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FDA approves the Johnson & Johnson single dose vaccine.

CudaChick1968 said:
I'm with @Ironbuilt. I don't condone government overreach, agree that this "pandemic" is more of a political scam than a dire threat, and compare the fact we've been unable to create vaccines for an entire list of ages-old maladies (cancer, AIDS, etc.) for decades despite throwing millions at research over the years. I don't trust big government or Bill Gates, and know that pharmaceutical companies do not create cures ... because creating CUSTOMERS is much more profitable.

My friend posted this. It's one of many the last few weeks. I'll take my chances on a virus with a 98%+ recovery rate. You can have "my" doses.

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Why do these companies insist on calling it "Vaccine"?

What is in it that they are not telling us about? :mob:

What is the connection between Dr Fauci and the Founders of one of the so-called "Vaccines"?
Financial conflict of interest?
"Fingers in the pie"?

Nanites? They can be programmed to do all sorts of things that regular chemicals cannot.

I have never been an "anti-vaxxer", but for now I am not willing to trust something that has been rushed into service without forethought or significant testing.
 
I had the covid 1st of Nov. confirmed by testing at the Dr. I was lucky and was able to ride it out at home.
62 and reasonably healthy for my age.
I do not wish to have it again. When my turn comes up I will take the vaccine.
My wife goes in tues for her 1st shot. she is 65 and has had 2 heart attacks , 4 way bypass plus valve repair. Drs. tell her she has 42% heart function. During the time I had it I lived in our 2nd story stayed completely away from her and the down stairs for 11 days.
She wore a mask and would set food ect on the bottom step then close the door.
Yes getting the vaccine is a personal choice and should remain so , but I am here to tell ya you do not want this crap. Folks that compare it to the flu have not had it.
If you or anyone in your family has health problems please take the vaccine your chances of a bad out come dealing with covid to me out weigh the chance of having a reaction to the vaccine.
 
hsorman said:
I humbly request we cite well established facts when doing so.
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FACT: A portion of our Government has used Covid as a means of establishing total control of power in America!!
BTW Masks are a joke and DON"T work, but people are wearing them like it's a religion.
As for 500,000 deaths in America, I don't believe that for one second. I don't believe anything that MSM tells me. Show me the proof.
 
kiwigtx said:
Why do these companies insist on calling it "Vaccine"?

What is in it that they are not telling us about? :mob:

What is the connection between Dr Fauci and the Founders of one of the so-called "Vaccines"?
Financial conflict of interest?
"Fingers in the pie"?

Nanites? They can be programmed to do all sorts of things that regular chemicals cannot.

I have never been an "anti-vaxxer", but for now I am not willing to trust something that has been rushed into service without forethought or significant testing.
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For a while I was thinking about conspiracy theories, but I don’t think they apply. If the ‘powers’ that be wanted to control via an injectable thing such as nanites don’t you think they would have been doing it for many years now already with all the vaccines that most of the population previously deemed to be acceptable?

Just a thought
 
4mulas said:
For a while I was thinking about conspiracy theories, but I don’t think they apply. If the ‘powers’ that be wanted to control via an injectable thing such as nanites don’t you think they would have been doing it for many years now already with all the vaccines that most of the population previously deemed to be acceptable?

Just a thought
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IMHO, Drug companies and Governments don't really want to find cures for diseases such as Cancer and other major killers....they just want all that public money for themselves. Research is just another name for hoarding the cash and hiding behind the curtains.

Every year someone announces they have a cure for cancer, and that's about the last you ever hear about them.

I'll bet that we keep seeing variants of Covid vaccines emerge every year until the next big virus emerges....just because it sucks up public money.

Several people over the last 40 years have come up with alternatives to fossil fuels that actually work in combustion engines, but they never see light of day. There was a guy in New Zealand back in the '70's who successfully worked out a way to run a car on water.....he has never been seen or heard from since.
 
kiwigtx said:
There was a guy in New Zealand back in the '70's who successfully worked out a way to run a car on water.....he has never been seen or heard from since.
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Steam ? :D
 
for the people that get the "vaccine"
I hope for their sake, they don't have adverse side-effects
like the other vaccines already out have had, in many cases
we even have several members here that had 'bad side effects'
(seems like after the 2nd dose)
especially if they were in good health to begin with
they possibly "may not have even still been here after"


if you want to get vaccinated go right ahead
if you're in one of the groups 'that is far more susceptible'
to getting ill or dying if you contract the Chinese Wuhan Flu
good, go get the vaccine if you feel the need to
but don't force it on anyone, especially the more healthy crowd

that's about all I will say,
without turning it more political than it already is
 
hsorman said:
Really? How many people do you know that use an iron lung or are in a wheel chair due to Polio? Deaths from Measles and Mumps are pretty much non-existent in vaccinated, modern countries, just to name a couple more.

