov 21, 2020

Had a nice day here yesterday, took my car out for a good rip, washed it and put it away for the season! 440'

66383 · Nov 21, 2020

Love index racing & the pro tree. Hope you have a good winter too. :thumbsup:

dvw · Nov 21, 2020

Can you deep stage? .400 foot braking is near impossible.
Doug

Mike Gaines · Nov 21, 2020

I love the .400 Pro Tree. We use that tree when I race with the AFX/Nostalgia West Racing Group ( I dial in at 9.00 with that group) and the GAS Classes regular races. (Like C/Gas which is a 9.60 index class).
I do have a trans brake, big tires, light car, ladder bars and lots of horsepower so I can now pretty much anticipate .020 / .025 lights on average with some .010s and .030s sprinkled in there.
I just pop the button the instant I see anything Yellow. Great thing is .... I have NEVER red lit on the .400 pro tree (because I do not ANTICIPATE when i think the Yellow bulbs are going to come one.
With my 66 Coronet, even with a transbrake I could never get a light better than .100 or slower on the .400 pro tree. The Coronet weighed 3800lbs on the start line, had Cal Trac Suspension, only 11" wide rear tires and only 700hp and the car just took too long to react.
I knew when I got the right car I would get quick lites on the .400 Pro Tree, which I now do.

Tintoy35 · Nov 22, 2020

dvw said:
Can you deep stage? .400 foot braking is near impossible.
Doug

Originally the rules were courtesy staging, brake and 2 step allowed ,and no deep staging

Tintoy35 · Nov 22, 2020

Tintoy35 said:
Originally the rules were courtesy staging, brake and 2 step allowed ,and no deep staging

Had to run 3 different brand x cars that deep staged. 2 i put on the trailer 3rd double bulbed and deep stage. I lost that one . Posting a couple time slips.

Tintoy35 · Nov 22, 2020

Mike Gaines said:
I love the .400 Pro Tree. We use that tree when I race with the AFX/Nostalgia West Racing Group ( I dial in at 9.00 with that group) and the GAS Classes regular races. (Like C/Gas which is a 9.60 index class).
I do have a trans brake, big tires, light car, ladder bars and lots of horsepower so I can now pretty much anticipate .020 / .025 lights on average with some .010s and .030s sprinkled in there.
I just pop the button the instant I see anything Yellow. Great thing is .... I have NEVER red lit on the .400 pro tree (because I do not ANTICIPATE when i think the Yellow bulbs are going to come one.
With my 66 Coronet, even with a transbrake I could never get a light better than .100 or slower on the .400 pro tree. The Coronet weighed 3800lbs on the start line, had Cal Trac Suspension, only 11" wide rear tires and only 700hp and the car just took too long to react.
I knew when I got the right car I would get quick lites on the .400 Pro Tree, which I now do.

Tintoy35 · Nov 22, 2020

I had been trying to red light on purpose and finally did with a -.0079 not guessing on the tree. I have a hand held practice tree that I set on the 400 pro tree and practice red lighting. I found if I can red light at about -200 that will put me at about .08xx in the car. Will work on my lights over the winter. Rick

dvw · Nov 23, 2020

The trouble is .200 on the practice tree is not a realistic number. These cars work at about .320-.350 in the rollout. I swap back and forth between pro and full using .350, both at the same rollout. The R/T are very close between the 2. Usually average in the .1x range. For roughly the last 300 passes the average in the car on a full tree is in the .025- .027 range. On Pro I could probably hit it a little harder. Now I see on 2 of your slips you are .086, 1 -.008. A .090 jump is not a normal spread if you practice. The spread is usually less than +/- .010. This style car run a .500 Pro tree and can go red. But red on a .400 Pro. That's a guess. So my question is this; Someone is going to show up with a 6.50 car that can go .00x on a .400 tree. What do you do then? I've run a .400 tree bumping in without going full deep. Had decent success, but the accuracy isnt as good.
Doug

Tintoy35 · Nov 23, 2020

dvw said:
The trouble is .200 on the practice tree is not a realistic number. These cars work at about .320-.350 in the rollout. I swap back and forth between pro and full using .350, both at the same rollout. The R/T are very close between the 2. Usually average in the .1x range. For roughly the last 300 passes the average in the car on a full tree is in the .025- .027 range. On Pro I could probably hit it a little harder. Now I see on 2 of your slips you are .086, 1 -.008. A .090 jump is not a normal spread if you practice. The spread is usually less than +/- .010. This style car run a .500 Pro tree and can go red. But red on a .400 Pro. That's a guess. So my question is this; Someone is going to show up with a 6.50 car that can go .00x on a .400 tree. What do you do then? I've run a .400 tree bumping in without going full deep. Had decent success, but the accuracy isnt as good.
Doug

Thanks As I said I am just learning how to handle the pro tree as I'm old and slow.
The 200 on the practice tree is just an exercise for eye hand and foot coordination.
Just trying to speed up my reflexes. I have been losing in third round at the end of the season where I was giving up over a tenth and going out 1st round. Thanks again Rick. Did you see my other post about low gear opinions. I would appreciate your thoughts.

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