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Who runs 4 drums no booster?

Drum brakes don’t bug me much, but I will admit that single pot master cylinder is an eye opener! Had a customer with a 48 or 49 Plymouth coupe that popped a brake hose, he was an elderly guy and handled her like a dream, cut hard to the right and up a hillside and used the car to slow itself down with the hand brake, I pulled him back down with the hand brake applied to control the roll otherwise he would have got me. Nice old gent , he pinched his line off, filled up the pot and crawled back home and fixed it himself.. he truly loved that car, he never left it set, flat head six and three on the tree. I wound up helping him out with body work later on.. I was concerned about air in the system after that hose popped but he said it was good... he was pretty easy on it all the time .
 
moparedtn said:
Dagnab it...
What is the correct master cylinder on these cars with 4-wheel 11" drums??

Fred came with one of these on him and I've always suspected it's wrong....
and the mushy pedal regardless of bleeding efforts says so, too:
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That's what my '67 came with. When I went to non-power front discs, changed to dual master w 15/16" bore. Great pedal feel, even my granddaughter can push it down, and stops on a dime.
 
My daily driver 63 more door, crew cab /6 Savoy has 4 drums single pot manual brakes. When I'm behind the wheel I keep in mind what I'm driving, stay aware and pay attention. No sleeping behind the wheel.
 
I fully rebuilt the 10" drum brakes all round, rebuilt booster and single master. Then removed booster and went unboosted. The brakes are certainly not great. They work, but don't inspire confidence, fade often on hilly roads and lock easily on panic stops. I'm sure 11" drums would be better than 10", but Disc brakes are head and shoulders better than drums.
 
I'll let you ahead of me. No problem you'll be seeing me from behind anyhow.

I'm doing a 63 Super Stock and I'm intending to keep the single pot, 4 drum brake system on the car. Power disc brakes, dual reservoir take the thrill out of thrill ride.
 
I like the thrill of acceleration, handling, and braking into a corner. I do not not like the felling of brake fade and the OF's of am I going to stop in time or hit something.. Can't wait till the next "Fling" and let Dennis H. Drive my car and see if he still wants them drums..
 
2 Mopars, 10" 4 wheel drum brakes on both. I can lock up all 4 at any time.

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I never understood why someone would spend 10 or 20 thousand dollars upgrading the power in the engine than spend $100 on the brakes.
I seen a guy last week with a beautiful 1961 Ford starliner. He said he spent over 20k installing Ford 427 FE that put out 600hp. He still had the single pod master cyl with drum brakes so he spent a couple hundred bucks on the brakes.
 
toolmanmike said:
2 Mopars, 10" 4 wheel drum brakes on both. I can lock up all 4 at any time.

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That's the problem, locking them up. Cars stop slower once locked up. That rubber, called a tire, melts. Becomes a greasy substance between your car and the road. Anyone can lock up the brakes, it's learning to modulate them and keep then on the edge of "pending" lock up. Discs can do that better and maintain it longer = better stopping. Again, this is not opinion, 20 yrs accident investigation and NHTSA training.
 
diesel_lv said:
That's the problem, locking them up. Cars stop slower once locked up. That rubber, called a tire, melts. Becomes a greasy substance between your car and the road. Anyone can lock up the brakes, it's learning to modulate them and keep then on the edge of "pending" lock up. Discs can do that better and maintain it longer = better stopping. Again, this is not opinion, 20 yrs accident investigation and NHTSA training.
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I don't lock them up at every stop. My point being is the drum brakes on my cars are efficient enough to lock up all 4 at will. Yes, disc brakes are more efficient and less prone to fade but both systems can lock up if you make them as long as the system is in good working order. Now if you have anti-lock we are talking about a different thing.
 
His recommendations are spot on. He helped me solve a problem by recommending a product that wasn't even his own. Pink shirt or not, I took the advice and solved a problem.
 
Jerry Hall said:
His recommendations are spot on. He helped me solve a problem by recommending a product that wasn't even his own. Pink shirt or not, I took the advice and solved a problem.
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I can mail you some the non-functioning junk he sells.. Advocating for the the use inferior technology of Drum brakes shows the guy is a hack!
 
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