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VOTE: Pin or Slider Disc Brakes?

Which do you prefer?

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Mr. PNW

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I’ve seen articles on brake swaps that prefer the PIN style calipers and companies selling slider style repro brackets. If the PIN style is popular, why aren’t those style brackets made.
So vote and tell us which you prefer, and why in the comments.
 
I like pin type. They are just a better design to me. The slider type don't seem as strong & after a while, the caliper hold downs start to rattle/get noisy.
 
Last time I looked (it's been a while), ceramic pads were available for sliders...but not pins.

If that's a consideration.
 
I’ve used sliders for nine years on my E body. If the outer pad is installed correctly by bending the tabs, I’ve had no noise or maintenance issues. Author Tom Condran in his book “Performance Handling For Classic Mopars” describes the Sliders as “simpler in design, easier to work on, more rugged, and far more common in wrecking yards...Stopping power is at least as good, and fade resistance far better.”
 
Installing the sliders can be goofed up if not done correctly, discovered this on a bud's car after he had front disks installed and problems with braking action. Come to find the pads were binding in the calipers and part of the groove the pads ride on were already marred up. The shop evidently didn't bother to deburr the pads or apply any lube. Reckon they thought it wasn't their car so f dat. Having done brake jobs, my slight preference is the pin type.
 
YY1 said:
Last time I looked (it's been a while), ceramic pads were available for sliders...but not pins.

If that's a consideration.
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Hawk makes em, just got a set of ceramics for my 71.
 
Badvert65 said:
I don't think replacement pins are easy to find.
jus sayin....
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Actually, right after I welded up the pitted areas on a set, I found cheap ones both on ebay and at the local Advance.

Grrr.
 
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I did install pin types on my 71 Challenger years ago. The donner car was a 72 Satellite Coupe & they were original to the car. Could have & should have saved THAT car. If I only knew 35 year ago what I know now.
 
Dave6T4 said:
I typed in 1970 Coronet on Rockauto vehicle search to find them. Classic Industries also lists a hardware kit that had all the clips, pins, etc. to do both sides for $190.00. Sounds expensive to me.
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This is confusing, the disc-o-tech article say calipers for 70-72 b-body/70-74 e-body.

So I google 72 calipers kit and found this company selling 70-72 kits for each year.

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/all-years/dodge/challenger/parts/mp50120.html

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/all-years/dodge/challenger/parts/mp50121.html

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/all-years/dodge/challenger/parts/mp50122.html

The 70-71 is $171 and the 72 is $95. What the heck??? I see $40 worth of PINs
 
I have the pin type on my 1964 Polara. They came off a junkyard 1970 Road Runner years ago. I bought rebuilt calipers last fall at CTC, and they came with new pins and hardware. For considerably less than what C.I. is asking for just hardware.
 
I saw an ad on ebay selling the 70 kit which I believe explains why the 70-71 kits are more.

  • Four correct '70 style housing locating pins with 3/8" head! You no longer have to use the incorrect later style pins with the larger head after destroying the original small head pins if they get stuck...
 
13 votes with 70% choosing pin style so far.

I’ve asked Dr Diff (Cass) if they would look into reproducing the brackets.
 
The pin style can get stuck, the heads break off and it takes longer to change pads than the slider type. To each their own.
 
After much discussion back and forth with Cass at Dr. Diff’s I’m going with the slider style brackets and calipers he carries. The flowing response was what swayed me towards slider style. My car has a stock front sway bar.

Subject: Mopar B-body pin style caliper brackets for 11.75 rotors

Hi Lantz,

The common '73 and newer pin calipers don't fit muscle cars when mounted toward the front, due to the hose routing. If you mount them toward the rear, they look like they fit but the banjo bolt becomes a steering stop against the lower control arm.

If you run the fairly rare '70-'72 B/E body pin calipers and flex hoses mounted toward the front, everything will fit. Unfortunately, this leaves '72 and older A bodies and '69 and older B-bodies out of the picture due to sway bar clearance.

If I reproduced pin calipers, I would also produce a pin caliper with a revised flex hose location. Unfortunately, I don't think this would be cost effective.

In addition, I have never seen a functional advantage of the pin design.

Cass
 
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