vintage chromoly
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That’s some tin foil hat ****.
That’s some tin foil hat ****.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a national public health institute in the United States. It is a United States federal agency, under the Department of Health and Human Services,[2] and is headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia.[3]Nope, just willfully ignorant.
Awesome!The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a national public health institute in the United States. It is a United States federal agency, under the Department of Health and Human Services,[2] and is headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia.[3]
NUFF SAID!!!
Oh yeah, here is the future head of that SWAMP organization!!!
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CDC Dr. Fauci was wrong he even admitted to it "sort of"
& changed his mind or reversed his opinions several times
over & over again, so did the WHO/UN China & Joe too
we all know the truth about that
What's "wacko nonsense"? It's a FEDERAL AGENCY!!! And about to be led by a transgender WACKO!!!Awesome!
Keep parroting the wacko nonsense you’ve been fed.
It suits you well.
I'm still in line over here waiting for the vaccines for:
- avian flu (1.1 million dead worldwide and 116,000 in the US; no effective vaccine exists)
- swine flu (60.8 million USA cases, 275k hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths - no specific
effective vaccine ever found)
Hell, toss in:
- SARS (775 dead, no effective treatment ever found)
What's common to all of these?
1. No significant mandatory self-quarantining at the time of their rise in the US
2. No mask mandates
3. "Herd immunity" apparently ran them off (since no effective vaccines exist)
4. None are considered significant threats to society now
The differences this time?
Come on, you all are all bright individuals and you've lived/are living during this historic
time, with all the major differences in approach this nation has taken.
You've also seen the havoc wreaked upon our economy, jobs, quality of life, education
system, crime rates, etc.
You've also witnessed historically fast development and delivery to points of service of
a supposed vaccine for this current "mother of all pandemics" - and while I applaud the
Herculean, monumentally unprecendented efforts there...
it also is why I do not personally trust the vaccine and will not be getting it.
Sadly, I don't trust the usual channels of public information to actually give me accurate
data on the pandemic itself nor the supposed "cure", for they have all too many times
proven themselves to have a crippling inability to remain objective.
Me done.
SARS was/is actually much more deadly than Covid. Luckily, it was also less contagious, so quarantining individuals worked to shut it down.I'm still in line over here waiting for the vaccines for:
- avian flu (1.1 million dead worldwide and 116,000 in the US; no effective vaccine exists)
- swine flu (60.8 million USA cases, 275k hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths - no specific
effective vaccine ever found)
Hell, toss in:
- SARS (775 dead, no effective treatment ever found)
What's common to all of these?
1. No significant mandatory self-quarantining at the time of their rise in the US
2. No mask mandates
3. "Herd immunity" apparently ran them off (since no effective vaccines exist)
4. None are considered significant threats to society now
The differences this time?
Come on, you all are all bright individuals and you've lived/are living during this historic
time, with all the major differences in approach this nation has taken.
You've also seen the havoc wreaked upon our economy, jobs, quality of life, education
system, crime rates, etc.
You've also witnessed historically fast development and delivery to points of service of
a supposed vaccine for this current "mother of all pandemics" - and while I applaud the
Herculean, monumentally unprecendented efforts there...
it also is why I do not personally trust the vaccine and will not be getting it.
Sadly, I don't trust the usual channels of public information to actually give me accurate
data on the pandemic itself nor the supposed "cure", for they have all too many times
proven themselves to have a crippling inability to remain objective.
Me done.
Just for your information, sir (paraphrasing the CDC here):SARS was/is actually much more deadly than Covid. Luckily, it was also less contagious, so quarantining individuals worked to shut it down.
There was a lot of work done for a vaccine against SARS. When Covid hit, the SARS vaccine was modified to work against Covid. So just FYI, the Covid vaccine was not developed "from scratch".
Ed, I think we are violently agreeing here!Just for your information, sir (paraphrasing the CDC here):
There is no vaccine for SARS; there was something developed eventually for SARS and it was placed in the US national stockpile.
That vaccine, however, is a prototype and not field-ready as of March 2020.
Clinical isolation and quarantine remain the most effective means to prevent the spread of SARS.
Me still done.
No sir, we are not...Ed, I think we are violently agreeing here!
Yes, there is no approved vaccine for SARS, but there was extensive work done on a (your words) prototype vaccine. That's why it was in the US national stockpile, since there was good belief it could be successfully used if the USA got hit with a lot of SARS cases.
No sir, we are not...
(I don't know how to make this point any clearer, nor will I accept any twisting of this particular
fact to suit anyones' agenda)...
Again, those are not my words, my friend (because obviously I'm not involved in any stage of that world)....
again, I paraphrased CDC's own reports.
Fact remains that there is no vaccine for SARS to date - and they've apparently decided what was "stockpiled"
isn't to be taken further in their studies/path towards becoming a SARS vaccine.
Make of that what you will.
Fact remains, I don't trust any of the numbers of this current pandemic; I don't trust any of the timing of
the release of the virus (and by whom); I don't trust the manner in which it was handled from the feds on down
in this country; and I certainly don't trust any miracle vaccine that set new records for being developed, tested,
whatever in order to show up just in time to save the day.
The history of pandemics, the history of the development of such vaccines and the history of how such
diseases were handled (and subsequently eventually fell off the public scope) ALL tell me not to....
...and at this point, no amount of "persuasion" by anyone will change my mind on that, right or wrong.
So, and for the final time...
Me done.
The 72% was done with a different type of test. So the rating are not apples to apples.72% won’t get it, the others might but not as bad, much less likely to kill you.
Fact remains, I don't trust any of the numbers of this current pandemic; I don't trust any of the timing of
the release of the virus (and by whom); I don't trust the manner in which it was handled from the feds on down
in this country; and I certainly don't trust any miracle vaccine that set new records for being developed, tested,
whatever in order to show up just in time to save the day.
The history of pandemics, the history of the development of such vaccines and the history of how such
diseases were handled (and subsequently eventually fell off the public scope) ALL tell me not to....
...and at this point, no amount of "persuasion" by anyone will change my mind on that, right or wrong.
So, and for the final time...
Me done.
I agree.Please....let's all STOP fighting against each other and slaying friendly dragons. Instead of telling each other that we are wrong, how about we tell each other what we believe to be true, and WHY we believe it. Not rhetoric, truth & facts.
This way we can begin to build our own 'jellyfish' whose tentacles are terminated in unassailable facts. In this way we can throw off the cloak of manufactured fear and begin to right this ship we call America, you remember? The one where all passengers are welcome?