In general, as it relates to this discussion (not specifically to Leanna - I am not looking to attack anyone but trying to calmly discuss and provide alternate points of view):
Look, I get it. Some don't want to take the new Covid Vaccine. That's fine and that is any given person's choice.

But a few facts to consider: Yes, pharmaceutical companies want to make good profits. We, as a country, want companies to work in a capitalistic free economy. That's the foundation on which the USA is built. But then it is suddenly a sin when pharmaceutical companies make profits? They become vilified, evil companies for some reason. Yes, there have been some "bad apple" companies in the past that have raised prices like mad. But most are pretty responsible companies that want to do good work AND make profits. Last year, drug prices went up 3.3%. The biggest increase in heath care is due to hospitals and insurance (read: law suits).
By the way, Apple makes 260 BILLION dollars a year, way more than all the pharmaceutical companies combined. But that seems to be OK.

We can discuss taking, or not taking, the Covid vaccine. This is an emotional topic and we all have our thoughts on that, but I humbly request we cite well established facts when doing so.
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Vaccines exist for some virus’s but not all virus’s are the same. Some mutate way more than others where some are very stable. To make a true vaccine can take years of research and then have the virus mutate.

When they make a flu vaccine they take a guess on which strains they think will be the most prevalent for the coming year and formulate a vaccine to hopefully counter the effect of those strains, but there are thousands upon thousands of strains. That’s why some years the flu vaccine might work better than other years.
 
I'm kinda locked in to taking the crap. Unless I never want to be in the same room with our son again, I gotta take it. He absolutely refuses to take any chances. he's very logical and says that to not take a substance that could keep you from dying from a virus is just a non starter. He' has already informed his Mother and I of that. He stated that he has not attended school for 18+ years to gain a PHD in Nuclear Physics to just throw it all away over taking a damn shot or not.
 
Ironbuilt said:
I don't believe anything that MSM tells me. Show me the proof.
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I assume the term "MSM" means main stream media, so I would assume that you don't believe CDC statistics, or the statistics that other governments not controlled by the USA are reporting. You say show me the proof but if you discount any of the sites that report on it what proof will you accept?
My brother-in-law's mother just died from Covid. She was old, but overall healthy and doing OK, then she caught the virus and passed away about two weeks later. That's pretty darn real to me that Covid can be dangerous.

I don't buy all the conspiracy theories that this is made up or used to control us for whatever reason. Why are there deaths all over the world being reported, including from many of our adversaries? Did all countries somehow get together and decide to do this? For almost any decision, we can't get a few governments to even agree on small things, much less the whole world. I just don't buy it.
 
Ghostrider 67 said:
I'm kinda locked in to taking the crap. Unless I never want to be in the same room with our son again, I gotta take it. He absolutely refuses to take any chances. he's very logical and says that to not take a substance that could keep you from dying from a virus is just a non starter. He' has already informed his Mother and I of that. He stated that he has not attended school for 18+ years to gain a PHD in Nuclear Physics to just throw it all away over taking a damn shot or not.
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Sounds like he really drank the Kool-Aid in college all those years.
 
hsorman said:
I assume the term "MSM" means main stream media, so I would assume that you don't believe CDC statistics, or the statistics that other governments not controlled by the USA are reporting. You say show me the proof but if you discount any of the sites that report on it what proof will you accept?
My brother-in-law's mother just died from Covid. She was old, but overall healthy and doing OK, then she caught the virus and passed away about two weeks later. That's pretty darn real to me that Covid can be dangerous.

I don't buy all the conspiracy theories that this is made up or used to control us for whatever reason. Why are there deaths all over the world being reported, including from many of our adversaries? Did all countries somehow get together and decide to do this? For almost any decision, we can't get a few governments to even agree on small things, much less the whole world. I just don't buy it.
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No, sorry, I don't believe the CDC. They are career politicians, AKA swamp creatures.
 
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